The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[FantasticBeasts]

12 minutes ago, CoolEric258 said:

https://deadline.com/2018/11/fantastic-beasts-the-crimes-of-grindelwald-could-seize-as-much-as-275m-in-global-launch-box-office-preview-1202501299/

 

 

That's pretty overoptimistic. The OS gross mostly.

[Valonqar]

Is FB opening in all markets? I know that it's opening in China.

[FantasticBeasts]

4 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

Is FB opening in all markets? I know that it's opening in China.

All except Japan.

[Valonqar]

6 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:

All except Japan.

thank you! 

[WrathOfHan]

On 11/7/2018 at 9:01 AM, WrathOfHan said:

First Man, Night School, and A Star Is Born are gone.

 

Dr. Seuss' The Grinch: 8 (4 2D/4 3D; Average x2)

The Girl in the Spider's Web: 4 (Biggest)

Overlord: 4 (Average)

 

Bohemian Rhapsody: 8 (Flat; 2nd Biggest and Average)

Halloween: 4 (Flat; 2nd Smallest)

The Hate U Give: 4 (Flat; 3rd Smallest)

Hunter Killer: 4 (Flat; 4th Smallest)

Nobody's Fool: 4 (Flat; Average)

The Nutcracker and the Four Realms: 4 (Flat and lost 3D; Average)

Venom: 3 (Down 1; Smallest x0.75)

Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween: 1 (Down 3; Smallest x0.25)

 

During the weekend, The Grinch has the biggest auditorium while Spider's Web has the second biggest. The Grinch also gets an extra screen at the expense of The Hate U Give and Hunter Killer.

 

Auditorium sizes for reference:  

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Biggest: 124 seats

2nd Biggest: 113 seats

Average: 78 seats (6 auditoriums are this size)

4th Smallest: 69 seats

3rd Smallest: 67 seats

2nd Smallest: 63 seats

Smallest: 60 seats

 

 

Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween, Halloween, and Hunter Killer are gone.

 

Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald: 4 (2 2D/2 3D; Biggest)

Instant Family: 4 (Average)
Widows: 4 (Average)

 

Dr. Seuss' The Grinch: 8 (4 2D/4 3D; Flat; 2nd Biggest and Average)

Bohemian Rhapsody: 4 (Down 4; Average)

The Girl in the Spider's Web: 4 (Flat; Smallest)

The Hate U Give: 4 (Flat; 2nd Smallest)

Nobody's Fool: 4 (Flat; 3rd Smallest)

The Nutcracker and the Four Realms: 4 (Flat; Average)

Overlord: 4 (Flat; 4th Smallest)

Venom: 3 (Flat; Average x0.75; NOTE: Robin Hood is doing early previews on Monday and taking over Venom's showtimes)

 

During the weekend, Fantastic Beasts gets two extra screens at the expense of Venom, Nobody's Fool, and THUG.

 

Auditorium sizes for reference:  

Spoiler

Biggest: 124 seats

2nd Biggest: 113 seats

Average: 78 seats (6 auditoriums are this size)

4th Smallest: 69 seats

3rd Smallest: 67 seats

2nd Smallest: 63 seats

Smallest: 60 seats

 

 

[MattW]

On 11/14/2017 at 9:49 AM, Sydney Bristow said:

Time: Tuesday, 11:30 EST

 

MovieTickets:

JL: 22,2%

Thor: 18,2%

MOTOE: 14,4%

DH2: 8,3%

BM: 7,1%

 

Pulse:

1- JL

2- Thor

3- MOTOE

4- Wonder

5- BM

 

5 min watch:

JL: 102 (20,4 p.m.)

Wonder: 13

The Star: 2

Coco: 4

 

Later that night:

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Time: Wednesday, 00:30 EST

 

MovieTickets:

Thor: 22,8%

JL: 16,7%

MOTOE: 16,2%

DH2: 10,9%

BM: 7,8%

 

Pulse:

1- JL

2- Wonder

3- Thor

4- JL 3d

5- JL imax

 

Edited November 14, 2018 by MattW

[MrGlass2]

6 hours ago, FantasticBeasts said:

Fantastic Beasts Pulse Tuesday Until 2 p.m. 5.986 tickets across all formats.

Fantastic Beasts Pulse Monday Until 2 p.m. 3.023 tickets across all formats.

Seems like a nice increase BUT, there are screenings today so that's a nice little disclaimer. If the comparison remains the same till the end of the day, it will end Tuesday with 17.734 tickets. Comparisons are above considering that @TalismanRing counts all formants and we have the same source. (http://akvalley.pythonanywhere.com/static/Fandango_track.txt)

You can see breakdown by day, tomorrow it will be easier to compare:

 

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Updated by @akvalley: 2018-11-13 21:00:31 Central
TICKETS	SHOW DATE	DAY	MOVIE
--------------------------------------------------
6598	2018-11-13	TUE	Fantastic Beasts The Crimes of Grindelwald
13	2018-11-14	WED	Fantastic Beasts The Crimes of Grindelwald
17739	2018-11-15	THU	Fantastic Beasts The Crimes of Grindelwald
17494	2018-11-16	FRI	Fantastic Beasts The Crimes of Grindelwald
13308	2018-11-17	SAT	Fantastic Beasts The Crimes of Grindelwald
5506	2018-11-18	SUN	Fantastic Beasts The Crimes of Grindelwald

 

[Porthos]

Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-2 Days and counting

[Includes Limited Showings for Tuesday]

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	124	11831	15116	21.73%

 

Total Showings Added Today:             22 (6 non reserved seating showings added)

Total Seats Added Today:               1240

Total Seats Sold Today:                    396 

 

.3043x as many tickets sold as Infinity War two days before release. (IW had 11 more days of pre-sales)

.6223x as many tickets sold as Black Panther two days before release (BP had 8 more days of pre-sales) 

.6449x as many tickets sold as Deadpool 2 two days before release (DP2 had 29 days of pre-sales compared to FB2's 30 days of pre-sales)

.7298x as many tickets sold as Solo two days before release (Solo had 20 days of pre-sales compared to FB2's 30 days of pre-sales)

.9594x as many tickets sold as JW:FK two days before release (JW:FK had 22 days of pre-sales compared to FB2's 30 days of pre-sales)

1.4339x as many tickets sold as AM&tW two days before release (AM&tW had 18 days of pre-sales compared to FB2's 30 days of pre-sales)

1.4548x as many tickets sold as Venom two days before release (Venom had 21 days of pre-sales compared to FB2's 30 days of pre-sales)

===

 

Tue/Thr Breakdown:

 

Tuesday Night Limited Engagement Seat Report: FINAL REPORT

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	6	563	1399	59.76%

 

Total Seats Sold Today:                    154

 

Thursday Night Seat Report: T-2 Days and counting:

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	118	11268	13717	17.85%

 

Total Showings Added Today:            22 (6 non reserved seating showings added)

Total Seats Added Today:               1240

Total Seats Sold Today:                    242

 

=========

 

T-2 Comps for other movies:

 

Black Panther:             766 tickets sold that day. 50.96% of all seats sold.   [5080/10359 seats left - 111 showings]

Infinity War:                691 tickets sold that day. 73.59% of all seats sold.   [3875/14671 seats left - 162 showings]

Deadpool 2:                725 tickets sold that day. 34.21% of all seats sold.   [9796/14890 seats left - 141 showings]

Solo:                           236 tickets sold that day. 33.64% of all seats sold.   [8879/13380 seats left - 135 showings]

Fallen Kingdom:          551 tickets sold that day. 25.19% of all seats sold. [10171/13595 seats left - 145 showings]

Ant-Man & the Wasp:  268 tickets sold that day. 21.03% of all seats sold.   [8605/10896 seats left - 111 showings]

Venom:                        n/a tickets sold that day. 17.72% of all seats sold. [10486/12744 seats left - 117 showings]

 

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As one can see, even though there were only six showings, 39% of tonight's sales were for the Limited Showings.  Subtract that, and the total is still very close to Solo's (242 v 236).  Not sure what to make of that, tbh.  Be interested to see if Wed/Thr daily sale total is now depressed slightly relative to Solo since these tickets are now 'already in the bank' or if they'll be more like 'extra' showings where everything gets bumped up slightly (some Thr viewers went to Tue and some F/St/Su viewers went to prime seats now available on Thur).  

 

Could make a case either way.  I suspect, and this is only a suspicion, that this isn't a complete wash, as someone who is on the fence on buying a ticket Friday versus Thursday might be swayed by a good seat being available.  Don't know if it'll be a huge factor though.

 

Be interesting to find out one way or the other. 👍

Edited November 14, 2018 by Porthos

[Brinatico]

12 hours ago, TalismanRing said:

Fandango App

Monday

Tues

Wed

Thursday

Previews/OW

 

 

Fantastic Beasts 2

8,956

 

Venom

13,602

13,818

20,867

31,569

$10m/$80.2m

 

Antman & The Wasp

6,613

5,990

11,108

$11.5m/ $75.8m

 

Jurassic World 2

9,310

12,761

23,266

$15.3m/ $148m

 

SW: Solo

13,688

15,855

28,533

$14.1m/$84.42m

 

Deadpool 2

23,134

28,896

41,212

$18.6m/$125.5m

 

Avengers: Infinity War

49,836

54,892

68,826

206,000

$39m/ $267.698m

 

 

Today FB2 sold 14,219 tickets. 

More than Venon and JW2 and near 3 times Antman

[MrGlass2]

http://akvalley.pythonanywhere.com/static/fandango_daily.txt

 

If I read this right, about 25% of tickets for Tuesday showings were sold on Tuesday:

Fantastic Beasts The Crimes of Grindelwald	2018-11-13	TUE	1662	2018-11-13
Fantastic Beasts The Crimes of Grindelwald	2018-11-13	TOTAL	6622	---

 

So that is 1662 that you might want to subtract from the number above, as far as predicting the technical "OW" goes (of course these Tuesday tickets will probably be included in the OW anyway).

 

Edited November 14, 2018 by MrGlass2

[TalismanRing]

Just now, Brinatico said:

Today FB2 sold 14,219 tickets. 

More than Venon and JW2 and near 3 times Antman

Tues FB2 had previews unlike any of the other movies. 

 

See a similar jump for ASIB for it's early Wed previews and how Wed #s were even higher than Thur #s when it had full previews.

 

A Star Is Born

9,115

11,383

22,641

21,501

[Porthos]

7 minutes ago, MrGlass2 said:

http://akvalley.pythonanywhere.com/static/fandango_daily.txt

 

If I read this right, about 25% of tickets for Tuesday showings were sold on Tuesday:

Fantastic Beasts The Crimes of Grindelwald	2018-11-13	TUE	1662	2018-11-13
Fantastic Beasts The Crimes of Grindelwald	2018-11-13	TOTAL	6622	---

 

So that is 1662 that you might want to substract from the number above, as far as predicting the technical "OW" goes (of course these Tuesday tickets will probably be included in the OW anyway).

 

I'd be shocked if they weren't. 

 

Also what's up with that Wednesday showing in there?  Some theater showing FB2 on Wed somewhere in the US?

[Brinatico]

4 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Tues FB2 had previews unlike any of the other movies. 

 

See a similar jump for ASIB for it's early Wed previews and how Wed #s were even higher than Thur #s when it had full previews.

 

A Star Is Born

9,115

11,383

22,641

21,501

No going to happen to FB2.

If you see after 9.00pm start to sell better. 

Any way I think is going to do well

[MrGlass2]

1 minute ago, Porthos said:

Also what's up with that Wednesday showing in there?  Some theater showing FB2 on Wed somewhere in the US? 

Doubt it. Pulse, akvalley tracking and/or movie theater employees are not perfect, can make mistakes.

[a2k]

7 hours ago, FantasticBeasts said:

All except Japan.

Do you know the WW multiplier FB1 had? I think it had opened in all markets except China and Japan.

[Krissykins]

1 hour ago, a2k said:

Do you know the WW multiplier FB1 had? I think it had opened in all markets except China and Japan.

Minus China and Japan I think it was a 3. If the international opening weekend was $145m like BOM says 

[Litio]

If I remember right, ASIB had huge presales, surpassing Venom hour by hour many times, so maybe this comparision is not ridiculous.

Fb2 Presales for tuesday were lower than ASIB's presales for wed, 6624 vs 7443 and ASIB did $1.4m there. Imax and 3D will help but I don't expect much higher number for FB2 tuesday. 

On the other side, FB2 has already surpassed ASIB's total presales for thursday previews.

Edited November 14, 2018 by Litio

[Cassidy]

Hi everyone!  I'm new here, first post.  What do I do to get a profile picture?

[Valonqar]

1 hour ago, Cassidy said:

Hi everyone!  I'm new here, first post.  What do I do to get a profile picture?

Profile - Upload Photo 

 

[WrathOfHan]

On 11/7/2018 at 9:19 AM, WrathOfHan said:

Fahrenheit 11/9, First Man, The Happy Prince, Indivisible, Smallfoot, and Suspiria are gone.

 

Dr. Seuss' The Grinch: 16 (13 2D/3 3D; IMAX x0.4, Dolby x0.4, Biggest x1.2, Above Average x0.6, and Average x0.6)

The Girl in the Spider's Web: 5 (Dolby x0.6 and Average x0.4)

Overlord: 5 (IMAX x0.6 and Above Average x0.4)

Beautiful Boy: 4 (Average)

Can You Ever Forgive Me?: 4 (Below Average)

Thugs of Hindostan: 4 (Below Average)

 

Nobody's Fool: 11 (Up 2; Biggest x1.8 and Average x0.2)

Bohemian Rhapsody: 9 (Down 1; Biggest and Above Average)

The Nutcracker and the Four Realms: 7 (4 2D/3 3D; Down 3; Average x1.6)

Halloween: 4 (Down 3; Smallest)

The Hate U Give: 4 (Flat; Smallest)

Hunter Killer: 4 (Flat; Smallest x0.8)

Night School: 4 (Down 1; Smallest)

A Star Is Born: 4 (Flat; Smallest)

Venom: 3 (Down 2; Smallest x0.6)

Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween: 2 (Down 3; Smallest x0.4)

Mid90s: 1 (Down 4; Smallest x0.2)

The Old Man and the Gun: 1 (Down 4; Average x0.2)

 

Auditorium sizes for reference:

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IMAX: 372 seats

Dolby: 236 seats

Biggest: 104-107 seats (4 auditoriums are this size)

Above Average: 77 seats (2 auditoriums are this size)

Average: 67-70 seats (4 auditoriums are this size)

Below Average: 51-54 seats (2 auditoriums are this size)

Smallest: 40 seats (6 auditoriums are this size)

 

 

Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween, The Hate U Give, Hunter Killer, Mid90s, Night School, The Old Man and the Gun, and Thugs of Hindostan are gone.

 

Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald: 15 (13 2D/2 3D; IMAX, Dolby, Biggest, and Average x0.25)

Instant Family: 5 (Biggest)

A Private War: 5 (Smallest)

Widows: 5 (Biggest)

Boy Erased: 4 (Smallest)

Amar Akbar Antony: 2 (Smallest x0.4)

 

Dr. Seuss' The Grinch: 16 (14 2D/2 3D; Flat; Above Average, Average x2, and Smallest x0.2)

The Nutcracker and the Four Realms: 6 (Down 1 and lost 3D; Smallest)

Bohemian Rhapsody: 5 (Down 4; Biggest)

The Girl in the Spider's Web: 5 (Flat; Average)

Halloween: 5 (Up 1; Below Average)

Nobody's Fool: 5 (Down 6; Above Average)

Overlord: 5 (Flat; Smallest)

A Star Is Born: 4 (Flat; Below Average)

Venom: 4 (Up 1; Smallest)

Beautiful Boy: 3 (Down 1; Average x0.75)

Can You Ever Forgive Me?: 2 (Down 2; Smallest x0.4)

 

During the weekend, Fantastic Beasts gets 12 extra showtimes and Widows gets two extra night shows at the expense of Venom, A Star Is Born, Halloween, and Beautiful Boy. The biggest auditoriums are basically all devoted to Beasts with a few shows for Widows, Venom, and ASIB.

 

Auditorium sizes for reference:

Spoiler

 

IMAX: 372 seats

Dolby: 236 seats

Biggest: 104-107 seats (4 auditoriums are this size)

Above Average: 77 seats (2 auditoriums are this size)

Average: 67-70 seats (4 auditoriums are this size)

Below Average: 51-54 seats (2 auditoriums are this size)

Smallest: 40 seats (6 auditoriums are this size)

 

 

Edited November 14, 2018 by WrathOfHan