dashrendar44 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, marveldcfox said: Because that overrated filmmaker wants 200 million budget. Stupid. I don't know why GDT seems to be have a hard time grasping at the "Return Of Investment" part of the Hollywood business and still lamenting he doesn't get enough doughs to fulfill his Chibi visions ever since the ludicrous At The Mountains Of Madness shenanigans. It's also funny how his native language movies seem to be the work of an adult and all his english movies are dumbed down B-movies made with a juvenile world outlook. (Haven't seen Crimson peak). I'm feeling for Mike Mignola seeing how people are keen to jump on GDT's side acting like he created Hellboy and claimed it as his property. It's been almost 10 years since Hellboy II, GDT was holding back the property going further craving a budget he would never have obtained like a spoiled child and Mignola, the creator of the character and the stories, had to wait all this time on the sidelines watching GDT putting Hellboy on his shelves while making other movies, seeing nothing getting done and pushed forward (on top as being unsatisfied with the movies direction). How long Mignola should have waited? It was a dead end going into a wall. So, I sympathize with Mignola on that basis. Edited May 10, 2017 by dashrendar44 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I just remember pacific rim being absolute crap. Fuck GDT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macleod Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, dashrendar44 said: I don't know why GDT seems to be have a hard time grasping at the "Return Of Investment" part of the Hollywood business and still lamenting he doesn't get enough doughs to fulfill his Chibi visions ever since the ludicrous At The Mountains Of Madness shenanigans. It's also funny how his native language movies seem to be the work of an adult and all his english movies are dumbed down B-movies made with a juvenile world outlook. (Haven't seen Crimson peak). I'm feeling for Mike Mignola seeing how people are keen to jump on GDT's side acting like he created Hellboy and claimed it as his property. It's been almost 10 years since Hellboy II, GDT was holding back the property going further craving a budget he would never have obtained like a spoiled child and Mignola, the creator of the character and the stories, had to wait all this time on the sidelines watching GDT putting Hellboy on his shelves while making other movies, seeing nothing getting done and pushed forward (on top as being unsatisfied with the movies direction). How long Mignola should have waited? It was a dead end going into a wall. So, I sympathize with Mignola on that basis. Fair points. Good counterpoint to all of this. And to those who call GDT "overrated"...well...that's not really the case (keep reading!). Because he has a small cadre of hard-core fans who support anything he does, and his Spanish-language dramas are indeed viewed as artistically superior by many critics and audiences, but he's always struggled with studio back-and-forth. And the reality is, as fond as I am of his work, none of his films have really been big money-makers (especially the ones done for Hollywood). And his bigger stuff done "for Hollywood" indeed feels slightly less personal most of the time...particularly Pacific Rim and even Crimson Peak, which I felt was simply a riff on everything he's done before wrapped up in a Victorian package. So I wouldn't say he's really "overrated" by the industry...they check-and-balance him repeatedly! You also have a good point about Mignola's perspective...not that it means everything...Hollywood will do what they do. But it does sound like GDT might have been holding onto this for a while trying to get 'his version' of this made...and it was always unlikely considering the (lack of) success of the first two films (I am in fact still surprised that the second film was even made). I like both HB films a lot...but this was probably never meant to be. Edited May 10, 2017 by Macleod 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 must admit Del Toro's Beauty and the Beast likely would have been way better than the Bill Condon version 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 To this day it baffles me that Universal released Hellboy II a week before TDK when August through October of that year was outrageously dead/open. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypoofs Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 7 hours ago, Mango said: To this day it baffles me that Universal released Hellboy II a week before TDK when August through October of that year was outrageously dead/open. Yeah, probably wasn't the greatest idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incarnadine Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 The working title for now is Hellboy: Rise of the Blood Queen http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/hellboy-reboot-works-stranger-things-star-david-harbour-1001462 I was thinking of who they might cast as Liz when someone on another forum mentioned Lizzy Caplan, which would be absolutely perfect casting. I haven't been able to think of anyone else even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlborn Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/hellboy-3-is-a-reboot-real-potential-behind-movie-1001868 Article already talking about a potential cinematic universe for this. That was quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aabattery Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Neil Marshall Says His HELLBOY Will Be Bloody, R-Rated And Light On CGI http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/06/27/neil-marshall-says-his-hellboy-will-be-bloody-r-rated-and-light-on-cgi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 No GDT,no interest from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) On 6/27/2017 at 4:46 PM, aabattery said: Neil Marshall Says His HELLBOY Will Be Bloody, R-Rated And Light On CGI http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/06/27/neil-marshall-says-his-hellboy-will-be-bloody-r-rated-and-light-on-cgi Which means "I could not convince the studio to give me a decent budget". GDT walked away from Hellboy 3 because he felt the studio would not give him enough money to do it right. Edited June 29, 2017 by dudalb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 No del toro & Perlman means my interest isn't that high. Harbour is not a bad choice for Hellboy though, and neither is Neil Marshall as the director. I just wish it was done under better circumstances. 18 hours ago, dudalb said: Which means "I could not convince the studio to give me a decent budget". GDT walked away from Hellboy 3 because he felt the studio would not give him enough money to do it right. Given how both films previously performed, I can imagine the studio is reluctant to greenlight both films. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marveldcfox Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 The thing is that the creator of the comics said "fuck you" to gdt like a man after gdt announced his departure without even telling the creator. Good. He is overrated filmmaker. Except Pan's Labrynth nothing in his filmography can be said a classic oTr iconic movie. Blade 2 is a guilty pleasure and Pacific Rim is fun. Rest are all garbage. That being said, I don't think this will be any good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochofles Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 On 5/11/2017 at 1:32 PM, Incarnadine said: The working title for now is Hellboy: Rise of the Blood Queen http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/hellboy-reboot-works-stranger-things-star-david-harbour-1001462 I was thinking of who they might cast as Liz when someone on another forum mentioned Lizzy Caplan, which would be absolutely perfect casting. I haven't been able to think of anyone else even close. Sounds like great casting, but I am really curious as to who will play the Blood Queen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Hellboy II is excellent. Fuck the haters. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlborn Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 On 7/1/2017 at 7:48 AM, cookie said: Hellboy II is excellent. Fuck the haters. One of the best CBM movies ever indeed. Better than the first, which was also great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Lionsgate Eyes Hellboy: Rise of the Blood Queenhttp://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/865187-lionsgate-hellboy-rise-of-the-blood-queen#9Ju8TOsKMgoMWHw8.99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aabattery Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 https://twitter.com/THR/status/892492114449367040 I am still mad about no GDT but I love me some Ian McShane. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddeeee Posted August 2, 2017 Author Share Posted August 2, 2017 Why are they rebooting a series that never even made money despite being well received? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
