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I don't think that the five year difference in of itself is what will cause this to decrease.... hell, How To Train Your Dragon 3, if there is a serving box office God, has a chance to increase from the 2nd movie (it will likely not happen due to the overcrowding of the family market, but imagine that everyone suddenly remembers "oh shit, these HTTYD movies are dope and this is the last one, let's not Kung Fu Panda this thing!!!"), and it also came out in 2014. The problem really is the spin-offs, especifically making two of them in the same year (and one of them wasn't even all that well liked and was also a flop in Lego Ninjago). Lego Batman would've been great after the 1st Lego Movie direct sequel, not as the 1st movie after the original. It still did pretty strongly, in spite of coming way below most people's overpredictions, myself's included, but I think it could have come closer to said overpredictions if WB had managed this franchise better. Ninjago was just a huge mistake, although I get the reasons why they gave it the green light: Ninjago is the biggest selling Lego toyline or something like that, and they wanted to reassure the franchise's potential by making another Lego movie that was kind of its own thing separated from The Lego Movie's main world; but it was too far apart from the main series, the TV show was still ongoing and popular enough that a theatrically released movie without a hook to it, alas Sponge Out Of Water with the live action/CGI superhero hybrid gimmick, wouldn't do that great at the box office, and reception was just not too good. I think that the existence and less than expected box office performances of both made the gap between Lego 1 and 2 feel bigger than what it actually is, and this caused the notion of Lego 2 being waaaaaaay deflated in hype, considering the overexposure of the brand at this point. If Lego 2 isn't anything less than stellar, the Lego franchise might need to take a long break in order to catch its box office breath again (or straight up stop after the sequel, if needed).

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I just popped onto here to mention that I think that even though delayed sequels have recently done well, this one just feels like it's coming out at the wrong time. 

 

It seems I'm not alone and this seems like it's actually the general sentiment, rather than the hot take I thought it might be.

 

It does at least seem to have a bit of real estate to work with in terms of release date, though.

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Yeah, let's hope it fails worse thаn Ninjago - so these Youtube flicks finally stop littering cinemas.

 

PS: Otherwise, what's next... How about Marshmallow movie: where all would be hip characters are like in all other pseudo hip parodies - but made of marshmallow! And the visual effects are worth fifteen hundred bucks! And Americans STILL go see this HIP movie, because... eeh, because they liked eating marshmallow as kids, and they still salivate like Pavlov's dogs when they hear this word. :)

 

The only reason this Marshmallow movie hasn't still been made is: Marshmallow isn't a brand name owned by Hasbro or some other shit capitalist mega-greedy mega-corporation... yet!

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16 minutes ago, shayhiri said:

Yeah, let's hope it fails worse then Ninjago - so these Youtube flicks finally stop littering cinemas.

 

PS: Otherwise, what's next... How about Marshmallow movie: where all would be hip characters are like in all other pseudo hip parodies - but made of marshmallow! And the visual effects are worth fifteen hundred bucks! And Americans STILL go see this HIP movie, because... eeh, because they liked eating marshmallow as kids, and they still salivate like Pavlov's dogs when they hear this word. :)

 

The only reason this Marshmallow movie hasn't still been made is: Marshmallow isn't a brand name owned by Hasbro or some other shit capitalist mega greedy mega-corporation... yet!

Nothing wrong with wanting a film to fail, I would hate for people to be taken for fools by the mega corps.

 

We need to fight back and only support films which are made with heart by Directors and people with passion.

 

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32 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

Nothing wrong with wanting a film to fail, I would hate for people to be taken for fools by the mega corps.

 

We need to fight back and only support films which are made with heart by Directors and people with passion.

 

Oooooooor we can enjoy whatever films we want to enjoy without pretending like the commercial stuff bothers anyone outside of the cinephile circle.

 

Look, I get that for we movie geeks have specific tastes and don't eat up anything that comes up ahead, but.... really, cinema is art, but it's also pure escapism for a lot of people. Same thing can be said for any other kind of art.

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Just now, MCKillswitch123 said:

Oooooooor we can enjoy whatever films we want to enjoy without pretending like the commercial stuff bothers anyone outside of the cinephile circle.

 

Look, I get that for we movie geeks have specific tastes and don't eat up anything that comes up ahead, but.... really, cinema is art, but it's also pure escapism for a lot of people. Same thing can be said for any other kind of art.

The problem is the commercial first films are by and large much worse.

 

The same thing can seen in Gaming as commercialisation is becoming more and more prominent. We have the quality of games tanking and there's just not much heart in it anymore. To see this at it's absolute worst we can look towards Mobile Gaming which were somewhat respectable 5-8 years ago, now it's a complete mess and everything is pay to win, in game currencies and horrible ads.

Whose to say they won't try similar stuff in the film industry? All the big budgets are going to sequels/remakes in studio/money first productions. How long until all the medium budgets are doing it? With the trajectory we're on I won't be suprised if we see small popup ads MID FILM by 2030 and full screen ads by 2040.

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1 hour ago, IronJimbo said:

The problem is the commercial first films are by and large much worse in your opinion.

 

The same thing can seen in Gaming as commercialisation is becoming more and more prominent. We have the quality of games tanking and there's just not much heart in it anymore. To see this at it's absolute worst we can look towards Mobile Gaming which were somewhat respectable 5-8 years ago, now it's a complete mess and everything is pay to win, in game currencies and horrible ads.

Whose to say they won't try similar stuff in the film industry? All the big budgets are going to sequels/remakes in studio/money first productions. How long until all the medium budgets are doing it? With the trajectory we're on I won't be suprised if we see small popup ads MID FILM by 2030 and full screen ads by 2040.

In bold are three words that make all the difference. GA's don't really care about the mid budget or non-commercial films unless they have an attractive concept nowadays. That, alongside recognizable brands, mass appeal genres and nostalgia, is what sells in the current world. Very few movies are sold on actual names, this isn't the 80's and 90's anymore. That's why few originals are huge hits, as welcome as they may be (though most hit originals are horror films).

 

Also, why is gaming being used as a metric? Gaming's problems straight up border on anti-consumer, and as a result, the gaming community is way less lenient on giving backlash, as even the big commercial game releases can be crippled, rushed out the door or destroyed by the greedy inclusion of ways for studios to make more money on top of the big load of cash that had already been paid upfront. Big budgets going to franchise films is not really anti-consumer, and if there is a film people just don't have any interest on, they won't show up for it, period (case in point: Solo). But if people do wanna see them, why stop them? I'll be the 1st to tell you that Disney's remakes, apart from a handful, are completely useless from a creative standpoint and only serve to mindfulnessly entertain and nostalgia bait for a while.... but I'll also be the 1st to tell you that if people like them and they make a fucking shit ton of money, then why wouldn't you bank on them?

 

Either way, I'm not sure if this conversation is even relevant for The Lego Movie 2. The 1st movie was, y'know, legit excellent. Why in the world would they not do a sequel?

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