trifle Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, Arlborn said: That was an amazing first post, damn. Welcome to this forum, please stay. @Barnack I didn't even see your number of posts! Yes, please do hang around, and welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanaMovie Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Passengers travelled to a further $13.4m from its 62 markets for $175.1m, including $12m from its Village Roadshow markets. Its leading markets so far are China ($33.5m), Russia ($16.9m) and the UK ($15.4m). Source: Screen Daily 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Only Japan yet to open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennaJ Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, fmpro said: Only Japan yet to open? Yup, in March. It's going to be a crawl to 300m, I think. A lot depends on how well it does in Japan. I have no idea what to expect from that market. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A District 3 Engineer Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) I wouldn't expect anything from them. It's doing fine in Germany and France, maybe 7-8 million could come from those markets alone (?), +/-5M from China (It will be dead this friday) and 6 more domestic... it will need +12 million from the rest of the world. Not an easy task considering it finished or almost finished its run in the bigger territories. Edited January 23, 2017 by A District 3 Engineer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifle Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 6 hours ago, A District 3 Engineer said: I wouldn't expect anything from them. It's doing fine in Germany and France, maybe 7-8 million could come from that market (?), +/-5M from China (It will be dead this thursday) and 6 more domestic... it will need +12 million from the rest of the world. Not an easy task considering it finished or almost finished its run in the bigger markets Yeah. It will be tough at this point, but that doesn't mean I'm not hoping for it. I still think it will have more than broken even based on the numbers another user posted regarding Sony's history of similar budgeted original science fiction, and based on the limited marketing we saw Sony do. And then there will be dvds and streaming services, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 9 hours ago, JennaJ said: Yup, in March. It's going to be a crawl to 300m, I think. A lot depends on how well it does in Japan. I have no idea what to expect from that market. I agree. Should crawl to 300 mill. Okay result 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 hours ago, trifle said: I still think it will have more than broken even based on the numbers another user posted regarding Sony's history of similar budgeted original science fiction, and based on the limited marketing we saw Sony do. And then there will be dvds and streaming services, etc. I could be misreading your post, but it is not that the movie will break even and then there will have the dvds, streaming service and TV come in. dvds, streaming service, tv and others is where the majority of revenues come from for the studios (Warner Brothers in 2015 made only 30% of is motion picture division revenue from theater ticket sales for example, without considering the video games movie adaptation sales). To go back to the Sony Elysium example. That is a breakdown of the movie revenue source DOMESTIC THEATRICAL REVENUE 43,737 INTL THEATRICAL REVENUE 74,017 DOMESTIC HOME ENT REVENUE 53,270 DOMESTIC HOME ENT PPV REVENUE 9,604 INTL HOME ENT REVENUE 36,210 INTL HOME ENT PPV REVENUE 6,665 DOMESTIC PAY TV REVENUE 13,552 DOMESTIC FREE TV REVENUE 12,193 INTERNATIONAL TELEVISION REVENUE 45,600 AIRLINES AND MUSIC 2,701 NON-THEATRICAL & OTHER 335 From the total of 297.934 million in revenues, about 40% came from theatrical (117.808 million), (close to the studio average of 35% of revenue coming from theater, big movie tend to do a bigger part of their revenue in cinema), 60% came after the theater run (180.126 million) A movie like Passenger (well almost every movie made in the home video era) do not turn a profit before television revenue come in at the very end. TV is around 25+% of a studio revenue from their motion picture division, much bigger than a movie division gross margin of profit. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifle Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Barnack said: I could be misreading your post, but it is not that the movie will break even and then there will have the dvds, streaming service and TV come in. dvds, streaming service, tv and others is where the majority of revenues come from for the studios (Warner Brothers in 2015 made only 30% of is motion picture division revenue from theater ticket sales for example, without considering the video games movie adaptation sales). To go back to the Sony Elysium example. That is a breakdown of the movie revenue source DOMESTIC THEATRICAL REVENUE 43,737 INTL THEATRICAL REVENUE 74,017 DOMESTIC HOME ENT REVENUE 53,270 DOMESTIC HOME ENT PPV REVENUE 9,604 INTL HOME ENT REVENUE 36,210 INTL HOME ENT PPV REVENUE 6,665 DOMESTIC PAY TV REVENUE 13,552 DOMESTIC FREE TV REVENUE 12,193 INTERNATIONAL TELEVISION REVENUE 45,600 AIRLINES AND MUSIC 2,701 NON-THEATRICAL & OTHER 335 From the total of 297.934 million in revenues, about 40% came from theatrical (117.808 million), (close to the studio average of 35% of revenue coming from theater, big movie tend to do a bigger part of their revenue in cinema), 60% came after the theater run (180.126 million) A movie like Passenger (well almost every movie made in the home video era) do not turn a profit before television revenue come in at the very end. TV is around 25+% of a studio revenue from their motion picture division, much bigger than a movie division gross margin of profit. Thank you for that explanation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennaJ Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 @Barnack, your posts are consistently very informative and enlightening to read. Thank you! 100m dom and 300m WW are just nice round numbers, so I'll keep hoping it gets to those milestones, even if it'll be a slow crawl. In the end I think considering the reviews, it did about as well as could be expected. I enjoyed it a lot and I hope to see these two actors work together again at some point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 175.1 M overseas | 269.8 M worldwide 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Mediocre as fuck run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifle Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Noctis said: Mediocre as fuck run. I'd say it's pretty good for a critically panned movie where people were making it out to be a social justice monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifle Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, kayumanggi said: 175.1 M overseas | 269.8 M worldwide well, BOM hasn't updated overseas numbers in a few days, but it is probably not too far from that. It is still running number 1 in Chinese theaters, but it is about to lose almost all theaters because of the Chinese New Year, starting tomorrow. Edited January 25, 2017 by trifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifle Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 On 1/24/2017 at 6:50 AM, Gavin Feng said: Tuesday estimates Passengers - 12.25m / 262mSomeone Like It Hot - 11.9m / 595mArrival - 10.75m / 72.1mBackkom Bear - 6.4m / 101mRogue One - 6.2m / 436mRailroad Tigers - 3m / 677mThe Great Wall - 2.5m / 1,153mKubo - 1.14m / 38.58mHacksaw Ridge - 1.13m / 416m 3 hours ago, Gavin Feng said: Wednesday estimates Passengers - 12.5m / 286mSomeone Like It Hot - 11.8m / 616mArrival - 10.65m / 87.85mBackkom Bear - 6.6m / 113mRogue One - 6.15m / 448m The Village of No Return - 3.5m for previewsRailroad Tigers - 2.9m / 682mThe Great Wall - 2.6m / 1,157mHacksaw Ridge - 1.3m / 418mKubo - 1.11m / 41.2m 2 hours ago, Gavin Feng said: The “leaving” we said means low number of screen showings. Theaters in nationwide will give local films 99.5% of 270,000 screen showings on CNY. 0.5%(1350 screen showings) for other films. sorry, I tried to edit these into the prior post but it just put them in a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A District 3 Engineer Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) that's about 41.5M. very good, all things considered. @Gavin Feng, can it make 3 more million? Edited January 25, 2017 by A District 3 Engineer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennaJ Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) No chance it gets some screens back after new year's, right? Feels like a lot of untapped potential, but that seems to be the norm for this movie. Every time I watch it I am baffled by how it got such scathing reviews and lukewarm marketing (in the US). I'm biased because I really liked it, but I just feel like this movie deserved better. But honestly, with these reviews, I'm thankful it's "decent" or "mediocre" and not "flop". Edited January 25, 2017 by JennaJ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 10 hours ago, A District 3 Engineer said: that's about 41.5M. very good, all things considered. @Gavin Feng, can it make 3 more million? $2.2-2.7m from Thursday and Friday I think. Saturday is CNY and there is no more showtimes for Passengers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifle Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Gavin Feng said: $2.2-2.7m from Thursday and Friday I think. Saturday is CNY and there is no more showtimes for Passengers Thank you for this information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A District 3 Engineer Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 At least it's achieving a little milestone: 300 million Yuans. It will be at +$285M after this weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...