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Ghostbusters was ok

[Truckasaurus]

So Passengers, a big budget extravaganza starring superstars JLaw and Pratt, is going to open lower than Sisters and Road Chip.

 

What a world we live in.

[filmlover]

52 minutes ago, Nova said:

Defense is scarce for Ghostbusters because most other places aren't openly discussing. This is the only site I've been to where folks are still discussing it. For such a "mediocre and terrible" movie that some of you guys claim it is, you sure spend so much damn time talking about it. 

One of the most fun movies of the year IMO. The pre-release backlash was so silly.

[miketheavenger]

IMO Ghostbusters was neither good enough nor bad enough to justify the hoopla around its release. It was just mediocre.

[filmlover]

Deadline projections for the limited releases:

 

Patriot’s Day  (CBS/LG), 7 theaters  /$53k Fri. / 3-day cume: $164k /3-day PTA: $23,5k/$4-day:$242k /Total: $338k/Wk 1

Silence  (PAR), 4 theaters  /$40k Fri. / 3-day cume: $114k /3-day PTA: $28,5K/4-day:$167K/ Wk 1

A Monster Calls  (FOC), 4 theaters  /$7K Fri. / 3-day cume: $22K /3-day PTA: $5,5K/4-day:$33k/Wk 1

[CJohn]

2 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Deadline projections for the limited releases:

 

A Monster Calls  (FOC), 4 theaters  /$7K Fri. / 3-day cume: $22K /3-day PTA: $5,5K/4-day:$33k/Wk 1

 

Stupid America.

[filmlover]

Just now, CJohn said:

 

Stupid America.

It's doomed when it goes wide in two weeks. Focus should've kept it in October when appealing options were limited and it didn't carry the weight of figuring into the awards race.

[a2k]

IMO just like a big grossing movie does not exactly reflect the star power of it's actors, a low grossing movie does not reflect their lack of star power either.

A lot of variables in play. The question is how much would Joy make without JLaw, or how much would Pass make without JLaw and Pratt...probably so less that they wouldn't be greenlit in the 1st place? The quality, genre, marketing and what else matter too. Hanks did not loose his star power from Sully to Inferno within a few weeks. A movie like Joy opened well for Dec (with mediocre reception that too) but didn't have good legs. Pass opened badly but who could have opened this same movie bigger, with the same release date, competition, etc.?

[Lordmandeep]

I would argue an industry like Bollywood is Star Driven.

 

There really bad films can make a huge gross due it staring a popular actor that's really liked. 

[filmlover]

4 minutes ago, a2knet said:

IMO just like a big grossing movie does not exactly reflect the star power of it's actors, a low grossing movie does not reflect their lack of star power either.

A lot of variables in play. The question is how much would Joy make without JLaw, or how much would Pass make without JLaw and Pratt...probably so less that they wouldn't be greenlit in the 1st place? The quality, genre, marketing and what else matter too. Hanks did not loose his star power from Sully to Inferno within a few weeks. A movie like Joy opened well for Dec (with mediocre reception that too) but didn't have good legs. Pass opened badly but who could have opened this same movie bigger, with the same release date, competition, etc.?

With anyone else this movie would've been dumped in September instead of given a prime holiday release spot.

[baumer]

1 hour ago, Krissykins said:

Passengers and Assassins Creed will be two of the biggest domestic flops of the year.

 

Joining Alice 2, Warcraft, BFG, Turtles 2, Deepwater Horizon, Tarzan, Independence Day, Huntsman 2 and of course Ben Hur.

 

11 films with domestic grosses further below their production budgets than Ghostbusters. 

 

A small win, lol. 

Sorry but this post is way off base. Passengers is not going to be a domestic flop. If the budget was 120 million dollars as reported it's definitely going to come close to making that. When you make back your budget domestically it's not a flop. It's definitely not a hit but it's not going to be one of the biggest flops of the year. That is just silly.

[baumer]

May be the dumbest thing that Sony did with passengers was thinking that it would be counter-programming against Star Wars. They are both science fiction films that take place essentially in space. And Star Wars is a massive property. So why would they think that it would be a film that people would see instead of Star Wars?

 

But like I said several times already in the last few days, give passengers a chance. It's a really good film and a lot of people that are seeing it are saying that it's good. This really could be a film that has good word-of-mouth and we'll make a decent amount of money over the holidays and Beyond.

[Lordmandeep]

I am interested in watching Passengers just not paying 13 bucks for it.

 

 

I think that is why so many films like that flop...

 

 

They need a big gross but people dont want to spend money on movies with no built in goodwill and has bad reviews.

 

Especially if you can watch films on Netflix or Stream at home with a fireplace to your back with a nice tea  

 

 

Edited December 24, 2016 by Lordmandeep

[lab276]

I'll probably see Passengers anyway, same with Ass Creed. Seems like there's just not much out this summer, compared to the last two years. What are the Oscar hopefuls apart from La La Land?

[filmlover]

2 minutes ago, lab276 said:

I'll probably see Passengers anyway, same with Ass Creed. Seems like there's just not much out this summer, compared to the last two years. What are the Oscar hopefuls apart from La La Land?

Manchester by the Sea, Moonlight, Arrival, Hacksaw Ridge. All excellent movies worth seeing. Jackie is also worth seeing just for Natalie Portman's performance if nothing else.

Edited December 24, 2016 by filmlover

[Lordmandeep]

Just now, filmlover said:

Manchester by the Sea, Moonlight, Arrival. All excellent movies worth seeing. Jackie is also worth seeing just for Natalie Portman's performance if nothing else.

 

 

Screeners

[RascarCapat]

I don't get why people are talking about 500M "maybe" being a "possibility" for R1.

 

Tele's model seems to be pretty acurate (at least until friday) and is blowing way past 500M.

 

just as a reminder :

 

12/19    -53.00%    $17,709,211    $172,790,892
12/20    7.00%    $18,948,856    $191,739,747
12/21    -24.00%    $14,401,130    $206,140,878
12/22    8.00%    $15,553,221    $221,694,098
12/23    45.00%    $22,552,170    $244,246,268
12/24    -44.00%    $12,629,215    $256,875,484
12/25    100.00%    $25,258,430    $282,133,914
12/26    15.00%    $29,047,195    $311,181,109
12/27    -25.00%    $21,785,396    $332,966,505
12/28    -19.00%    $17,646,171    $350,612,676
12/29    -2.00%    $17,293,248    $367,905,923
12/30    20.00%    $20,751,897    $388,657,820
12/31    -22.00%    $16,186,480    $404,844,300
1/1    10.00%    $17,805,128    $422,649,428
1/2    -55.00%    $8,012,307    $430,661,735

Edited December 24, 2016 by RascarCapat

[Lordmandeep]

Jan 2nd will be 10-20% drop

 

Its a holiday for most people 

Edited December 24, 2016 by Lordmandeep

[TalismanRing]

25 minutes ago, filmlover said:

With anyone else this movie would've been dumped in September instead of given a prime holiday release spot.

 

It also wouldn't have had $110m budget and months of costly worldwide promotion

[CJohn]

37 minutes ago, filmlover said:

It's doomed when it goes wide in two weeks. Focus should've kept it in October when appealing options were limited and it didn't carry the weight of figuring into the awards race.

I don't even think it will get a wide release at all now.