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The best film of last year, and the best 1970s disaster film:
 

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#176

Suicide Squad (2016)

"We're bad guys. It's what we do."

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Rank adjusted for inflation: 197

Lists: 19

Average points: 27.498

Rotten Tomatoes: 25%

 

Is this the worst film on the list? Perhaps. Perhaps not. It's certainly one with a particular sting, though. Riddled with studio interference following the backlash to Batman v SupermanSuicide Squad manages to make itself even worse by delivering an incoherent muddle with questionable editing choices, acid-washed visuals and some of the most lazily written characters in recent memory. Its perception as being worse than Batman v Superman was likely what inspired the current paranoia over the state of the DCEU. Despite critical loathing for it, it seems to be slightly better received by audiences, and it broke out to the tune of $325m domestic / $745m worldwide thanks to a killer marketing campaign. It's just a shame the actual film wasn't what we hoped it would be. 

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#175

The Poseidon Adventure (1972)

"We did ask you to fight for us but damn it, don't fight against us! Leave us alone! How many more sacrifices? How much more blood?"

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Rank adjusted for inflation: 81

Lists: 6

Average points: 87.858

Rotten Tomatoes: 79%

 

"One of the most enjoyably terrible films ever created", wrote one critic, The Poseidon Adventure is (perhaps by default) the best of the wave of 1970s disaster films that included Earthquake and Airport. The film, which centers around the S.S. Poseidon sinking as a pastor attempts to save a group of survivors, benefits from never taking itself too seriously. Like many films from the early 1970s, it's hilariously corny, but the special effects still hold up decently today. It proves that spectacle, and spectacle alone, is the one thing that can consistently sell a film - whether it's Poseidon, Armageddon, or Transformers. It was nominated for eight Oscars, winning two, and was at one point one of the six most successful films of all time. Its legacy is understated today, but still enjoyably so.

 

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10 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

I'll take it! I'm surprised how low Passion is though.

It just doesn't seem to be that popular among BOT voters. @baumer, I believe, was the only one to give it over 100 points.

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4 hours ago, angeldelmito said:

say it again bitch

 

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Hunger Games not gonna take it

Never did and never will

Hunger Games not gonna take it
Gonna break it
Gonna shake it
Let's forget it better still

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Next up, @That One Valerian's favorite film, and an old-fashioned romantic drama from the 1980s:

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#174

Beauty and the Beast (2017)

"Think of the one thing that you've always wanted. Now find it in your mind's eye and feel it in your heart."

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Rank adjusted for inflation: 86

Lists: 8

Average points: 66.763

Rotten Tomatoes: 71%

 

The most recent film to make this list is also one of the most interesting. It is a hard look at what audiences will accept - if they liked the first Beauty and the Beast 25 years ago, why won't they like this one? And the results have been astonishing. $481m domestic, $1.14b worldwide, and general acceptance (if not praise) from critics and audiences alike. It proves that Disney is currently unparalleled in terms of the brands that they have and the films that they offer to audiences - "if you build it, they will come," so to speak. Maybe it's a statement about the film industry's lack of originality today. Maybe it's just a fun movie. It all depends on your perspective.

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#173

An Officer and a Gentleman (1982)

"Oklahoma? Only TWO THINGS come outta Oklahoma, steers and queers. Which one are you boy? I don't see any horns!"

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Rank adjusted for inflation: 142

Lists: 8

Average points: 67.389

Rotten Tomatoes: 81%

 

An Officer and a Gentleman is another painfully overlooked film on this list. At its core, it's a traditional romance story, with two dynamic performances from Richard Gere and Debra Winger. It's also a tale of power, and morality, with a terrific "villain" at its center in the form of Louis Gossett, Jr., who won an Oscar for his supporting performance. Despite this, the film has been overshadowed by the rest of the (fantastic) 1982 slate - E.T., Tootsie, Porky's, Poltergeist, The Wrath of Khan, Rocky III. It's faded into obscurity not because of the film it is, but because of the films that surrounded it.

 

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On 4/29/2017 at 11:20 PM, TalismanRing said:

 

 

The King & I , Giant and Friendly Persuasion were also far more worthy.  Not to mention the criminally not nominated (for anything) The Searchers.  Also more worth non nominated - Richard III The Lady Killers, Lust For Life, The Rainmaker and on and on....  :blink:

 

 

 

Around The World in 80 Days was a huge hit & a spectacle for the film. Sure we look back on it as one of the worse best picture winners ever, but for the time I'm sure it was considered a worthy winner.

 

The Searchers should have won best picture though, but of course it wasn't nominated. 

 

On 4/30/2017 at 0:11 AM, Kalo said:

 

Aww, I really like Swiss Family Robinson, should be alot higher than garbage like Suicide Sqaud and BvS. 

 

It's definitely deserving of a higher spot then either. It's a solid family adventure, no pun intended. 

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1 hour ago, Eevin said:

Next up, @That One Valerian's favorite film, and an old-fashioned romantic drama from the 1980s:

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#174

Beauty and the Beast (2017)

"Think of the one thing that you've always wanted. Now find it in your mind's eye and feel it in your heart."

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfYpMZYI-nnFJZ6vmdH7w

Rank adjusted for inflation: 86

Lists: 8

Average points: 66.763

Rotten Tomatoes: 71%

 

The most recent film to make this list is also one of the most interesting. It is a hard look at what audiences will accept - if they liked the first Beauty and the Beast 25 years ago, why won't they like this one? And the results have been astonishing. $481m domestic, $1.14b worldwide, and general acceptance (if not praise) from critics and audiences alike. It proves that Disney is currently unparalleled in terms of the brands that they have and the films that they offer to audiences - "if you build it, they will come," so to speak. Maybe it's a statement about the film industry's lack of originality today. Maybe it's just a fun movie. It all depends on your perspective.

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#173

An Officer and a Gentleman (1982)

"Oklahoma? Only TWO THINGS come outta Oklahoma, steers and queers. Which one are you boy? I don't see any horns!"

ede352b98e356ee7b043d4bd1c130652-an-offi

Rank adjusted for inflation: 142

Lists: 8

Average points: 67.389

Rotten Tomatoes: 81%

 

An Officer and a Gentleman is another painfully overlooked film on this list. At its core, it's a traditional romance story, with two dynamic performances from Richard Gere and Debra Winger. It's also a tale of power, and morality, with a terrific "villain" at its center in the form of Louis Gossett, Jr., who won an Oscar for his supporting performance. Despite this, the film has been overshadowed by the rest of the (fantastic) 1982 slate - E.T., Tootsie, Porky's, Poltergeist, The Wrath of Khan, Rocky III. It's faded into obscurity not because of the film it is, but because of the films that surrounded it.

 

 

Ugh, that's way too low for BATB remake, sure it's pretty much a play by play remake of the original, but as Cogsworth says, if it's not broke why fix it? 

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And now we return to the list.

Next, two sequels. One, a comedy. The other, a sequel to a film already on the list.

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#172

Meet the Fockers (2004)

"Let me put it very simply. If your family's circle does indeed join my family's circle, they'll form a chain. I can't have a chink in my chain."

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Rank adjusted for inflation: 138

Lists: 16

Average points: 34.259

Rotten Tomatoes: 39%

 

Before The Hangover Part II, there was another lazy, shameless and uninspired sequel to a funny and original comedy that broke out big. That film was Meet the Fockers, one of the most successful comedies of all time. Having never seen it, I can't particularly speak to its quality, but the lackluster response to it on this forum speaks volumes. Again drawing parallels to the Hangover trilogy, the third film would see a major downturn from the first two films' numbers...nonetheless, it capped off what was a terrific 2004, filled with breakout smash sequels like Shrek 2 and Spider-Man 2. It's just a shame it ended it on such a poor note of quality.

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#171

Transformers: Dark of the Moon (2011)

"In any war, there are calms between the storms. There will be days when we lose faith, days when our allies turn against us. But the day will never come, that we forsake this planet and its people.

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Rank adjusted for inflation: 137

Lists: 12

Average points: 47.012

Rotten Tomatoes: 35%

 

Following Revenge of the Fallen, a film maligned by critics and audiences alike, it was perhaps to be expected that Transformers: Dark of the Moon would see something of a downturn in grosses. However, this is the film that truly exploded overseas, grossing $1.13b worldwide and becoming the 4th-highest-grossing film of all time. It's a reminder that the Transformers franchise, along with perhaps Pirates of the Caribbean, is one of the leading examples in how to turn a somewhat niche property into a massively successful film franchise. However, being a Transformers film, it's just simply pretty bad. Mindless spectacle can't make up for a lack of narrative structure, as we've seen on this list time and again.

 

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And finally, two last films for tonight. An awful film with a perfect lead role; a classic 1980s comedy.

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#170

How the Grinch Stole Christmas (2000)

"It's because I'm green, isn't it?"

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Rank adjusted for inflation: 113

Lists: 14

Average points: 40.754

Rotten Tomatoes: 53%

 

How the Grinch Stole Christmas is a film that helped pioneer the "star + concept" film. In this current day and age, star power may be on the decline, but there is still plenty of potential for a movie star and a high-quality concept to succeed. Take a look at some of The Rock's recent successes. But in the 1990s and early 2000s, few stars were more popular than Jim Carrey, the star of such numerous successes as Liar Liar, Batman Forever, Dumb and Dumber, and The Truman Show. And the Grinch was a role that Carrey was born to play, singlehandedly dragging the film out of the ashes of the abysmal into the realm of mediocrity. Grinch doesn't work. But it's interesting to see how it hints at the future of the star-powered blockbuster- a reality that is becoming ever truer today.

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#169

Three Men and a Baby (1987)

"Hush little baby, don't you cry. When Peter gets home, I'm gonna punch him in the eye."

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Rank adjusted for inflation: 164

Lists: 8

Average points: 73.79

Rotten Tomatoes: 74%

 

In recent years, comedies have gotten a lot more cynical. Part of it's the need to create new material instead of recycling the old - creating a comedy that's more edgy and moody is much easier than creating a comedy dripping with sentimentality and stilted dialogue. But before cynicism took over, there was Three Men and a Baby, a film that sounds like the start of a bad joke - an author, an architect, and an artist suddenly have to take care of a baby! Wow! And the thing is, if you have the stomach for it, it can actually be a pretty fun movie. Audiences certainly seemed to think so - it was the #1 film of the year. Ah, the days when box office limitations were not placed on genre!

 

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10 hours ago, Eevin said:

The best film of last year, and the best 1970s disaster film:
 

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#176

Suicide Squad (2016)

"We're bad guys. It's what we do."

Suicide_Squad_(film)_Poster.png

Rank adjusted for inflation: 197

Lists: 19

Average points: 27.498

Rotten Tomatoes: 25%

 

Is this the worst film on the list? Perhaps. Perhaps not. It's certainly one with a particular sting, though. Riddled with studio interference following the backlash to Batman v SupermanSuicide Squad manages to make itself even worse by delivering an incoherent muddle with questionable editing choices, acid-washed visuals and some of the most lazily written characters in recent memory. Its perception as being worse than Batman v Superman was likely what inspired the current paranoia over the state of the DCEU. Despite critical loathing for it, it seems to be slightly better received by audiences, and it broke out to the tune of $325m domestic / $745m worldwide thanks to a killer marketing campaign. It's just a shame the actual film wasn't what we hoped it would be. 

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#175

The Poseidon Adventure (1972)

"We did ask you to fight for us but damn it, don't fight against us! Leave us alone! How many more sacrifices? How much more blood?"

p350_p_v8_aa.jpg

Rank adjusted for inflation: 81

Lists: 6

Average points: 87.858

Rotten Tomatoes: 79%

 

One of the most enjoyably terrible films ever created, The Poseidon Adventure is (perhaps by default) the best of the wave of 1970s disaster films that included Earthquake and Airport. The film, which centers around the S.S. Poseidon sinking as a pastor attempts to save a group of survivors, benefits from never taking itself too seriously. Like many films from the early 1970s, it's hilariously corny, but the special effects still hold up decently today. It proves that spectacle, and spectacle alone, is the one thing that can consistently sell a film - whether it's Poseidon, Armageddon, or Transformers. It was nominated for eight Oscars, winning two, and was at one point one of the six most successful films of all time. Its legacy is understated today, but still enjoyably so.

 

 

I'm surprised with your write up of this one.  I thought it was a terrific film.  Why did you think it was terrible?

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