Olive Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just now, John Marston said: Why? Bad WOM from EP7 and RO, lack of advertising, weak buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, Olive Skywalker said: Bad WOM from EP7 and RO, lack of advertising, weak buzz. Is it safe to say that the Chinese just dont really care about SW? It would make sense to me, since the Original Trilogy isnt important to them as far as i know it and both TFA and RO played heavily with the nostalgia factor, for which China coundt care less with that logic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Even a 30% drop O/S = $792m A 40% drop = $678m I think O/S will be above domestic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just now, TalismanRing said: Even a 30% drop O/S = $792m A 40% drop = $678m I think O/S will be above domestic. I agree. I am thinking 750m DOM / 680M OS / 1.43B WW. Makes you wonder what Han Solo will do OS. At this point, I don't think even 450m is a lock. Maybe 400m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Brainbug said: Is it safe to say that the Chinese just dont really care about SW? It would make sense to me, since the Original Trilogy isnt important to them as far as i know it and both TFA and RO played heavily with the nostalgia factor, for which China coundt care less with that logic. Markets like Russia and China didn't have access to Star Wars in the 70s/80s for many reasons, that's why these 2 markets don't care about this franchise to begin with. If Disney wants SW to be more successful in these markets they'll have to work on it and that won't be easy. Latin America seems to have more potential when it comes to the growth of Star Wars on the long run. Edited December 13, 2017 by Fullbuster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Fullbuster said: Markets like Russia and Star Wars didn't have access to Star Wars in the 70s/80s for many reasons, that's why these 2 markets don't care about this franchise to begin with. If Disney wants SW to be more successful in these markets they'll have to work on it and that won't be easy. Latin America seems to have more potential when it comes to the growth of Star Wars on the long run. I didnt know Star Wars in itself is a market Shouldnt the movie break all the records there? Thats like - a whole galaxy of markets! The exchange rate compared to our galaxy is probably but still Spoiler 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 680m would be a really big drop. A bit disappointing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 25 minutes ago, Brainbug said: Is it safe to say that the Chinese just dont really care about SW? It would make sense to me, since the Original Trilogy isnt important to them as far as i know it and both TFA and RO played heavily with the nostalgia factor, for which China coundt care less with that logic. maybe you could say that about Asian markets in general with the exception of Japan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, James said: I agree. I am thinking 750m DOM / 680M OS / 1.43B WW. Makes you wonder what Han Solo will do OS. At this point, I don't think even 450m is a lock. Maybe 400m? definitely. Solo seems like the least appealing Star Wars film so far. I would say 300/400 - 700 something 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 17 minutes ago, Brainbug said: I didnt know Star Wars in itself is a market Shouldnt the movie break all the records there? Thats like - a whole galaxy of markets! The exchange rate compared to our galaxy is probably but still Hide contents Edited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoft Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 6 hours ago, MinaTakla said: DM3 OS over The Last Jedi OS would be a huge surprise. Thinking Jedi still goes over DM3's 768m OS. Not a huge surprise, I totally see that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just now, NCsoft said: Not a huge surprise, I totally see that happening. Yep, Despicable Me is strong in fast-growing markets, Star Wars not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastien Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 20% drop for first seances in France. Seems pretty solid to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 58 minutes ago, Olive Skywalker said: Bad WOM from EP7 and RO, lack of advertising, weak buzz. Bad WOM on EP7 ???? But the US critics and the majority of posters on here told me it was fantastic?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bastien said: 20% drop for first seances in France. Seems pretty solid to me. Seems solid but shouldn't the previews have the smallest drop, as the die hard fans don't disappear. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, IronJimbo said: Bad WOM on EP7 ???? But the US critics and the majority of posters on here told me it was fantastic?! You has answered yourself: US critics and most of posters here come from USA. China has different tastes. They prefer another HLW franchises. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoft Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, IronJimbo said: Seems solid but shouldn't the previews have the smallest drop, as the die hard fans don't disappear. that 20% drop actually doesn't bode too well for domestic opening number if you think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just now, NCsoft said: that 20% drop actually doesn't bode too well for domestic opening number if you think about it. meh, we always knew it would drop. Though if it goes below 700m either domestic or overseas I would say that is a bit disappointing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 What's wrong? 20% drop is great (if it's less frontloaded than SW7 - which I think will happen for the OW) Don't make drama after that number... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, John Marston said: meh, we always knew it would drop. Though if it goes below 700m either domestic or overseas I would say that is a bit disappointing I would low a bit that barrier for the disappointment. Maybe over/under $650m is a good limit for the domestic performance. It means a 30% drop which is what, more or less, both Empire Strikes Back and Attack of the Clones dropped relative to Star Wars and Phantom Menace, respectively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...