Michael Gary Scott Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I can't by them being twins why wouldn't Solo or Leia say anything doesn't make sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyLL Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share Posted December 20, 2015 3 minutes ago, Michael Gary Scott said: I can't by them being twins why wouldn't Solo or Leia say anything doesn't make sense 1) Luke's... so Han would not know 2) The hug between Rey & Leia over Han's death when they had never met before implied Leia does know who she is. 3) It's Hollywood.... no requirement it makes sense in this movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 29 minutes ago, Harpospoke said: We didn't clearly see Han die. We clearly assume Han died. ...And then he died off-camera. That's the #1 red flag in movies. This is not something I made up about movies....we all know this. No, the number one red flag is hearing a gunshot and then hearing something that sounds like a body hit the water. That's dying off-screen. When someone visibly gets stabbed, falls into an endless chasm, and then get's blown up, that's dying on screen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 2 hours ago, Phil in the Blank said: Putting aside the issues of Rey being able to match it in a lightsaber duel with Kylo (which for the record, I feel is plausible), My God did I love the light sabre battles in this one. The Prequels just felt like choreographed dancing while TFA just felt so much more....brutal. This Vs So much more brutal, More emotional, more engaging, more betterererer. Also, how many Star Wars lightsaber duels are both duellists actually trying to kill each other? It's likely that Kylo here is tying to get Luke's lightsaber from Fin first and then kill him with it. Then, when he fights Rey he's not trying to kill her but convert her. He over-estimates his own strength after being shot with Chewy's gun (and the movie did build up that it was a pretty powerful gun) and her willingness to listen to him. He also under-estimated her growing strength with the Force. Kylo had already told Snoke that the Force was strong in Rey but that she didn't know it. Clearly growing up alone on Jakku, like Anakin on Tatooine, Rey had developed a part of her innate ability with the Force without actually realising it was the Force. She was a natural pilot and fighter because she could anticipate things and see them a fraction before they happened. Just as Anakin was a good pod racer. Even so, neither of them really held there own against Kylo. They both struggled against him. Half of Rey's fight involved her back tracking and beating back his blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyLL Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share Posted December 20, 2015 1 minute ago, Darth Rallax said: No, the number one red flag is hearing a gunshot and then hearing something that sounds like a body hit the water. That's dying off-screen. When someone visibly gets stabbed, falls into an endless chasm, and then get's blown up, that's dying on screen. Like Ren ( 2 out of 3 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpospoke Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 1 minute ago, Darth Rallax said: No, the number one red flag is hearing a gunshot and then hearing something that sounds like a body hit the water. That's dying off-screen. When someone visibly gets stabbed, falls into an endless chasm, and then get's blown up, that's dying on screen. It's not actually. That's still dying off screen. Not sure how that's debatable. I'm sensing an emotional attachment to the idea that Han died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Darth AndyLL said: I now believe Rey and Poe are twins... Problem with that is we already know a fair bit about Poe's origin from canon material. Rey being a twin doesn't sync up with those details. Edited December 20, 2015 by Dr 3va2an Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 2 minutes ago, Harpospoke said: It's not actually. That's still dying off screen. Not sure how that's debatable. I'm sensing an emotional attachment to the idea that Han died. And I'm sensing an an emotional attachment to a character that you can't let go of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyLL Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share Posted December 20, 2015 4 minutes ago, Dr 3va2an said: Problem with that is we already know a fair bit about Poe's origin from canon material. Rey being a twin doesn't sync up with those details. New cannon? I've never read it ... where can I find it? Is Poe force sensitive in the cannon... I assumed that was why he was a great pilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 3 minutes ago, Harpospoke said: It's not actually. That's still dying off screen. Not sure how that's debatable. I'm sensing an emotional attachment to the idea that Han died. Like Rallax said: we see a lightsaber go through him, followed by falling into a chasm on a planet that explodes. What the hell are you talking about with "emotional attachment"? Are you being dense on purpose? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orestes Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Maybe Han is just pining for the fjords. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I'm thinking Han Solo is dead. Although, I still think Gwyneth Paltrow will reprise her role in the sequel to Se7en. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 You guys I don't think Elvis and Tupac are dead either. I mean I certainly haven't seen the bodies. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Darth AndyLL said: New cannon? I've never read it ... where can I find it? Is Poe force sensitive in the cannon... I assumed that was why he was a great pilot Poe's parents were introduced in this comic miniseries: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Shattered_Empire There is also canon information about him and his family from some junior novels and the Force Awakens Visual Dictionary. He was born about 2 years post-Endor, so he is definitely several years older than Rey. Edited December 20, 2015 by Dr 3va2an Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 12 minutes ago, Darth AndyLL said: 1) Luke's... so Han would not know 2) The hug between Rey & Leia over Han's death when they had never met before implied Leia does know who she is. 3) It's Hollywood.... no requirement it makes sense in this movie. 1) Yikes... and ew. 2) It just implies that they both shared a connection with Han and felt his loss. 3) Well yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Just now, Obi-Wan Telemachos said: 1) Yikes... and ew. Star Wars did twincest before Game of Thrones made it popular 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I enjoy those who still cling to the "Rey is Han and Leia's daughter" theory. Yes, they had a daughter but either A) have no memory of having one or decide to ignore her after abandoning her on a desert planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) 1 minute ago, RichWS said: I enjoy those who still cling to the "Rey is Han and Leia's daughter" theory. Yes, they had a daughter but either A) have no memory of having one or decide to ignore her after abandoning her on a desert planet. Plus if they had a second child, you'd think he or she would have come up at some point during their conversations about Kylo (B)ren. Edited December 20, 2015 by Dr 3va2an Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Never ceases to amaze me how the Internet is packed with those who will hold on to their ridiculous Star Wars theories till death. It's extraordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moviesRus Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 3 minutes ago, RichWS said: I enjoy those who still cling to the "Rey is Han and Leia's daughter" theory. Yes, they had a daughter but either A) have no memory of having one or decide to ignore her after abandoning her on a desert planet. So basically Rey is Casey Affleck and Ben is their Murph! They don't care about her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
