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Multiple Domestic Crowns? Pretty Tough Task....(The Last Jedi makes more history)

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3 minutes ago, RandomJC said:

How does one define the Young Adult genre?

 

The name was coined from the book genre that targets older teens.

 

Recently it has become a movie genre for YA book adaptations like The Hunger Games, Maze Runner, Divergent and Harry Potter.

 

Some want to group in Star Wars cause it has teenage protagonist sometimes. But it's really supposed to apply to books that TARGET teens or the adapations of those books.

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3 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

 

The name was coined from the book genre that targets older teens.

 

Recently it has become a movie genre for YA book adaptations like The Hunger Games, Maze Runner, Divergent and Harry Potter.

 

Some want to group in Star Wars cause it has teenage protagonist sometimes. But it's really supposed to apply to books that TARGET teens or the adapations of those books.

 

I'll agree to those, except Potter. Potter's a kid's book. It's sold in the Kids section. Star Wars is a kids movie, that relies on adult children. :ph34r:

 

Edit: And don't tell me it's not a kid's book, I've read all 7. It gets dark, so? Lots of kids book get dark.

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On 5/13/2016 at 4:57 PM, Dark 33Legend of the Sith said:

I don't want this thread to be a big argument that has been litigated a million times on whether Sniper is 2014 or 15. It was released in theatres in 2014 so that is what I went with.

 

Posted this about 7 months ago.  I'm sure it will be required every once in a while.

 

American Sniper was a 2014 release and grossed more in its entire domestic run than the 2014 release The Hunger Games MJ I.  The Hunger Games franchise only yearly crown was in 2013.

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SW isn't a kids flim series.

SW isn't a YA film series.

SW is a family film series.

 

As in the old timey definition of "appeal to all ages" label that used to be the hallmark of a large segment of entertainment for decades.

 

It's just that entertainment has gotten so fragmented and media aimed at families as so fallen out of favor, that it's strange to see a throwback like TFA (or SW for that matter).

 

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Now R1?  That might be a different kettle of fish, if the reports about it being a war movie really are accurate. Different enough that it could shed it's familiy film monkier. But that's a debate for, oh, about four days from now or so. ;)

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On 13/05/2016 at 10:16 PM, Dark 33Legend of the Sith said:

This may seem like a strange topic and I apologize if it has already been discussed before, but I've thought about this a few times the last few years.  I find it kind've amazing and interesting how with all of these powerful mega-franchises out there, it is EXTREMELY difficult for any franchise to be the DOMESTIC box office champion in MULTIPLE years.

 

Since 1970, only 4 franchises have won the domestic crown more than once:

 

Star Wars: 6 times- 1977, 1980, 1983, 1999, 2005, 2015

(3rd in 02)

 

Batman: 2 times- 1989, 2008

(3rd in 92, 2nd in 95, 12th in 97, 8th in 05, 2nd in 12)

 

Toy Story: 2 times- 1995, 2010

(3rd in 99)

 

Harry Potter: 2 times- 2001, 2011

(4th in 02, 6th in 04, 3rd in 05, 5th in 07, 3rd in 09, 5th in 10)

 

Spider-Man: 2002, 2007

(2nd in 04, 7th in 12, 12th in 14)

 

Look at all the behemoth franchises that have won only 1 year:

The Godfather: 1st in 1972 (Well short in 74 and 90)

The Exorcist: 1st in 1973 (23rd in 77, 48th in 90, 72nd in 04)

Jaws: 1st in 1975  (3rd in 78, 15th in 83, 54th in 87))

Rocky: 1st in 1976 (4th in 82, 3rd in 85, well back in other years)

Indiana Jones: 1st in 1981 (3rd in 84, 2nd in 89, 3rd in 08)

Back to the Future: 1st in 1985 (6th in 89, 11th in 90)

Home Alone: 1st in 1990 (2nd in 1992)

Terminator: 1st in 1992 (21st in 84, 8th in 03, 23rd in 09, 32nd in 84)

Jurassic Park: 1st in 1993 (3rd in 97, 9th in 01, 2nd in 15 if you count JW)

The Lord of the Rings: 1st in 2003 (2nd in 01, 2nd in 02, 5th in 12,  8th in 13, 6th in 14)

Shrek: Won in 2004 (3rd in 01, 2nd in 07, 8th in 10)

Pirates of the Caribbean: Won in 2006 (3rd in 03, 4th in 07, 5th in 11)

Marvel Phase 2:  Won in 2012 (2nd in 08, 3rd in 10, 2nd in 13, 3rd and 4th in 14, 3rd in 15)

The Hunger Games: Won in 2013 (3rd in 12, 2nd in 14, 7th in 15)

 

These franchises has never won a domestic crown:

Transformers (3rd in 07, 2nd in 09, 2nd in 11, 7th in 14)

Twilight (7th in 08, 4th in 09, 4th in 10, 3rd in 11, 6th in 12)

Superman (2nd in 78, 3rd in 81, 12th in 83, 69th in 87, 6th in 06, 5th in 13, ?? in 16)

Beverly Hills Cop (2nd in 84, 3rd in 87)

Lethan Weapon (9th in 87, 3rd in 89, 4th in 92, 11th in 98)

Mission Impossible (3rd in 96, 3rd in 00, 14th in 06, 7th in 11, 11th in 15)

X-Men (8th in 00, 6th in 03, 4th in 06, 13th in 09, 9th in 14)

The Matrix (5th in 99, 4th and 9th in 03)

Star Trek (4th in 79, 6th in 82, 9th in 84, 5th in 86, 15th in 91, 7th in 09, 11th in 13, ? in 16)

Despicable Me (7th in 10, 4th in 13, 6th in 15)

Fast and Furious (14th in 01, 15th in 03, 46th in 06, 17th in 09, 6th in 11, 9th in 13, 5th in 15)

 

I understand some of you may find this useless info, but I find it interesting.  You would think there would be more multiple winners. It just shows how tough it is to maintain elite level success.  It also show how surprises can thwart some pretty big franchises (American Sniper and Avatar come to mind).

 

It will be interesting to see what franchises can join what has become an elite and rare box office club. Have any you followed this type of thing?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Beverly Hills Cop was number 1 in '84 not Ghostbusters.

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1 hour ago, RandomJC said:

 

I'll agree to those, except Potter. Potter's a kid's book. It's sold in the Kids section. Star Wars is a kids movie, that relies on adult children. :ph34r:

 

Edit: And don't tell me it's not a kid's book, I've read all 7. It gets dark, so? Lots of kids book get dark.

 

A movie (The Force Awakens) doesn't make almost one billion domestic from just "adult children" or fanboys. :qotd:

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1 hour ago, water said:

to be quite honest even if american sniper was released in the middle of 2014 i would still pretend it didn't exist because i hate it that much-- it's military propaganda, not a film

 

Not to get off topic but how do you figure? It was a great movie about a true American hero. Can we not celebrate those anymore? He was the greatest sniper of all time (outside of Gears of War, where I'm the greatest sniper of all time! Lol jk). That's cool if you didn't like the movie I was just wondering if there was some other reason besides just finding it to be pro American military. I feel like there's a whole segment of liberals now who have fallen so far off the bandwagon that they don't even support our troops anymore and it has become uncool to be patriotic. I'll never understand that. 

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1 hour ago, Porthos said:

SW isn't a kids flim series.

SW isn't a YA film series.

SW is a family film series.

 

As in the old timey definition of "appeal to all ages" label that used to be the hallmark of a large segment of entertainment for decades.

 

It's just that entertainment has gotten so fragmented and media aimed at families as so fallen out of favor, that it's strange to see a throwback like TFA (or SW for that matter).

 

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Now R1?  That might be a different kettle of fish, if the reports about it being a war movie really are accurate. Different enough that it could shed it's familiy film monkier. But that's a debate for, oh, about four days from now or so. ;)

 

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14 minutes ago, Grand Moff Tele said:

 

(further derailment)

 

American sniper. Pretty sure there are Finnish, Soviet (and German?) snipers with more confirmed kills, all during WWII.

But do those snipers have their own movies getting released in steelbook editions?

 

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