Roman Israel, Esq. | Dan Gilroy, Denzel/Colin Farrell | 11/17/17 limited

[Fancyarcher]

17 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

I gasped at "bad Denzel performance"  

The playlist and a few other publications did rave his performance though, despite calling the film a mess.

Edited September 12, 2017 by Fancyarcher

[TalismanRing]

Interesting, initial spin on this out of TIFF was a "mess" and a disappointment.

 

Looking at early reviews though they're OK, not award caliber certainly but not a disaster and Denzel is getting some good notices

 

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/roman_j_israel_esq

 

Not all that different from The Battle Of The Sexes where the initial narrative was "Oscar for Emma"

 

[filmlover]

On ‎9‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 11:51 AM, Jake Gittes said:

They're better off giving this a wide Christmas release and squeezing as much as possible out of Denzel's starpower and the holidays. It might die a Billy Lynn death in November.

It's gonna be difficult for this (or any movie, for that matter) to do as bad as Billy Lynn because that movie made less than $2M in total. Denzel's one of the few remaining stars with actual drawing power so Collateral Beauty/Concussion numbers should be in the cards as both a best and worst case scenario.

[Jake Gittes]

1 minute ago, filmlover said:

It's gonna be difficult for this (or any movie, for that matter) to do as bad as Billy Lynn because that movie made less than $2M in total. Denzel's one of the few remaining stars with actual drawing power so Collateral Beauty/Concussion numbers should be in the cards as both a best and worst case scenario.

 

If it opens immediately wide, sure. They should at least scrap the platform release with the average at best reviews. 

[WrathOfHan]

Yeah, this can probably go wide immediately on the current date, because it'll get theaters slashed in the 3rd week no matter where it is.

[TalismanRing]

11 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

 

If it opens immediately wide, sure. They should at least scrap the platform release with the average at best reviews. 

 

Agreed, no reason not to open it wide.  There's no need to curate it and roll it to gain award traction and buzz.  It's not a specialty audience pic and it's Denzel - he has a built in audience that's probably more consistent and solid than any other actor's.

[TalismanRing]

21 minutes ago, filmlover said:

It's gonna be difficult for this (or any movie, for that matter) to do as bad as Billy Lynn because that movie made less than $2M in total. Denzel's one of the few remaining stars with actual drawing power so Collateral Beauty/Concussion numbers should be in the cards as both a best and worst case scenario.

A Denzel drama can do better than Concussion or CB numbers - I'd think those would be worse case unless they give it some semi wide release.

[filmlover]

Set to open in five weeks and still doesn't have a trailer. This is either going to be dumped or delayed to next year as a wide release hoping to squeeze some bucks out of Denzel's starpower.

[Eric Atreides]

http://digitalcinema.bydeluxe.com/site/dlxportal/docs/TrailMix_By_Deluxe_WK_40_-_US.pdf

 

Trailer drops this week, behind Blade Runna.

[Eric Atreides]

http://ew.com/movies/2017/10/05/denzel-washington-roman-j-israel-esq-trailer/

 

Trailer in the link.

[WrathOfHan]

I can see why some people are saying Roman Israel is a really unlikable character. WTF is up with Farrell's accent?  

[raegr]

Saw this at TIFF...

 

as I said before: AVOID

[That One Girl]

Rated PG-13 for language and some violence

[WrathOfHan]

2 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

Rated PG-13 for language and some violence

Wait, this is PG-13? lmao

[raegr]

17 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

Wait, this is PG-13? lmao

PG-13 character drama lol

 

Saw it at Tiff, it really really sucked.

 

Hope y'all enjoy it more. 

[TalismanRing]

19 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

Wait, this is PG-13? lmao

  Teenagers....  still think making something R rated makes it better because a couple of fucks and a breast shot = quality.

 

 

[filmlover]

3 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

  Teenagers....  still think making something R rated makes it better because a couple of fucks and a breast shot = quality.

 

 

Hey, I thought the same thing when I was his age.  Now I know better.

[WrathOfHan]

1 hour ago, TalismanRing said:

  Teenagers....  still think making something R rated makes it better because a couple of fucks and a breast shot = quality.

 

 

Not necessarily, but Roman Israel doesn't sound like a PG-13 character on paper  

[grim22]

They used TIFF as a test screening

 

EXCLUSIVE: The creative team behind the legal thriller Roman J. Israel, Esq is appealing for a retrial. After a Toronto International Film Festival premiere, the drama has been substantially reconfigured by writer/director Dan Gilroy and star Denzel Washington, to become what they feel is a much leaner, tighter and more focused drama. They dropped a dozen minutes from the running time, moved up a key scene, dropped another, and radically changed the musical backdrop. Sony opens the film in a platform run on November 10, broadening November 17 into a wide release for the Thanksgiving holiday.

[filmlover]

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They dropped a dozen minutes from the running time, moved up a key scene, dropped another, and radically changed the musical backdrop.

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