TalismanRing Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, NamakFiskKa said: It should atleast perform like Spectre Why? Bond is a bigger brand O/S than DC, particularly in Europe where it's enormous. $125m in the UK, $73m Germany, $39m in France $22m in The Netherlands. Even being relatively weak in Latin America isn't enough to even the playing field. Edited November 8, 2017 by TalismanRing 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruchav Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, TalismanRing said: Why? Bond is a bigger brand O/S than DC, particularly in Europe where it's enormous. $125m in the UK, $73m Germany, $39m in France $22m in The Netherlands. Even being relatively weak in Latin America isn't enough to even the playing field. No, it's not, 007 would never get $ 543m OS If it had bad reviews like BVS had, Bond is clearly stronger only in Europe, but that includes all superhero brands, including you beloved Marvel. Edited November 8, 2017 by bruchav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Given that $300m production budget, this movie may needs $1b to break even, which could be hard for DCEU if WOM isn't great..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lehnsherr Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 $550 OS seems like a good estimate. Can't see it breaking out in China which would be needed for the $600M+ OS gross. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seng Wah Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 12 hours ago, titanic2187 said: Given that $300m production budget, this movie may needs $1b to break even, which could be hard for DCEU if WOM isn't great..... Presale in Msia is decent, slight better than Thor 3 but I assume walk-ins should be strong. Cinemas have started to add more screens on sneak previews for next Wed. I miss those time when presale of Transformers 3 & 4, Fast 7, Avengers and IM3, most of the halls were full when clicked through on the websites haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattW Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, titanic2187 said: Given that $300m production budget, this movie may needs $1b to break even, which could be hard for DCEU if WOM isn't great..... If the net budget really is 300m then a gross similar to BvS would be enough to be comfortably past break-even. Deadline's profitability calculation: (330*0.5) + (95*0.25) + (447*0.39) = $363m from the box office alone, enough to pay the budget and ~half of the marketing, home video and tv sales more than strong enough to pay the rest of the marketing plus all other costs. (and if you use WB's publicly released Harry Potter ratios instead, 0.555 domestic, 0.46 overseas instead of 0.5 and 0.39 you get $412m from the box office alone) Edited November 9, 2017 by MattW 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 8 hours ago, Michael Seng Wah said: Presale in Msia is decent, slight better than Thor 3 but I assume walk-ins should be strong. Cinemas have started to add more screens on sneak previews for next Wed. I miss those time when presale of Transformers 3 & 4, Fast 7, Avengers and IM3, most of the halls were full when clicked through on the websites haha. Fast 7 was the craziest.....Malaysian have show their great affiliation to SH movies, i dont see how they can resist JL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rambo Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 On 11/8/2017 at 8:47 PM, TalismanRing said: Why? Bond is a bigger brand O/S than DC, particularly in Europe where it's enormous. $125m in the UK, $73m Germany, $39m in France $22m in The Netherlands. Even being relatively weak in Latin America isn't enough to even the playing field. Bond is weak in LA. Skyfall had decent but not great numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rambo Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 If a crap like SS can gross 420m without china then JL can do a minimum of 550-600 OS (Hope so). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raegr Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, John Rambo said: If a crap like SS can gross 420m without china then JL can do a minimum of 550-600 OS (Hope so). My man! BvS was stifled overseas because WoM spread. 2nd weekend dropped 67% I think. If this is well received (even with worse ER) can still do 650M - 700M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamakFiskKa Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, John Rambo said: If a crap like SS can gross 420m without china That was a highly anticipated crap 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rambo Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, raegr said: My man! BvS was stifled overseas because WoM spread. 2nd weekend dropped 67% I think. If this is well received (even with worse ER) can still do 650M - 700M Yup like i mentioned minimum for JL shud be 550-600 range. People have mixed feelings abt DC universe. We have to factor in this as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raegr Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, John Rambo said: Yup like i mentioned minimum for JL shud be 550-600 range. People have mixed feelings abt DC universe. We have to factor in this as well. Of course, no one will give them the benefit of the doubt. If reviews are at least mixed, this will do fine. If reviews are mixed-positive, great! That should do the trick and people will give this one a chance. Let's see how the embargo pans out first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) On 11/8/2017 at 9:39 AM, bruchav said: No, it's not, 007 would never get $ 543m OS If it had bad reviews like BVS had, Bond is clearly stronger only in Europe, but that includes all superhero brands, including you beloved Marvel. He said particularly in Europe. Cut out both BVS and Spectre Europe gross and both are about the same with Spectre pointing higher. Bond has a stronghold in Europe and DCEU has stronghold in Latin America. Edited November 10, 2017 by YourMother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 I’m sticking with $600M-$650M OS. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raegr Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, YourMother said: I’m sticking with $600M-$650M OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinatico Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 it would do $650M OS easily 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 515-535 OS (including 85-90 from China). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXtacy2 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Yeah 500-550m range seems likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subzero Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 1 hour ago, YourMother said: I’m sticking with $600M-$650M OS. This is my range as well .... I think China will give it a good boost ...I think will get a much better result from China than we did BvS. Also it will hold much better than BvS did it second weekend as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...