pinocchio Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 What does "Hollywood movies" mean anyway? Not too much. Reliance is an indish company for example that owns 50% of Dreamworks. (Not DWA.) Which means stuff like Cowboys & Aliens, War Horse and so on have been "Bollywood" productions in a way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) American movies. Where the parent company is based means little. Edited March 6, 2012 by lab276 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinocchio Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I would say it means everything. The parent company decides everything and walks away with the profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 That's getting way too specific about things. There's something Leonard Maltin says in, at least, his 1992 movie guide, "Should we consider every Universal film Japanese, now that Universal owned by a Japanese company?", or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinocchio Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 So, what's your definition of an "American" movie in the end? Exterior shots were made in the USA? It had an american director? A US distributor? It was fully financed with US money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 A combination of the majority of the creative team and the studio and production company being American. That kind of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinocchio Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Don't know. The creative team is something you just hire to deliver a specific result. But it's a tricky thing, I agree. Most Americans would say Toyota is a Japanese car despite the fact it was manufactured in the USA and even most money from the value chain remainded there and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentryTrans Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Asian market would be bigger than NA market and European market in future.China film market would be bigger than NA market and European market in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdevidem01 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 India can be a big market in the future.But China is where the real potential really lies. If that 20 film quota were to break then the skies the limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebomb Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 India can be a big market in the future.But China is where the real potential really lies. If that 20 film quota were to break then the skies the limit.In case you didn't know, the quota has been upped to 34 Hollywood films with the recent Dreamworks/China deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 India per capita (2.4 or something like that) is already on the same level or even better than Europe, so I wouldn't expect big things there.It's not the admissions that are increasing so much but the avg. ticket price.A ticket right now costs around $2-2.5. It used to cost less than a dollar 5 years back and in 5 years it will be over $5. With small increases in admission, the total box office may very well triple in the next 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spizzer Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 It's not the admissions that are increasing so much but the avg. ticket price.A ticket right now costs around $2-2.5. It used to cost less than a dollar 5 years back and in 5 years it will be over $5. With small increases in admission, the total box office may very well triple in the next 5 years.Yeah, attendance numbers haven't been going anywhere fast (at least on a micro level, overall attendance seems to be rising yearly) but ticket prices have really been soaring in the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentryTrans Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Western European film market has reached saturation.The Eastern European and Asian film market will keep rapidly increasing in the next decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) In 2-3 years, China+India alone will be bigger than the whole Europe. Edited March 26, 2012 by Fake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentryTrans Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 In 2-3 years, China+India alone will be bigger than the whole Europe.The Western Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinocchio Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Movie markets can't grow with higher ticket prices alone. In China movie ticket prices have reached an insane level. That is just not sustainable long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentryTrans Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 When China could have more than 100,000 screens, the ticket prices might be reasonable at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 (edited) USA had 4400m admissions in 1946 now 1300mUK had 1182m adm. 1950 now 173mItaly had 819m adm. 1950 now 111mGermany had 1116m adm. 1943 now 130mWest Germany had 818m adm. 1950France had 411m adm. 1950 now 215mSowjetunion had about 4000m adm. now Russia(CIS) 165mwhat happened: We became rich, bought TVs and people stayed at homemaybe Asia will develop differently and people will go to the cinema nevertheless Edited April 27, 2012 by Rudolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebomb Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 USA had 4400m admissions in 1946 now 1300mUK had 1182m adm. 1950 now 173mItaly had 819m adm. 1950 now 111mGermany had 1116m adm. 1943 now 130mWest Germany had 818m adm. 1950France had 411m adm. 1950 now 215mSowjetunion had about 4000m adm. now Russia(CIS) 165mwhat happened: We became rich, bought TVs and people stayed at homemaybe Asia will develop differently and people will go to the cinema neverthelessI think admissions have gone down in Asia as well except for maybe China. I think the bigger ticket prices are why we're seeing such big OWs for Hollywood movies now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 China had 29,300m admissions in 1979, still 10,000m in 1992, hit a low 121m in 1998 and has been rising since then. The practical end of old comunism and the start of something new changed the game.Someone posted http://www.china.org.cn/learning_english/2011-04/15/content_22367160.htm with confusing numbers. Is there a second market in China with 2,250m admissions in rural provinces where tickets are very cheap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...