The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[keysersoze123]

23 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Terminator Dark Fate (T-3)

AMC Prev - 13247/172740 $223387 805 shows +1798
Cin Prev -  4447/164214 $58662 1011 shows  +654

 

It increased better than yesterday but that was given. Still numbers are really low(PS between 2 chains below 300K). Probably will stay below 500K by end of day wednesday and then finish around 700-800K. That would mean 1.9-2.3m national previews would be the range considering how much AMC is dominating cinemark. At worst it has Gemini man numbers(1.6m).

Terminator Dark Fate (T-2)

AMC Prev - 15263/180635 $257505 892 shows +2016
Cin Prev - 5564/188109 $72598 1123 shows +1117

 

Another Meh day. I am thinking previews close to 2m at this point.

[filmlover]

According to Variety Terminator carries a budget of $185M. I really don't know how or why that happened after the performances of the last two.

[PKMLover]

23 days left till the release of Frozen 2.

I think the its presale will be available one week before the release date.

[Zakiyyah6]

26 minutes ago, filmlover said:

According to Variety Terminator carries a budget of $185M. I really don't know how or why that happened after the performances of the last two.

Because of Terminator 2. It was an epic movie with a huge budget that became a big hit and they think in order to replicate that all subsequent Terminator movies have to be giant action movies.

[The Wild Eric]

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-51 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	1	164	7,811	28,790	27.13%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 44

[keysersoze123]

Quick update on SW9

 

AMC Previews - 257363/839118 $3848094.61 5009 shows
AMC OD - 151404/1073361 $2436777.51 5242 shows

Cin Prev - 159636/437819 $2072819 3161 shows

 

OD is increasing slightly better than previews(1554 to 1363) over 24 hours(similar to yesterday). That makes sense as better show/seat combo is available for OD than previews. At some point the OD PS will exceed Previews but that wont happen until December. Cinemark is also doing slightly better than AMC. Another interesting thing about Cinemark is just over 50% of tickets is sold in Texas(no: 1 market) and California with CA having better from %sold and average ticket price. Cinemark is almost non existent in NYC area(only one theater in NY and 4-5 in NJ region). After these 2 states Ohio is the next biggest.

 

Show count increase is also quite slow with few shows being added every day. That will also continue until December.

[Porthos]

The Rise of Skywalker Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-51 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	2	193	12300	23236*	10936	47.06%

* A theater adjusted the seat map for a couple of showings resulting in a loss of four seats available overall.

 

Total Seats Sold Today

70

 

T-51 Adjusted Comp (EXTREMELY LOL - DON'T USE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

	%		Sold T-51	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
CM	474.40		59	2207		0/81	8401/10608	20.81%		98.20m
TROS (adj)	n/a		65	10470		2/193	11504/21974	47.65%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Captain Marvel

 

==

 

And the slowdown has arrived.  And it'll keep slowing down.  So let the true marathon watch begin. 👍

 

[Alex SciChannel]

How are Doctor Sleep Presales looking for October 30th? There are supposed to be Fandango early access 

[cdsacken]

will joker have another amazing drop with flopinator doing so bad? This year is crazy. Amazing successes and epic flops 

[filmlover]

1 hour ago, Alex SciChannel said:

How are Doctor Sleep Presales looking for October 30th? There are supposed to be Fandango early access 

They pulled the sales earlier but from what I saw it was close to selling out in one of the biggest theaters here.

[John2015]

The final version of Dark Fate was co-edited and approved by James Cameron.  (The rough cut was  2 hr 50 minutes)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Terminator/comments/dp71kj/james_cameron_deleted_42_minutes_from_tim_millers/

 

So after the film flops, Cameron can't distance himself from the failure. 

 

(Anyway, Cameron will get back the franchise rights in 2020; the rights will be useless then....)

[efialtes76]

49 minutes ago, John2015 said:

The final version of Dark Fate was co-edited and approved by James Cameron.  (The rough cut was  2 hr 50 minutes)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Terminator/comments/dp71kj/james_cameron_deleted_42_minutes_from_tim_millers/

 

So after the film flops, Cameron can't distance himself from the failure. 

 

(Anyway, Cameron will get back the franchise rights in 2020; the rights will be useless then....)

And the rough cut of BP was 4 hours long. 

Clickbait.

[el sid]

Counted today at 11am EST.
Terminator: Dark Fate:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 187 (total tickets sold for Thursday) / 346 (total tickets sold for Friday, 11 showtimes)
Boston (AMC Assembly Row 12): 92 / 143 (10 showtimes)
Boston (Boston Common 19): 69 / 99 (11 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 132 / 176 (11 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 38 / 22 (4 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 25 / 34 (4 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Center Point 11): 33 / 42 (4 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 359 / 513 (12 showtimes)
LA (AMC Bay Street): 141 / 174 (13 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 157 / 298 (12 showtimes)
Total tickets sold in 10 theaters till Wednesday for Thursday: 1.233 and for Friday: 1.847.
Not frontloaded at all. Actually that's the best Thursday:Friday ratio of all my so far counted movies. Somebody mentioned that on Thursday is Halloween and judging from these numbers it looks like this is indeed a factor. So I tend to lay more weight on the Friday number.
Yesterday it were 1.063 and 1.528 tickets.

Comps: H&S had on Wednesday 2.254/2.701 sold tickets. Would mean an OW of 33M (Thursday comp) and 41M (Friday comp).
AhF had on Wednesday 472/388 sold tickets. So T6 has ca. 2.5x more tickets sold for Thursday and 5x more tickets sold for Friday. If T6 is a walk up film then everything is fine despite all the doom and gloom scenario.

Still, the daily jumps were small since last Thursday. I wouldn't say that a franchise is done where the last film collected around 350M outside the USA which is still an impressive number and means that a lot of people WW still care but that this series lost a bit of its appeal in the USA is also a fact (partly due to the mediocre sequels I guess). And it was mentioned in the China forum that the lead change seems to be a factor (there) too.
But let's see. Maybe it has decent walk ups or people just wait till Friday/the weekend to see it and its Friday number isn't bad. Most (all?) here are only counting its Thursday sales and they could be way worse than the true Friday.

Edited October 30, 2019 by el sid

[Brainbug]

1 hour ago, cdsacken said:

will joker have another amazing drop with flopinator doing so bad? This year is crazy. Amazing successes and epic flops 

 

To be fair, the box office has been that way since the start of the decade. Feast or famine.

[a2k]

14 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Terminator Dark Fate (T-2)

AMC Prev - 15263/180635 $257505 892 shows +2016
Cin Prev - 5564/188109 $72598 1123 shows +1117

 

Another Meh day. I am thinking previews close to 2m at this point.

2m previews would be a disaster for Dark Fate. Will go under 30m ow with those previews. Malef2 did 2.3m previews and 37m ow (16x previews). That gives Dark Fate 32m using 2m but it should be more front-loaded than Malef2.

Edited October 30, 2019 by a2k

[Barnack]

24 minutes ago, efialtes76 said:

And the rough cut of BP was 4 hours long. 

Clickbait.

 

Clickbait and people should point to the actual article instead of a website stealing content without even having the common decency to linking who they are stealing from:

https://collider.com/james-cameron-terminator-dark-fate-interview/

[cdsacken]

9 minutes ago, a2k said:

2m previews would be a disaster for Dark Fate. Will go under 30m ow with those previews. Malef2 did 2.3m previews and 37m ow (16x previews). That gives Dark Fate 32m using 2m but it should be more front-loaded than Malef2.

Yeah thinking 14x max. I'm gonna guess 28m

[el sid]

Since Malef 2 was mentioned and I forgot it because I think  it's not the best comp: Malef2 had on Wednesday at that time 1.190/1.444 sold tickets. So where I count T6 is at the moment in front on both days. But of course Malef2 is a family film and I'm not sure if the Halloween activities are indeed such a big factor. It's just unusual that a sci-fi-action film is that much stronger on Friday than on Thursday...

[keysersoze123]

Just now, a2k said:

2m previews would be a disaster for Dark Fate. Will go under 30m ow with those previews. Malef2 did 2.3m previews and 37m ow. That gives Dark Fate 32m using 2m but it should be more front-loaded than Malef2.

Terminator Dark Fate (wednesday mid morning update)

Cin Prev - 6130/205225 $79576 1274 shows +1683
Cin OD - 12205/494905 $142613 2953 shows
AMC Prev - 16839/197817 $282761 991 shows +1576
AMC OD -  23862/606699 $396927 2913 shows

 

Didn’t @TalismanRing say this movie can have PS to OW multi of as high as 17-18? Any way looking at PS above, OD seem way better than Previews. So let us wait until friday before we doom this movie

[FlashMaster659]

TROS update from last night coming soon. Just been feeling a bit lazy today lol.