Hatebox Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 I wonder if studios feel like they're tempting fate when they have taglines like "it begins" on would-be franchise movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim22 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 4 hours ago, vale900 said: IT got a huge young audience because of the stranger things feeling they gave to all the operation and the good marketing around the clown figure. We all know selling horror movies is easier. In no way the success of the movie was THAT big because the novel was THAT big upon the under 30s target. IT is a cult novel for the horror fans. Dune is a cult for the sci fi fans. It has 887K votes on goodreads. Dune has 904k votes. Dune has its own target: the sci fans. Can it get the casual younger audience or even the kids?. That's the question. The movie has Chalamet and Zendaya. I guess they're at least something more than Ryan Gosling and Harrison Ford. IT also had the TV miniseries which is fondly remembered by a lot of people. Tim Curry's Pennywise was really well performed as well. The impact of that nostalgia can't be understated either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 4 hours ago, vale900 said: IT got a huge young audience because of the stranger things feeling they gave to all the operation and the good marketing around the clown figure. We all know selling horror movies is easier. In no way the success of the movie was THAT big because the novel was THAT big upon the under 30s target. IT is a cult novel for the horror fans. Dune is a cult for the sci fi fans. It has 887K votes on goodreads. Dune has 904k votes. Dune has its own target: the sci fans. Can it get the casual younger audience or even the kids?. That's the question. The movie has Chalamet and Zendaya. I guess they're at least something more than Ryan Gosling and Harrison Ford. Stranger things certainly helped but I think the gimmick of killer clowns was a bigger draw than people realise. You didn't have to read IT or watch the old adaptations to know what it was. I remember there was even people dressed as clowns causing a bit of mayhem before IT opened, awareness was sky high because it's a fear many people can relate too. Dune on the other hand is a harder sell. There wasn't much in the books or previous adaptations that has made it iconic to general movie goers so it has an uphill battle and the tone they seem to have taken seem more inline with my taste than 'high grossing blockbuster' taste but I would love to be proven wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menor the Destroyer Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) IT trailer went viral. 197m views in 24 hours. It was everywhere on my social media. Dune has not had anything close to that level. Edited September 8, 2021 by Menor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, Menor said: IT trailer went viral. 197m views in 24 hours. It was everywhere on my social media. Dune has not had anything close to that level. I just remember how much of a pain in the ass it was trying to talk about it with mates. "Shall we watch IT?" "Watch what? "IT" "Be more specific" Rinse and repeat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale900 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) The Martian by Ridley scott opened with 54M dollars. I think in a normal context Dune could have been a similar opening. People are so pessimistic about this movie cause the predictions for BD 2049 were like 50-60M for the OW and then it made the half. This is just a different movie from BD 2049. . This is an epic sci fi story from a popular book. This has a good cast and the trailer made good numbers. The recent final trailer on WB account alone has 18M views, BD 2049 final trailer has 14M views after 4 years. Even Arrival, an original, opened with 24M, just a short under BD2049 . So it's not like every Villenueve movie has to flop now. BD 2049 failed for so many reasons, Dune is different, Edited September 8, 2021 by vale900 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) Edited September 8, 2021 by Elessar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 43 minutes ago, vale900 said: The Martian by Ridley scott opened with 54M dollars. I think in a normal context Dune could have been a similar opening. People are so pessimistic about this movie cause the predictions for BD 2049 were like 50-60M for the OW and then it made the half. This is just a different movie from BD 2049. . This is an epic sci fi story from a popular book. This has a good cast and the trailer made good numbers. The recent final trailer on WB account alone has 18M views, BD 2049 final trailer has 14M views after 4 years. Even Arrival, an original, opened with 24M, just a short under BD2049 . So it's not like every Villenueve movie has to flop now. BD 2049 failed for so many reasons, Dune is different, The Martian was an amazing book though. I agree this should be hitting 50m in normal circumstances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DInky Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 56 minutes ago, Elessar said: A bit strange that they're not showing off the Imax aspect ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 I created Dune OS thread: If you have more info about presales, please submit them to that thread too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonytr87 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Chicago said: Stranger things certainly helped but I think the gimmick of killer clowns was a bigger draw than people realise. You didn't have to read IT or watch the old adaptations to know what it was. I remember there was even people dressed as clowns causing a bit of mayhem before IT opened, awareness was sky high because it's a fear many people can relate too. Dune on the other hand is a harder sell. There wasn't much in the books or previous adaptations that has made it iconic to general movie goers so it has an uphill battle and the tone they seem to have taken seem more inline with my taste than 'high grossing blockbuster' taste but I would love to be proven wrong I keep saying, if movies like Inception and Interstellar can make money, so can this. That being said, WB has made it an uphill climb when they didn't have to. Edited September 9, 2021 by tonytr87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonytr87 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 On 9/7/2021 at 11:59 AM, Valonqar said: Unknown IPs can blow up too. Dune was set to be an Xmas spectacle but covid-19 happened. So it's more down to WB's decision to put it on HBO Max than to make the movie at all. This here. People are acting like brainy blockbusters don't happen from time to time. If anything, the constant belly-aching about what a flop it MIGHT be what dooms it. Self-fulfilling prophecies and whatnot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, tonytr87 said: This here. People are acting like brainy blockbusters don't happen from time to time. If anything, the constant belly-aching about what a flop it MIGHT be what dooms it. Self-fulfilling prophecies and whatnot. Yep and quite a number of them came from WB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 7 hours ago, tonytr87 said: I keep saying, if movies like Inception and Interstellar can make money, so can this. That being said, WB has made it an uphill climb when they didn't have to. Inception was advertised as "The director of The Dark Knight" whilst starring the biggest box office draw on the planet. You cannot compare Inception to Dune. Nolan is one of the few directors who's name sells the movie alone. If his name was on Dune it would add to it's box office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 12 hours ago, DInky said: A bit strange that they're not showing off the Imax aspect ratio. Maybe because IMAX can truly be appreciated only on an IMAX screen. On a TV it may have the reverse effect - while, sure, every frame encompasses more picture, the image is ultimately smaller due to the black bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 15 hours ago, Chicago said: I just remember how much of a pain in the ass it was trying to talk about it with mates. "Shall we watch IT?" "Watch what? "IT" "Be more specific" IT in Punjabi is word for brick, so first time my friend asked me to watch it, I was wondering why is he asking to me watch a brick. I hadn't watched any trailer or knew of it, so going blind was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 1 minute ago, charlie Jatinder said: IT in Punjabi is word for brick, so first time my friend asked me to watch it, I was wondering why is he asking to me watch a brick. I hadn't watched any trailer or knew of it, so going blind was great. There's actually a pretty good movie called 'Brick' starring Joseph Gordon Levitt in his older years lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 If this was directed by Nolan, the same movie with same trailer and HBO Max would have opened $50M. Now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 I predict great opening OS next week. People are gonna be surprised. Too much focus on dom and HBO MAX on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Valonqar said: I predict great opening OS next week. People are gonna be surprised. Too much focus on dom and HBO MAX on this forum. Let's hope so. I'm not yet convinced. A few near to full showings really doesn't mean much, it needs that in pretty much every town for it to do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...