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3 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Yeah the original was fun. Just like with Godzilla '14 though, Edwards had to go and ruin this reboot. 

 

Man, everyone knows how much I hated JW and yet I don't think I have a tenth of the rage towards Trevorrow that you do towards Edwards. They're just movies, man. (Pun, uh, intended.) :P 

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16 minutes ago, Cochofles said:

 

If you enjoyed it, I will enjoy it too, I bet.

By the way, now that you have seen it...do you feel that the reviews are...well...accurate? I mean, most critics make it seem like it is Uwe-Boll-levels of awful. I suspect that it is too schmaltzy for their taste, but I really want to see this. I don't mind a manipulative tearjerker at all (one of my faves is Beaches)...

 

You're honestly asking me if I think the critics were right? You know how I feel about critics. In my opinion the kind of worthless. They don't see movies the same way that I think they should. But that's a conversation for another time. To answer your question no I don't agree with them at all about this movie.

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We are now..... or some of us are now saying that 29 million in previews is not huge. Just because we have a 57 million dollar preview and something like 45 million for Deathly Hallows 2, I can't actually remember the number right now, doesn't mean that this is a small number. I will use the racing analogy again. Usain Bolt has run a ridiculous 9.6 100m.......or whatever it was. Does that mean that Carl Lewis is a slow Runner now? Does it mean Ben Johnson, even though he was on steroids, was a slow Runner? You can't just say that because one preview member doesn't reach the lofty Heights of the two biggest preview numbers ever recorded that it's a crappy number LOL

 

And for me this is a huge number. No matter what it opens to this weekend it's a huge number. As I've said a million times now this is the first time in 8 movies now that Star Wars has gone outside of the main story. In my opinion expecting this to do more than 450 million is not overly realistic LOL but we have a long way to go before I'm proven right.

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So now the question is which trend will it follow.  

 

Ep III did 16.5m from previews (which adjusts to 22.2m in 2016) and went on to a 50m OD (67m adj) on a Thursday and FA did 57m from previews and a 120m OD. So, we are looking at a 2.1 - 3.0 multi from previews for a  61m - 87m range.  

 

Previews have definitely grown since then, but at the same time RO isn't as much of a "Rush out and see this for a first showing" type of movie as FA with the return of the main cast (in my opinion).  I still feel 3x is obviously way too high to expect but feel 2.1x is too low.  

 

I'm thinking this should get about a 2.3 - 2.5 multi for a 67 - 72m OD (38 - 43m true Friday).

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Just now, Christmas Baumer said:

We are now..... or some of us are now saying that 29 million in previews is not huge. Just because we have a 57 million dollar preview and something like 45 million for Deathly Hallows 2, I can't actually remember the number right now, doesn't mean that this is a small number. I will use the racing analogy again. Usain Bolt has run a ridiculous 9.6 100m.......or whatever it was. Does that mean that Carl Lewis is a slow Runner now? Does it mean Ben Johnson, even though he was on steroids, was a slow Runner? You can't just say that because one preview member doesn't reach the lofty Heights of the two biggest preview numbers ever recorded that it's a crappy number LOL

 

And for me this is a huge number. No matter what it opens to this weekend it's a huge number. As I've said a million times now this is the first time in 8 movies now that Star Wars has gone outside of the main story. In my opinion expecting this to do more than 450 million is not overly realistic LOL but we have a long way to go before I'm proven right.

I wouldn't say it's unrealistic. We just have a preview #. I wouldn't say you're below 450m prediction is unrealistic if this had done 3m more in previews. The range is very wide right now. It could do 125m OW. It could still do 160m. It could 3x or 3.5x legs.

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2 minutes ago, Christmas Baumer said:

We are now..... or some of us are now saying that 29 million in previews is not huge. Just because we have a 57 million dollar preview and something like 45 million for Deathly Hallows 2, I can't actually remember the number right now, doesn't mean that this is a small number. I will use the racing analogy again. Usain Bolt has run a ridiculous 9.6 100m.......or whatever it was. Does that mean that Carl Lewis is a slow Runner now? Does it mean Ben Johnson, even though he was on steroids, was a slow Runner? You can't just say that because one preview member doesn't reach the lofty Heights of the two biggest preview numbers ever recorded that it's a crappy number LOL

 

And for me this is a huge number. No matter what it opens to this weekend it's a huge number. As I've said a million times now this is the first time in 8 movies now that Star Wars has gone outside of the main story. In my opinion expecting this to do more than 450 million is not overly realistic LOL but we have a long way to go before I'm proven right.

 

It's ok Baumer, I'm pretty sure we're right about it. It feels good being right doesn't it.

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1 minute ago, Christmas Baumer said:

We are now..... or some of us are now saying that 29 million in previews is not huge. Just because we have a 57 million dollar preview and something like 45 million for Deathly Hallows 2, I can't actually remember the number right now, doesn't mean that this is a small number. I will use the racing analogy again. Usain Bolt has run a ridiculous 9.6 100m.......or whatever it was. Does that mean that Carl Lewis is a slow Runner now? Does it mean Ben Johnson, even though he was on steroids, was a slow Runner? You can't just say that because one preview member doesn't reach the lofty Heights of the two biggest preview numbers ever recorded that it's a crappy number LOL

 

And for me this is a huge number. No matter what it opens to this weekend it's a huge number. As I've said a million times now this is the first time in 8 movies now that Star Wars has gone outside of the main story. In my opinion expecting this to do more than 450 million is not overly realistic LOL but we have a long way to go before I'm proven right.

 

I know everyone gets really eager to prove themselves right with their prognostications but yes, aside from the fact this is a really big number -- perhaps not mind-blowing, but really big -- we don't know anything. No one is proved right or wrong. This is the calm before we know anything. It could track closely with TFA. It could track very differently. There's really no probability of either over the other.

 

Let's sit back and wait. We'll get numbers in a few hours. And even then, it's worth thinking that despite everything we think we know, movies surprise us all the time. You'd think we would all know this at this point... from SHREK 2 to TF2 to JW and F7 and the HOBBITs and FB (to name but a few). But obviously we forget in the heat of the moment. :lol: 

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Just now, Grand Moff Tele said:

 

Man, everyone knows how much I hated JW and yet I don't think I have a tenth of the rage towards Trevorrow that you do towards Edwards. They're just movies, man. (Pun, uh, intended.) :P 

He's just despicable as a director, sucking the life out of every frame he touches with his sour and dour style of film-making. He wants nothing to happen in as long of his films' runtime as possible out of some kind of misguided notion that it elevates his films when the third act "payoff" comes around. It exposes a total ambivalence towards the medium of feature length filmmaking. He wants to make 10-15% of a film and not have to be bothered with the remainder of it. The soulless characters that inhabit his barren muted worlds only serve to highlight his obviously bleak world viewpoint, as it seeps through the screen like toxic waste, draining any sense of entertainment value out of the Hollywood blockbuster. 

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