Black Widow | July 9 2021 | ScarJo secures the bag from Disney

[charlie Jatinder]

4 hours ago, RRA said:

Let’s remember basic negotiations: you want that one loaf of bread? You start out demanding the whole bakery then negotiate down from there.

Eh. Terrible negotiations. If you demand whole bakery get half of it atleast.

 

[Legion Again]

Demand two bakeries, get the whole bakery 

[Darth Lehnsherr]

Or be Feige and be so in-disposable you bypass your management and speak to the direct boss to get all control or you quit. 

[Krissykins]

50 minutes ago, Darth Lehnsherr said:

Or be Feige and be so in-disposable you bypass your management and speak to the direct boss to get all control or you quit. 

Maybe Feige will be more involved in talent negotiations going forward to avoid this happening again to someone else. 

[Legion Again]

Just now, Krissykins said:

Maybe Feige will be more involved in talent negotiations going forward to avoid this happening again to someone else. 

Well, this was caused by a one in a century pandemic. I certainly hope there isn’t much risk of a similar incident, regardless of Feige!

[Krissykins]

8 minutes ago, Legion of the Ten Crores said:

Well, this was caused by a one in a century pandemic. I certainly hope there isn’t much risk of a similar incident, regardless of Feige!

Hopefully, although decisions to switch films to streaming could become the norm going forward. They’ll have to ensure there is something clearer in place in contracts. 
 

We’ll see if Disney learn from this fuck up/embarrassment. 

[JWR]

Hopefully, this has been a learning experience for Chapek.

[AJG]

It was a funny lawsuit between the super rich and a large corporation. It wasn’t nasty or intense.

 

Her PR people and the media spun this into David v Goliath story and a women’s rights case. People ate it up before the truth of the matter slowly trickled down: someone that got paid a crap ton to play a superhero, wanted more money, and got it. 
 

This had some of the most insane media coverage for any matter this year. Now that the case is settled, and they can’t frame it as anything other than the rich getting richer, it isn’t trending at all. Embarrassing and shameful.
 

[RRA]

7 minutes ago, AJG said:

It was a funny lawsuit between the super rich and a large corporation. It wasn’t nasty or intense.

 

Her PR people and the media spun this into David v Goliath story and a women’s rights case. People ate it up before the truth of the matter slowly trickled down: someone that got paid a crap ton to play a superhero, wanted more money, and got it. 
 

This had some of the most insane media coverage for any matter this year. Now that the case is settled, and they can’t frame it as anything other than the rich getting richer, it isn’t trending at all. Embarrassing and shameful.
 

 

I feel old when people weigh the worth of news on whether they trend or not. 

 

Anyway by now you should know that in this current world we live in, anything Marvel related gets coverage and then some. Would Matt Damon suing Universal over a Jason Bourne sequel payout get as much scrutiny? Probably not.  

[Krissykins]

23 minutes ago, AJG said:

It was a funny lawsuit between the super rich and a large corporation. It wasn’t nasty or intense.

 

Her PR people and the media spun this into David v Goliath story and a women’s rights case. People ate it up before the truth of the matter slowly trickled down: someone that got paid a crap ton to play a superhero, wanted more money, and got it. 
 

This had some of the most insane media coverage for any matter this year. Now that the case is settled, and they can’t frame it as anything other than the rich getting richer, it isn’t trending at all. Embarrassing and shameful.
 

It was certainly at the top of Twitter when I woke up this morning. 
 

Congratulations to Scar-Jo. The right party won. 

[Barnack]

5 hours ago, Krissykins said:

Maybe Feige will be more involved in talent negotiations going forward to avoid this happening again to someone else. 

 

I am not sure how much the talent negotiations was the issue here (it is not like not having a clear pandemic or other event that changed the theatrical business in the short term is to blame), but in 2017 that was port Perlmutter, he was not only the main producer (the only one listed with a producer credit that how powerful he is) on that movie and also the president of Marvel studio.

 

If he was not fully involved in the top talent negotiations maybe he will.

 

But I could see it the complete way around, maybe Disney will get more involved and remove power from Marvel in that regard to not have a surprise like that again. A bit like I am sure Sony started to get involved in their subsidiary branch talent compensation after the American Hustle situation that their Columbia branch and Annapurna deals created a strange situation for them (and it is not like the coverage when it happen will include those nuance, end of the day people will look at the big owner regardless of how much involved they were).

 

  

2 hours ago, AJG said:

 

Her PR people and the media spun this into David v Goliath story and a women’s rights case.

 

I would have thought future of theatrical going on, Tom Cruise fighting for access to Dvd revenue that opened the door for the rest round 2. That assume that struggle happened to each innovation in the industry and a big name had to be the first.

Edited October 1, 2021 by Barnack

[Ozymandias]

8 hours ago, AJG said:

It was a funny lawsuit between the super rich and a large corporation. It wasn’t nasty or intense.

 

Her PR people and the media spun this into David v Goliath story and a women’s rights case. People ate it up before the truth of the matter slowly trickled down: someone that got paid a crap ton to play a superhero, wanted more money, and got it. 
 

This had some of the most insane media coverage for any matter this year. Now that the case is settled, and they can’t frame it as anything other than the rich getting richer, it isn’t trending at all. Embarrassing and shameful.
 

 

Its especially egregious in the middle of a once per century pandemic that has killed 700k in the states, disabled an untold number with Long Covid, and upended countless more financially.  You got people sleeping under every bridge in California and most of the country can't afford decent health care in this decrepit hellscape.  But nevermind all that, lets all get on twitter and hashtag #JusticeForScarJo and get her more money on top of the 20 million she got for a single movie because people weren't going to the movies like they once were so they made it stream-able.  America has always had an unhealthy and problematic relationship with celebrity worship.

 

[JWR]

10 hours ago, Ozymandias said:

 

Its especially egregious in the middle of a once per century pandemic that has killed 700k in the states, disabled an untold number with Long Covid, and upended countless more financially.  You got people sleeping under every bridge in California and most of the country can't afford decent health care in this decrepit hellscape.  But nevermind all that, lets all get on twitter and hashtag #JusticeForScarJo and get her more money on top of the 20 million she got for a single movie because people weren't going to the movies like they once were so they made it stream-able.  America has always had an unhealthy and problematic relationship with celebrity worship.

 

 

You don't have to stan Scarlett Johansson to be against a company screwing over its talent and going against their contractual agreements. 

[Barnack]

19 hours ago, Ozymandias said:

But nevermind all that, lets all get on twitter and hashtag #JusticeForScarJo and get her more money on top of the 20 million she got for a single movie because people weren't going to the movies like they once were so they made it stream-able. 

 

If you think that it actually did anything it make sense, near 0 effort, incredible small result can be more rational than trying anything to do with the other problem you list, for many of them, big effort would give 0 result.

[MCKillswitch123]

12 hours ago, JWR said:

 

You don't have to stan Scarlett Johansson to be against a company screwing over its talent and going against their contractual agreements. 

 

This.

 

Since when the fuck does it have to be compared to the suffering of millions around the world, hundreds of thousands in the States alone, to be considered a bad thing? Nothing compared with the pain that COVID caused. That being said, you can still acknowledge that Disney fucked Scarlett over and they're douches for it. Simple as that.

[JWR]

35 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

 

This.

 

Since when the fuck does it have to be compared to the suffering of millions around the world, hundreds of thousands in the States alone, to be considered a bad thing? Nothing compared with the pain that COVID caused. That being said, you can still acknowledge that Disney fucked Scarlett over and they're douches for it. Simple as that.

 

It's also about the bigger picture. If they can do this to one of their leading actresses, they can get away with it more easily with the rest of their talent.

[Krissykins]

Watched this on 4K steelbook tonight, still love it. 
 

“Clearly I’m injured” at the end always makes me laugh with Milena hobbling around. The whole Budapest scene with Natasha and Yelena is great, some of the stunts look agony. 

[dudalb]

On 9/30/2021 at 9:58 PM, WittyUsername said:

The idea that ScarJo and Disney are apparently going to just bury the hatchet and continue working together after that nasty debacle is crazy to me. 

Welcome to Hollywood. It happens all the time.

I suspected a lot of the heat between Scarjo and Disney was just for display; there is always a lot of theatrics in big time Showbiz lawsuits.

As for the bargaining down, that is what happens in just about every lawsuit.You always sue for a lot more then you are willing to settler for. In end, a lot of the bargaining in hundred of millions of dollars business deals is not much different then the haggling that goes on in a garage sale.

 

But the main impact this suite will have is this. Every future contract with a star will include a share of the streaming money. Just surprised more stars did not see streaming being a major factor coming.

 

DIsney has a strong case when it comes to pure law,and Scarjo has a pretty weak one in terms of pure law, , but the optics were so bad for Disney they had no choice but to cough up.

But with the 40 Million that Scarjo got she is set up for life and will not have to do a  paycheck movie again after Tower of Terror.

[dudalb]

On 10/2/2021 at 3:21 PM, JWR said:

 

It's also about the bigger picture. If they can do this to one of their leading actresses, they can get away with it more easily with the rest of their talent.

And almost all of Hollywood would have turned on The Mouse. Even Disney could not have afforded that.

To a degree I have to blame whoever Scarjo's lawyer was for not including a streamng clause in her contract. That was quite a omission,since streaming becoming a major money making source has been in the cards for over a decase.

[AJG]

They tried cut the best scene of the movie out of the movie and Kevin Fiege said no. You can’t tell me Marvel won’t fall apart without him.Disney are gonna have to wrap Feige up in bubblewrap and chauffeur him everywhere like how Nintendo does Shigeru Miyamoto.