It's A Rotten Summer

[edmkh]

15 hours ago, UrosepsisFace said:

 

Sorry, I don't mean they are poor for what they are meant to do. I see TCJ2, Shallows, and Purge as major successes. Most horror films are because they cost almost no money to make. However, in terms of sustaining the whole industry, the rare rated R film that can pass 50 million and the rarer one that can get past 100 million isn't enough sustenance for these studios, imo. Those films are doing very very very well and congrats to all those behind them. Those movies, however, probably won't be enough if tentpoles keep failing. In other words, all the movies that were MEANT to make major income failed to do in great satisfaction. All the movies that didn't have such expectations were able to make more money than their budgets. RT%age correlates.

 

summary: movies meant to make limited amount = good RT score = made okay money & movies meant to make a ton of money = low RT score = didn't make enough money to be sustainable

 

 

 

I have a question, why cant a horror movie now at this day be a huge tentpole movie? For example Jaws did  $260,000,000

Have been any horror movies as successful and hige at the box office as Jaws and The Exorcist?. I know they have been huge successfully horror movies at the box office but have been any other horror movie as successfully as Jaws and The Exorcist ( $193,000,000 ) levels? and if the answer is not then my question is why? Why cant an horror movie today be a tentpole movie and do huge blockbusters level number?

Sorry for my bad english.

Edited July 2, 2016 by edmkh

[kowhite]

3 hours ago, BKB IS CAPTAIN AMERICA said:

 

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Hmm ok you got a point.

[trifle]

2 hours ago, edmkh said:

 

I have a question, why cant a horror movie now at this day be a huge tentpole movie? For example Jaws did  $260,000,000

Have been any horror movies as successful and hige at the box office as Jaws and The Exorcist?. I know they have been huge successfully horror movies at the box office but have been any other horror movie as successfully as Jaws and The Exorcist ( $193,000,000 ) levels? and if the answer is not then my question is why? Why cant an horror movie today be a tentpole movie and do huge blockbusters level number?

Sorry for my bad english.

 

It has to have a good story and other tent pole - like features.  I wouldn't have even considered Jaws a horror story, more a disaster story, until you categorized it as that.  I guess Exorcist was a horror story, in a sense, but its casting, budget and screenplay were tent pole level.   I think the typical horror movie is on a shoe string budget (impacting effects) with no particular cast, and relies on jump-scare techniques. When it is better than that (as in the Conjuring 2) people are surprised. Psycho was another big one, adjusted, which is why it got two sequels and then they later tried a remake.  http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm (It's at 147 of all time, adjusted.)

Edited July 2, 2016 by trifle

[UrosepsisFace]

3 hours ago, edmkh said:

 

I have a question, why cant a horror movie now at this day be a huge tentpole movie? For example Jaws did  $260,000,000

Have been any horror movies as successful and hige at the box office as Jaws and The Exorcist?. I know they have been huge successfully horror movies at the box office but have been any other horror movie as successfully as Jaws and The Exorcist ( $193,000,000 ) levels? and if the answer is not then my question is why? Why cant an horror movie today be a tentpole movie and do huge blockbusters level number?

Sorry for my bad english.

 

Actually, I think a horror movie could break out. With all the super-heroes and cartoons, and being decades from the 80s, horror fans might be starving for a hit, and this summer is showing off horrorish hit after hit. I'm interested to see what Lights Out does because it's rated PG13. Personally, I loved 80s horror for the extreme violence and nudity, but the R certainly limits the population that can watch the movie. 

[DMan7]

I'd love to see a horror movie make 1B WW.

[somebody85]

12 hours ago, Cmasterclay said:

Last summer was pretty awful at this point, too, outside of Mad Max. Hell I would say it was alot worse, when it came to live-action movies. It wasn't until the solid Ant-Man and Trainwreck, and more importantly the awesome MI5/The Gift/Compton trio over the last three weeks that we really got some great movies. This summer hasn't had a Mad Max, but it did have Popstar (favorite movie of the year) and Civil War, along with Nice Guys and Central Intelligence, both of which were fun. I have hopes that Star Trek/Bourne/Sausage Party/The Founder/The Infiltrator/Ghostbusters will boost this summer quality wise (no hope for Suicide Squad, sadly). It's another back loaded summer, maybe. 

Yeah it was but not as bad. Or maybe it was just less blockbusters and sequels.

Let's Compare:
Avengers: Age Of Ultron
Hot Pursuit
Mad Max: Fury Road
Pitch Perfect 2
Tomorrowland
Poltergeist
San Andreas
Aloha
Spy
Insidious: Chapter 3
Entourage
Jurassic World
Dope
Inside Out
Ted 2
Terminator: Genisys
Magic Mike XXL

For Marvel, 2016 wins: Civil War was better then Age Of Ultron - but that also wasn't awful.

For Name Brand Blockbusters: 2015 wins. I thought Jurassic World, San Andreas & Tomorrowland were better then X:Men Apocalypse, Warcraft & Alice Through The Looking Glass

I would say ID: Resurgence and Terminator: Genisys are about as equally awful when judging the reactions from all around.

Mad Max: Fury Road is most likely a lot better then The Legend Of Tarzan

For Horror: 2016 wins. The Conjuring 2 and The Shallows (if you can call it that) are better then anything released in the summer of 2015. The Darkness is as bad as Insidious 3. Poltergeist is as average as The Purge: Election Year.

For Comedy, I think 2015 wins too. Dope & The Nice Guys are about equal.  Spy is better then Central Intelligence. I don't know if I can compare Ted 2 and Popstar.

Now You See Me 2 and Pitch Perfect 2 are about equal in reception. 

Hot Pursuit is one of the worst movies of 2015.
 

For Animation: 2015 wins. Inside Out is better then Finding Dory. But both are good.

I'm not sure what to compare The BFG too in the same time frame.

Overall I enjoyed 2015 more so far though. Hopefully it gets better from here like you think though.

Edited July 3, 2016 by somebody85

[department store basement]

7 hours ago, UrosepsisFace said:

the R certainly limits the population that can watch the movie

 

I thought we stopped using that argument after American Sniper.

[department store basement]

1 hour ago, somebody85 said:

Hot Pursuit is one of the worst movies of 2015.

 

It got a terrible reception from critics but an OK reception from fans. Definitely not one of the least liked.

[department store basement]

1 hour ago, somebody85 said:

Hot Pursuit is one of the worst movies of 2015.

 

It got a terrible reception from critics but an OK reception from fans. Definitely not one of the least liked.

[Gavin Feng]

There were 54 films which earned $20million + at the first half of this year.23 are fresh and 31 are rotten.

 

 

 

Rank	Title	Domestic		Tomatometer	Average Rating	Audience Score
1	Captain America: Civil War	$404,648,388		90%	7.60	91%
2	Deadpool	$363,070,709		84%	6.9	91%
3	The Jungle Book (2016)	$358,834,598		94%	7.70	90%
4	Zootopia	$340,551,819		98%	8.10	94%
5	Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice	$330,360,194		27%	4.90	66%
6	Finding Dory	$330,349,602		94%	7.70	91%
7	Star Wars: The Force Awakens	$284,694,956		92%	8.2	89%
8	The Revenant	$182,765,375		82%	7.9	85%
9	X-Men: Apocalypse	$152,597,455		48%	5.70	72%
10	Kung Fu Panda 3	$143,467,597		86%	6.8	81%
11	The Angry Birds Movie	$105,367,614		43%	4.90	51%
12	The Conjuring 2	$91,433,538		79%	6.60	86%
13	Ride Along 2	$90,862,685		15%	3.8	50%
14	Daddy's Home	$85,672,859		32%	4.9	51%
15	Central Intelligence	$79,437,074		64%	5.60	73%
16	Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows	$78,747,502		37%	4.60	55%
17	Alice Through the Looking Glass	$75,280,329		30%	4.60	56%
18	10 Cloverfield Lane	$72,082,998		90%	7.5	81%
19	The Divergent Series: Allegiant	$66,184,051		13%	4.1	45%
20	The Boss	$63,077,560		22%	4.50	42%
21	London Has Fallen	$62,524,260		25%	3.9	56%
22	Miracles from Heaven	$61,591,986		44%	5	83%
23	My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2	$59,689,605		29%	4.6	59%
24	Independence Day: Resurgence	$56,157,073		32%	4.4	37%
25	Now You See Me 2	$55,739,445		33%	4.90	63%
26	Neighbors 2: Sorority Rising	$55,020,520		62%	5.70	52%
27	Barbershop: The Next Cut	$53,918,020		90%	6.80	72%
28	Me Before You	$52,886,795		58%	5.60	79%
29	13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi	$52,853,219		51%	5.5	85%
30	The Huntsman: Winter's War	$48,003,015		16%	4.20	49%
31	How to Be Single	$46,843,513		49%	5.2	50%
32	The Big Short	$46,264,692		88%	7.8	88%
33	Warcraft	$45,288,925		30%	4.2	80%
34	The Hateful Eight	$40,778,206		75%	7.3	76%
35	Money Monster	$40,601,072		56%	5.9	59%
36	Sisters	$37,921,265		59%	5.9	54%
37	Risen	$36,880,033		52%	5.6	73%
38	The Boy (2016)	$35,819,556		28%	4.3	39%
39	Dirty Grandpa	$35,593,113		11%	2.8	46%
40	The Nice Guys	$35,217,947		91%	7.60	82%
41	The 5th Wave	$34,912,982		16%	4.2	40%
42	Mother's Day	$32,492,859		7%	2.90	52%
43	Gods of Egypt	$31,153,464		16%	3.6	40%
44	Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Road Chip	$30,311,560		16%	3.4	53%
45	Hail, Caesar!	$30,080,225		85%	7.2	46%
46	Zoolander 2	$28,848,693		23%	4.5	23%
47	Joy	$28,141,138		60%	6.3	56%
48	The Finest Hours	$27,569,558		63%	6.1	69%
49	The Forest	$26,594,261		10%	4.1	24%
50	The Shallows	$26,251,647		75%	6.4	68%
51	The Witch	$25,138,705		91%	7.8	55%
52	Whiskey Tango Foxtrot	$23,083,334		68%	6.2	61%
53	God's Not Dead 2	$20,753,031		10%	3.6	62%
54	Keanu	$20,591,853		77%	6.50	64%

[Macleod]

Great new piece on Sony's current anxieties about Ghostbusters.  Posting this here because the thread is closed, and I feel it's relevant, as this seems like a sinking ship (and is described that way in the article):

 

https://variety.com/2016/film/news/ghostbusters-female-reboot-marketing-challenges-1201810847/

 

Yeah, that's right...I made a choice.

[kowhite]

On July 2, 2016 at 2:46 PM, UrosepsisFace said:

 

Actually, I think a horror movie could break out. With all the super-heroes and cartoons, and being decades from the 80s, horror fans might be starving for a hit, and this summer is showing off horrorish hit after hit. I'm interested to see what Lights Out does because it's rated PG13. Personally, I loved 80s horror for the extreme violence and nudity, but the R certainly limits the population that can watch the movie. 

 

Horror tentpoles gotta do something that just...blows people's minds.  It's just tough cause that genre isn't approachable for four quadrant appeal.  It's lightning in a bottle when it happens, and it usually involves something kind of groundbreaking.  What was the last that really did mega blockbuster?  Sixth Sense?  Some big ones since then, but that was probably the last super heavyweight.