The Nutcracker and the Four Realms | Nov 2 2018 | Lasse Hallstrom

[MrGlass2]

After all the doom and gloom it looks like it will do alright...

 

On 8/14/2018 at 6:51 AM, MrGlass2 said:

Not saying that this will get anywhere near BatB, but it would still be surprising if it couldn't reach $100M DOM.

[filmlover]

Pans from Variety, Hollywood Reporter, Indiewire, and The Wrap.

[Hiccup23]

[filmlover]

Begins with 32% on RT.

[Morieris]

 

[Zakiyyah6]

100mil domestic won't mean anything if it flops overseas. The bad reviews are expected. Disney were clearly hiding the film the same way they were hiding A Wrinkle in Time earlier this year.

[Frozen]

26% now on RT. 

[filmlover]

I had a faint memory of there being a big-budget Nutcracker flop with Elle Fanning several years ago so I looked it up and apparently Richard E. Grant was in that one too?! Stay away from Nutcracker adaptations, Richard.

[KeepItU25071906]

23 minutes ago, Zakiyyah6 said:

100mil domestic won't mean anything if it flops overseas. The bad reviews are expected. Disney were clearly hiding the film the same way they were hiding A Wrinkle in Time earlier this year.

I don't care about this movie but, anyway, I hope this doesn't kill Mackenzie Foy career.

[Eric Atreides]

1 hour ago, filmlover said:

Begins with 32% on RT.

You still gonna support my club though, right?

[Napoleon]

Critics Consensus: Lacking a transporting yuletide story or dazzling dance routines, The Nutcracker and the Four Realms is a hollow holiday confection that's lovely to look at - and easy to forget.

[Zakiyyah6]

1 hour ago, KeepItU25071906 said:

I don't care about this movie but, anyway, I hope this doesn't kill Mackenzie Foy career.

It won't. She's a teenager. Her career outside of child actordom is just getting started. Maybe it will fail but this film won't be the reason why.

Edited November 1, 2018 by Zakiyyah6

[filmlover]

40 minutes ago, CoolEric258 said:

You still gonna support my club though, right?

lol I was kinda contemplating seeing this because I love Disney and Christmas (especially together!) but nope, not now.

 

This is probably headed for the same fate as Alice Through the Looking Glass. Disney will have no problem sweeping this one under a rug as if it never happened.

[John Marston]

so this year, Disney could have three megabombs. 

[snarkmachine]

5 hours ago, KeepItU25071906 said:

I don't care about this movie but, anyway, I hope this doesn't kill Mackenzie Foy career.

She’s getting some nice ink regardless. THR said she was the best thing about the movie. 

 

I can see her snatching up all the ingenue roles Elle Fanning is too old for. 

[fmpro]

Do we know a budget for this?

[MagnarTheGreat]

Rotten Tomatoes Disney comparisons (2015-present)

 

Disney movie (2015-2018)	RT Critics %	RT Critics Rating	RT User %	RT User Ratings	User minus Critics %	User minus Critics	Cinemascore
Disney’s Christopher Robin	71%	6.1	86%	8.6	15%	2.5	A
Ant-Man and the Wasp	88%	6.9	79%	7.8	-9%	0.9	A-
Incredibles 2	94%	7.9	87%	8.4	-7%	0.5	A+
Solo: A Star Wars Story	70%	6.3	64%	7.0	-6%	0.7	A-
Avengers: Infinity War	84%	7.5	91%	9.0	7%	1.5	A
A Wrinkle In Time	41%	5.2	28%	4.6	-13%	-0.6	B
Black Panther	97%	8.2	79%	8.2	-18%	0.0	A+
Star Wars: The Last Jedi	91%	8.1	45%	5.8	-46%	-2.3	A
Coco	97%	8.2	94%	9.2	-3%	1.0	A+
Thor: Ragnarok	92%	7.5	87%	8.4	-5%	0.9	A
Cars 3	68%	6.0	70%	7.4	2%	1.4	A
PotC: Dead Men Tell No Tales	30%	4.7	61%	7.0	31%	2.3	A-
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2	83%	7.2	88%	8.4	5%	1.2	A
Born in China	83%	7.0	74%	7.6	-9%	0.6	A-
Beauty and the Beast (2017)	70%	6.7	81%	8.0	11%	1.3	A
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story	85%	7.5	87%	8.4	2%	0.9	A
Moana	96%	7.9	89%	8.4	-7%	0.5	A
Doctor Strange	89%	7.3	86%	8.2	-3%	0.9	A
Queen of Katwe	93%	7.4	87%	8.2	-6%	0.8	A+
The Light Between Oceans	59%	6.2	61%	7.0	2%	0.8	B+
Pete's Dragon (2016)	88%	7.3	72%	7.4	-16%	0.1	A
The BFG	75%	6.8	57%	6.8	-18%	0.0	A-
Finding Dory	94%	7.6	84%	8.2	-10%	0.6	A
Alice Through the Looking Glass	29%	4.6	49%	6.4	20%	1.8	A-
Captain America: Civil War	91%	7.7	89%	8.6	-2%	0.9	A
The Jungle Book (2016)	95%	7.7	86%	8.2	-9%	0.5	A
Zootopia	98%	8.1	92%	8.8	-6%	0.7	A
The Finest Hours	64%	6.0	66%	7.2	2%	1.2	A-
Star Wars: The Force Awakens	93%	8.2	88%	8.6	-5%	0.4	A
The Good Dinosaur	76%	6.5	65%	7.2	-11%	0.7	A
Bridge of Spies	91%	7.7	87%	8.0	-4%	0.3	A
Ant-Man	82%	6.8	86%	8.0	4%	1.2	A
Inside Out	98%	8.9	89%	8.6	-9%	-0.3	A
Tomorrowland	50%	5.9	49%	6.6	-1%	0.7	B
Avengers: Age of Ultron	75%	6.7	83%	8.2	8%	1.5	A
Monkey Kingdom	94%	7.3	76%	7.8	-18%	0.5	A-
Cinderella (2015)	84%	7.1	78%	7.8	-6%	0.7	A
McFarland, USA	80%	6.7	88%	8.4	8%	1.7	A
Strange Magic	17%	3.9	51%	6.6	34%	2.7	B-
average (all)	78%	7.0	76%	7.8	-2%	0.8	A
average (Marvel Studios)	87%	7.3	85%	8.3	-1%	1.0	A
average (Lucasfilm)	71%	6.8	67%	7.3	-4%	0.5	A-
average (Disney Animation Studios)	97%	8.0	91%	8.6	-7%	0.6	A
average (Pixar)	88%	7.5	82%	8.2	-6%	0.7	A
average (other)	70%	6.5	70%	7.4	-1%	0.9	A-
% of fresh (>=60%) rated films	85% (33/39)		85% (33/39)
Data current as of early May 2018; eight newest movies data current as of October 29, 2018

I don't care about Cinemascore ('next time you see a film got a certain CinemaScore, keep in mind that it’s not a measure of the film’s quality or even what audiences as a whole think about a movie. It’s a measure of marketing, and how well expectations lined up with the finished feature.') just including it to get across the point that everything is graded on such a curve. Very few movies have been given a failing grade (F).

Edited November 2, 2018 by MagnarTheGreat
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[AndyK]

Just goes to show how useless Cinemascore is as a measure of anything.

[MrGamer]

16 hours ago, filmlover said:

I had a faint memory of there being a big-budget Nutcracker flop with Elle Fanning several years ago so I looked it up and apparently Richard E. Grant was in that one too?! Stay away from Nutcracker adaptations, Richard.

That was the one with John Tuturro as the Rat King and the rats were Fascists. Even had a scene where the rats were burning toys, complete with Holocaust-like imagery.

[Eric Atreides]

2 minutes ago, MrGamer said:

That was the one with John Tuturro as the Rat King and the rats were Fascists. Even had a scene where the rats were burning toys, complete with Holocaust-like imagery.

Also had Nathan Lane as Albert Einstein, and this horrifying CG abomination as the titular Nutcracker.