Weekend Estimates : BVS 52.39M | Zootopia 20M | Wedding 11.13M | God's Not Dead 8.1M | Sun Rth - Bvs 12 or 14.2, Zoo 5.3, MBFGW2 2.8, GND2 2

[department store basement]

2 minutes ago, Telemachos said:

 

The DGA does not allow more than one director to be employed on a project. You can make a rare exception if it's a "bona fide team" (i.e., the Hughes brothers, the Wachowskis, the Coens), but since Snyder is well established as a director by himself, that's not gonna happen here.

 

Tom Tykwer did Cloud Atlas with the Wachowskis. I assume Tykwer isn't with the DGA then.

[kayumanggi]

1 minute ago, Bishop54 said:

It wasn't locked as far as I know.

 

It was.

[Nova]

7 minutes ago, Telemachos said:

 

DEADPOOL is small and risky.  

Deadpool is indeed small but Deadpool sure feels big in that hand 

[Nova]

1 minute ago, MrPink said:

 

So there's a chance...

There's always a chance. 

[Chewy]

Just now, Telemachos said:

 

The DGA does not allow more than one director to be employed on a project. You can make a rare exception if it's a "bona fide team" (i.e., the Hughes brothers, the Wachowskis, the Coens), but since Snyder is well established as a director by himself, that's not gonna happen here.

 

And even if it were possible and unions didn't exist...

 

Why would Snyder accept being told he needs "help" doing the job he was originally hired for?

Why would another director want to "help" on a film where they'll have to compromise, not just on a big picture level but at every turn?

If WB felt a change was necessary why wouldn't they just replace him?

etc

 

Just... bizarre

[kayumanggi]

While the projected total might be disappointing based on hype and expectation, I think it would be more than enough to start the DC universe. The question is, where will WB go from here?

 

Also, will they be attending SDCC? That would be very awkward imo. lol

[Cookson]

Would anyone be against them shooting JL, holding onto the completed film for a few years and just get a Aquaman and Flash movie out before the 1st Justice League? It would certainly build those characters up rather than throwing them in Justice League literally out of nowhere.

[Ethan Hunt]

4 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:

 

And ZOOTOPIA. That movie might outgross BVS in the end. No one saw that coming.

Excuse me but I did

[Dementeleus]

2 minutes ago, department store basement said:

 

Tom Tykwer did Cloud Atlas with the Wachowskis. I assume Tykwer isn't with the DGA then.

 

CLOUD ATLAS was made overseas by a non-DGA signatory company.

[MrPink]

1 minute ago, Nova said:

There's always a chance. 

 

I will stop at nothing to make him my bae

[Chewy]

Just now, Cookson said:

Would anyone be against them shooting JL, holding onto the completed film for a few years and just get a Aquaman and Flash movie out before the 1st Justice League? It would certainly build those characters up rather than throwing them in Justice League literally out of nowhere.

 

I am pretty sure the WB investors would be against them dropping a half bill with no return for 5 years

[kayumanggi]

3 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

I was predicting 440 for BVS when i made that club

 

I was also talking about worldwide numbers.

[department store basement]

1 minute ago, Cookson said:

Would anyone be against them shooting JL, holding onto the completed film for a few years and just get a Aquaman and Flash movie out before the 1st Justice League? It would certainly build those characters up rather than throwing them in Justice League literally out of nowhere.

 

I would if JL wasn't starting shooting so soon.

[Bishop54]

Just now, Ethan Hunt said:

Excuse me but I did

Well you're a prodigy Ethan. 

[druv10]

4 minutes ago, Bishop54 said:

It wasn't locked as far as I know.

It was locked for half hr, mostly for same shit that's been going on. I really feel for the mods, having to deal with this nonsense.

[Ethan Hunt]

Just now, Bishop54 said:

Well you're a prodigy Ethan. 

Not really. I just had a really low end prediction for BvS. Think I said 310M or something.

[jse]

So going by F7 drops, this is headed for 48.5M? Sub-50M, 70% drop very much in the cards.

 

If we are generous and give this what F7 earned after its 2nd weekend, its headed for just under $360M.

 

Even if we assume Mr. Pool getting 40% weekly drops (drops won't be that bad), that's headed for over $362M.

 

Wade over Trinity looking pretty good right about now.

[filmscholar]

Disastrious Drop.  No spinning it.   With all that said this movie wasn't for all the marbles.  It's point was to be a Sequel to "Man Of Steel", Reboot Batman and Introduce the Justice League to set off the universe.   If that was the goal then I felt it did that.  Now yes the critical response is obviously shaky and but the audience response seems to be probably mixed.  When you look at DC Comic Adaptiation it's still going to rank inside the Top 5 when this is all said and done:

 

1	The Dark Knight	WB	$533,345,358	4,366	$158,411,483	4,366	7/18/08
2	The Dark Knight Rises	WB	$448,139,099	4,404	$160,887,295	4,404	7/20/12
3	Man of Steel	WB	$291,045,518	4,207	$116,619,362	4,207	6/14/13
4	Batman	WB	$251,188,924	2,201	$40,489,746	2,194	6/23/89
5	Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice	WB	$224,422,793	4,256	$166,007,347	4,242	3/25/16
6	Batman Begins	WB	$205,343,774	3,858	$48,745,440	3,858	6/15/05
7	Superman Returns	WB	$200,081,192	4,065	$52,535,096	4,065	6/28/06
8	Batman Forever	WB	$184,031,112	2,893	$52,784,433	2,842	6/16/95
9	Batman Returns	WB	$162,831,698	2,644	$45,687,711	2,644	6/19/92
10	Superman	WB	$134,218,018	817	$7,465,343	508	12/15/78
11	Green Lantern	WB	$116,601,172	3,816	$53,174,303	3,816	6/17/11
12	Superman II	WB	$108,185,706	1,878	$14,100,523	1,397	6/19/81
13	Watchmen	WB	$107,509,799	3,611	$55,214,334	3,611	3/6/09
14	Batman and Robin	WB	$107,325,195	2,942	$42,872,605	2,934	6/20/97
15	Red	Sum.	$90,380,162	3,349	$21,761,408	3,255	10/15/10
16	Constantine	WB	$75,976,178	3,006	$29,769,098	3,006	2/18/05
17	V for Vendetta	WB	$70,511,035	3,365	$25,642,340	3,365	3/17/06
18	Superman III	WB	$59,950,623	1,763	$13,352,357	1,759	6/17/83
19	Red 2	LG/S	$53,262,560	3,016	$18,048,422	3,016	7/19/13
20	Catwoman	WB	$40,202,379	3,117	$16,728,411	3,117	7/23/04

 

 

Even adjusted for inflation BatsVSupes will end up pretty high on the overall list for not just DC but Comics Adaptations in general.  I think it does need to make a Billion though and it's pass 500 Million in a week but the legs have to hold better than this drops for it to make it. 

[MyMovieCanBeatUpYourMovie]

2 minutes ago, Telemachos said:

 

The DCEU's success or failure has little to no impact on WB (or any other studio) making more giant tentpoles in the future.

 

I understand why (there's no particular need for anyone to know this sort of crap unless you have to), but there's a huge disconnect here in terms of understanding how basic crew members get work (or don't).

 

I'm guessing it's not really something you would know unless you were working on films or know people who are.  Are you saying that even if the worst happens, and WB cancels the entire slate of DCEU films tomorrow, there will be just as many jobs for crew on future films regardless, but that delaying JL two weeks before shooting means many of those crewmembers will by necessity be out of work for a while?

 

So the situation we're put in as fans is, root for people to be out of work in the short term so that we potentially get a film we like better in the long term.  

 

I guess the only solace there is that our wishes, ugly or not, don't have any bearing on that outcome.  Snyder and everyone else making the creative decisions bear the burden and responsibility for the fallout of their choices, not those of us commenting from the peanut gallery, who are in the end rooting to get films we like.

[grey ghost]

11 minutes ago, Daniel Dylan Davis said:

 

Lol, I don't think the general audiences really cares about directors in general. 

 

Nolan and Cameron are the only one's who can open a movie to 50+ m just by publicizing they're the ones directing.

 

Bay? Nope

 

Tarantino? Nope

 

JJ? Nope.

 

Not even Spielberg has that pull anymore.