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It's gonna be interesting at small and midsize theaters next weekend...

 

My 12s have booked 2 and 3 movies already...and while they have an easy 1.5 screens to cut (Ralph/Grinch/Beasts at one and Ralph/Grinch at the other), they are gonna have to pare either a very recent open (Holmes and Watson, are you listening?:) or something like Second Act (it will be tougher at the theater with 3 booked movies b/c neither theater has any of the holiday losers - like Marwen or Mortal Engines - left)...some of the lesser Xmas openers could feel a bigger than expected pinch next weekend...and then the following one, probably everyone will feel the hit from Glass:)...

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On 1/6/2019 at 6:27 AM, MrGlass2 said:

RANK	PERCENT	TICKETS	MOVIE
1	21.267%	14608	Aquaman
2	12.085%	8301	Escape Room (2019)
3	11.054%	7593	Mary Poppins Returns (2018)
4	09.829%	6751	Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse
5	07.721%	5303	Bumblebee
Fandango Sales Past 24 Hours
Since: 2019-01-06 00:00:00 (US/Central - Chicago)

RANK	PERCENT	TICKETS	MOVIE
1	21.504%	14847	Aquaman
2	12.559%	8671	Escape Room (2019)
3	10.225%	7060	Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse
4	09.792%	6761	Mary Poppins Returns (2018)
5	08.095%	5589	Bumblebee
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Any chance On the Basis of Sex hits 10M this weekend? BOM has its TC at 2k and its PTA has been relatively strong the past few weeks. Could see a mini Hidden Figures happen and have it end with over 50M. 

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23 hours ago, MrGlass2 said:

RANK	PERCENT	TICKETS	MOVIE
1	21.504%	14847	Aquaman
2	12.559%	8671	Escape Room (2019)
3	10.225%	7060	Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse
4	09.792%	6761	Mary Poppins Returns (2018)
5	08.095%	5589	Bumblebee
Fandango Sales Past 24 Hours
Since: 2019-01-07 00:00:00 (US/Central - Chicago)

RANK	PERCENT	TICKETS	MOVIE
1	15.296%	6245	Aquaman
2	09.540%	3895	Captain Marvel (2019)
3	08.734%	3566	Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse
4	08.090%	3303	Escape Room (2019)
5	07.539%	3078	Mary Poppins Returns (2018)
6	05.966%	2436	Dragon Ball Super Broly
7	05.562%	2271	Bumblebee
8	04.269%	1743	Vice (2018)
9	03.840%	1568	The Mule (2018)
10	03.779%	1543	Captain Marvel
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BTW, by my count there's gonna be something like 57 58 days of presales for Captain Marvel.  Well, 58 and a third.

 

That is by far the longest I have tracked on a seat count, so the comps are gonna be pretty screwy in some respects.  In fact, I probably won't do any sort of compare beyond the first few days of sales [if I have that info] until much later into the run.  There's just no point to doing a like-for-like compare for something that has been on sale for three weeks but still is over a month plus away from premiering with something that's been on sale for two weeks yet premieres the next week.

 

The only one I might keep up a compare on is Infinity War, as that had 41 days of presales, which is kinda sorta close to 58.  But, then again, IW is just a different beast altogether, so perhaps not.

 

It's also possible/probable I'll shift down to a two-a-week update on the seat count after the initial rush dies down, though I'll still update on my home spreadsheet.  Might depend on just how low the tickets-per-day goes.

 

Play it by ear, in other words. Like usual. ;)

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On 1/1/2019 at 10:22 PM, WrathOfHan said:

Zero is gone.

 

Escape Room: 5 (Average)

If Beale Street Could Talk: 5 (Biggest)

Bohemian Rhapsody: 2 (Return; Smallest x0.5)

 

Aquaman: 11 (Down 1 and lost 3D; IMAX, Biggest x1.2, and Smallest x0.5)

Mary Poppins Returns: 10 (Up 1; Dolby, Biggest x0.8, and Below Average x0.67)

Bumblebee: 9 (Down 3 and lost 3D; Biggest and Above Average)

Holmes and Watson: 6 (Flat; Smallest)

The Favorite: 5 (Up 1; Average)

Mary Queen of Scots: 5 (Up 1; Smallest)

The Mule: 5 (Flat; Average)

Second Act: 5 (Flat; Smallest)

Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse: 5 (Down 5 and lost 3D; Above Average)

Vice: 5 (Up 1; Average)

Dr. Seuss' The Grinch: 4 (Flat; Smallest x0.8)

Ralph Breaks the Internet: 4 (Flat; Below Average x0.8)

Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald: 2 (Flat; Smallest x0.5)

Creed II: 1 (Down 1; Smallest x0.25)

Instant Family: 1 (Flat; Smallest x0.25)

Mortal Engines: 1 (Down 4; Smallest x0.2)

Simmba: 1 (Down 3; Below Average x0.33)

Welcome to Marwen: 1 (Down 4; Below Average x0.2)

 

Auditorium sizes for reference:

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IMAX: 372 seats

Dolby: 236 seats

Biggest: 104-107 seats (4 auditoriums are this size)

Above Average: 77 seats (2 auditoriums are this size)

Average: 67-70 seats (4 auditoriums are this size)

Below Average: 51-54 seats (2 auditoriums are this size)

Smallest: 40 seats (6 auditoriums are this size)

 

 

 

A Dog's Way Home: 5 (Below Average)

On the Basis of Sex: 5 (Biggest and Smallest x0.2)

Replicas: 5 (Average)

The Upside: 5 (Average and Smallest x0.2)

Ben Is Back: 4 (Smallest)

A Star Is Born: 4 (Return; Dolby)

 

Aquaman: 8 (Down 3; IMAX and Biggest)

Bumblebee: 5 (Down 4; Average x0.2 and Below Average)

Escape Room: 5 (Flat; Biggest)

Mary Poppins Returns: 5 (Down 6; Average and Smallest x0.2)

Ralph Breaks the Internet: 5 (Up 1; Smallest)

Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse: 5 (Flat; Biggest)

The Favourite: 4 (Down 1; Smallest)

If Beale Street Could Talk: 4 (Down 1; Above Average)

Mary Queen of Scots: 4 (Down 1; Smallest)

The Mule: 4 (Down 1; Smallest)

Vice: 4 (Down 1; Above Average)

Bohemian Rhapsody: 2 (Flat; 1 2D/1 Sing A Long; Average x0.4)

Holmes and Watson: 2 (Down 4; Smallest x0.4)

Second Act: 2 (Down 3; Average x0.4)

Dr. Seuss' The Grinch: 1 (Down 3; Smallest x0.2)

 

During the weekend, A Dog's Way Home pushes Spider-Verse out of one of the biggest auditoriums, and Escape Room gets extra shows from Mary Queen of Scots.

 

Auditorium sizes for reference:

Spoiler


IMAX: 372 seats

Dolby: 236 seats

Biggest: 104-107 seats (4 auditoriums are this size)

Above Average: 77 seats (2 auditoriums are this size)

Average: 67-70 seats (4 auditoriums are this size)

Below Average: 51-54 seats (2 auditoriums are this size)

Smallest: 40 seats (6 auditoriums are this size)

 

 

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On 1/8/2019 at 6:23 AM, MrGlass2 said:

RANK	PERCENT	TICKETS	MOVIE
1	15.296%	6245	Aquaman
2	09.540%	3895	Captain Marvel (2019)
3	08.734%	3566	Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse
4	08.090%	3303	Escape Room (2019)
5	07.539%	3078	Mary Poppins Returns (2018)
Fandango Sales Past 24 Hours
Since: 2019-01-08 00:00:00 (US/Central - Chicago)

RANK	PERCENT	TICKETS	MOVIE
1	15.783%	10176	Aquaman
2	09.818%	6330	Captain Marvel (2019)
3	09.762%	6294	Escape Room (2019)
4	07.836%	5052	Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse
5	05.951%	3837	Bumblebee
6	05.486%	3537	Mary Poppins Returns (2018)
7	04.903%	3161	Dragon Ball Super Broly
8	04.442%	2864	The Mule (2018)
9	04.261%	2747	Vice (2018)
10	03.826%	2467	Captain Marvel
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Captain Marvel Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-58 Days and counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

63

7206

8704

17.21%

 

Total Seats Sold Today:      1498 (Includes tickets on sale a few hours yesterday)

 

.3213x as many tickets sold as Infinity War after one day of pre-sales.

.7620x as many tickets sold as Black Panther after nine days of pre-sales [I do not have info for the first eight days of pre-sales for BP]

.8750x as many tickets sold as Deadpool 2 after nine-plus days of pre-sales [I do not have info for the first eight days of pre-sales for DP2] [Some theaters went on sale early for DP2, allowing for a stronger reported 'first day' of sales]

.5696x as many tickets sold as Solo after one day of pre-sales. 

2.5176x as many tickets sold as JW:FK after one day of pre-sales.
2.2835x as many tickers sold as FB2 after one day of pre-sales. [some theaters went on sale early for FB2, allowing for a stronger reported 'first day' of sales]

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I think I'll keep up the comps for all of these films for about a week or so, then drop them all except for possibly Infinity War next Thursday until much closer to release night.  The first week of sales should be a decent enough benchmark despite the wide disparity of release pattens.  Still including the BP and DP2 sale info right now, even though I don't have the first week-plus of sales, as they might be the best comps at the moment.

 

The interesting, but probably not surprising thing this far out, is that I don't have any info for a couple of theaters that I expect to get Captain Marvel. Others only have a very partial schedule up and I expect them to fill out in the weeks to come, so that number of showings will go up dramatically.  Also, I now have reserved seating information for yet another theater complex in Sacramento (Century Greenback) where before I only had sellout information. It'll be interesting to see how that theatre compares to others in the region, now that I can get like for like info on it finally.

 

Overall a strong start.  We'll see just how strong of a start in the coming days.

 

Naturally, with the exceedingly long period of ticket sales, the pace per day is gonna drop through the floor for a looooooong time (yes, it did even for IW).  What I'm interesting in seeing is the compare and contrast in just how low the per-day gets and how many tickets are still sold in the 'fallow' period.

 

Should be fun to find out. :)

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19 minutes ago, fabiopazzo2 said:

IW is another type of monster, the best comp is BP but for me Captain Marvel has 0 chance to pass T'challa 

I'm mostly looking for the percentage based comps when it comes to both IW and BP, not if Captain Marvel can approach Black Panther. Personally I'm with you with thinking it is exceedingly unlikely, if only because of unique circumstances surrounding BP.

 

But at the same time, comps on a percentage base are probably the best when it comes to BP (Marvel solo movie that introduces [for the most part] a character at the beginning of the year) and perhaps to a lesser extent DP2 (mega CBM movie that had 18.6m on its preview night).  Curious to see how much better it does than DP2, if it does indeed do better (DP2 not having 3D hurt it, IMO).

 

Also the asymmetric jump BP had toward the end starting when the world premiere happened was wild, even for a Marvel movie.  So the comps can only go so far (unless Captain Marvel has a similar O-M-G buzz out of its world premiere). 

 

Still, data is data.  Just don't expect too much out of it. ;)

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Spoiler

Fandango App Monday Tues Wed Thursday
         
A Wrinkle In Time   4,864   15,601
A Quiet Place 2,177 4,003 10,665  
Blockers 504 1,106 2,931  
Rampage 705 1,508 4,109  
Truth Or Dare 385 760 2,133  
Super Troopers 2,825 3,447 6,881  
I Feel Pretty 871 1,610 4,423  
Avengers: Infinity War 49,836 54,892 68,826 206,000
Overboard 84 409 1,044  
Breaking In 727 1204 2,899  
Life Of The Party 587 1,310 3,010  
Deadpool 2 23,134 28,896 41,212  
Show Dogs 6 128 369  
Book Club 836 1,599 3,283  
SW: Solo 13,688 15,855 28,533  
Action Point 17 48 197  
Upgrade 9 119 522  
Adrift 63 308 1,268  
Oceans 8 3,009 4,372 11,114  
Hereditary 659 1,178 3,181  
Hotel Artemis 26 166 520  
Incredibles 2 20,872 23,430 39,337  
Tag 314 660 1,448  
Jurassic World 2 9,310 12,761 23,266  
Sicario 2 788 1,282 3,403  
Uncle Drew 274 473 1,201  
Antman & The Wasp 6,613 5,990 11,108  
Purge (Wed) 2,885 8,308    
Hotel Transylvania 3 1,753 2,674 6,605 14,754
Skyscraper 586 1,019 2,868 7,134
Mamma Mia 2 4,427 5,099 12,117 17,226
Equalizer 1,418 2,297 6,073 11,875
Unfriended   71 240 975
MI6   *3328 13,575 27,261
Teen Titans   *462 2,125 4,526
Christopher Robin 1,560 2,442 5,355 11,509
The Spy Who Dumped Me 234 542 1,561 4,222
The Darkest Minds 130 244 579 1,777
Eighth Grade (1K expansion) 494 508 720 936
Death of A Nation 148 194 375 1,239
The Meg 1,539 2,944 6,723 16,202
Slender Man 177 418 1,091 3,737
BlackkKlansman 432 682 1,934 5,017
Dog Days (Wed) 115 631 1,536 1,212
Crazy Rich Asians (Wed) 3,651 5,742 20,173 20,102
Alpha 181 283 943 2,069
Mile 22 282 519 1,833 5,200
Happytime Murders 382 *488 1,954 5,602
A.X.L. 32 *60 310 911
Kin 21 141 263 741
Operation Finale (Wed) 415 2,083 4,879 3,915
Searching 303 588 1,194 2,862
The Nun 2,082 5,938 13,806 28,881
Peppermint 286 863 2,508 4,441
God Bless The Broken Road 6 33 152 282
Predator 1,295 2,476 4,545 13,063
A Simple Favor 564 2,126 4,410 10,381
White Boy Rick 136 567 1,458 4,587
Unbroken 2 88 180 360 659
House With Clocks 897 1469 3607 8,074
Fahrenheit 11/9 164 281 713 1,715
Life Itself 79 162 394 953
Assassination Nation   36 94 382
Night School 1,045 1,756 3,566  
Smallfoot 734 1,261 2,448  
Hellfest 195 304 661  
Little Women   65 134  
Venom 13,602 13,818 20,867 31,569
A Star Is Born 9,115 11,383 22,641 21,501
First Man 654 909 3,610 7,586
Goosebumps 2 300 631 1,733 3,615
Bad Times at the El Royale 264 481 1,257 3,350
Halloween 9,563 12,890 21,600 36,126
The Hate U Give (2K expansion) 1,026 1,542 1,559 2,055
Hunter Killer 91 368 1,062 2,726
Indivisible 33 89 204 440
Bohemian Rhapsody 7,255 9,026 12,546 26,476
Nutcracker 1,659 1,949 2,567 5,518
Nobody's Fool 436 900 1,719 4,437
The Grinch 3,580 4,860 10,092 17,046
Spider's Web 286 718 1,735 3,554
Overlord 299 604 1,599 4,522
Fantastic Beasts 8,956 14,238 21,861 31,880
Widows 310 868 2,219 4,179
Instant Family 230 565 1,325 2,584
Ralph 2 (Wed) 7,005 12,131 19,183 15,559
Creed II (Wed) 6,712 12,083 15,354 15,870
Robin Hood (Wed) 1,602 1,846 2,621 2,632
Green Book (Wed) (1K expansion) 387 922 1,701 2,268
Possession of Hannah Grace 105 285 893 3,053
Mortal Engines 465 785 1,504 3,475
The Mule 791 1,779 3,882 6,235
Spider-Verse 3,715 5,208 9,858 19,972
Once Upon A Deadpool (Wed) 1,732 3,402 3,621 2,310
Mary Poppins (Wed) 7,713 9,137 16,304  
Aquaman 8,502 9,671 15,063  
Bumblebee 1,553 1,817 3,157  
Second Act 353 611 1,204  
Marwen 299 403 658  
Escape Room 111 368 1,543 7,297
Dogs Way Home 259 623    
Replicas 21 133    
Upside 394 1,431    
*4pm-12am        

 

 

 

Dogs Way Home 259 623
Replicas 21 133
Upside 394 1,431

 

 

Dog's Tuesday is

487% of Show Dogs': 29.3M

23% of Hotel Transylvania 3's: 10.3M

42% of House w/ Clock's: 11.3M

49% of Smallfoot's: 11.4M

99% of Goosebumps 2's: 15.6M

110% of Instant Family's: 16M

 

Replicas' Tuesday is:

112% of Upgrade's: 5.2M

80% of Hotel Artemis': 2.6M

187% of Unfriended 2's: 6.8M

94% of Kin's: 2.9M

36% of Hunter Killer's: 2.4M

 

Upside's Tuesday is:

88% of I Feel Pretty's: 14.2M

109% of Life of the Party's: 19.5M

89% of Book Club's: 12.1M

883% of Life Itself's: 18.8M

81% of Night School's: 22.2M

159% of Nobody's Fool's: 21.8M

234% of Second Act's (X-Mas): 15.2M

 

With Dog and Replicas, it's easy to find good comps. Upside is a little tricky. I was going for star-driven comedies, but this is also a dramedy, and it's hard to find any recent examples within that genre, apart from maybe Life Itself (well, it's an unintentional dramedy ya kna i mean). Either way, it seems like if any of this weekend's new releases sees a breakout, it should be Upside.

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Dogs Way Home looks good for 14-15M or so. I think Goosebumps and IF are pretty good comps for this one. 

Replicas I never thought would go above 3-3.5M so these comps don't surprise me. 

Upside is looking actually pretty strong. I was originally thinking 10-11M but 14-15 could happen, challenging Dog for #1 opener. 

 

Anything for On the Basis of Sex @CoolEric258? I think that one was semi-breakout potential and could top 10M this weekend. 

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5 minutes ago, DAJK said:

Dogs Way Home looks good for 14-15M or so. I think Goosebumps and IF are pretty good comps for this one. 

Replicas I never thought would go above 3-3.5M so these comps don't surprise me. 

Upside is looking actually pretty strong. I was originally thinking 10-11M but 14-15 could happen, challenging Dog for #1 opener. 

 

Anything for On the Basis of Sex @CoolEric258? I think that one was semi-breakout potential and could top 10M this weekend. 

It's always a bit hard to do comps for expansions, but I'll try.

 

On the Basis (2K expansion) 537 1,043

 

Basis' Tuesday is:

205% of Eighth Grade's 1K theater expansion: 5.8M

68% of Hate U Give's 2K theater expansion: 5.1M

113% of Green Book's 1K theater expansion (Wed. opening): 6.2M

 

I know people may argue "what about x and y as comps?" But I believe that when it comes to tracking movies like On the Basis, which opened in limited and is expanding to a large amount of theaters, you can't compare it to say First Man or Widows. Those movies don't have the movie playing in theaters to inflate their ticket grosses. Eighth Grade and Hate U Give and the like have.

 

I guess this makes 10M iffy, but Wednesday is still to come, and we don't have much to work off either way.

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big jumps Tuesday after good drops on Monday.  

good during political climate with govt. shutdown, might see light holds this weekend w/ holdovers & a repeat with top 5 films in double digits

dunno how pre-sales are with Glass, opens in 8 days, no reason why the 3rd weekend in Jan. could plummet

NFL playoffs seemed to affect Sat+Sun, 4 games are on Sat+Sun

curious how Europe is doing compared to past years, Aquaman's success makes it seem like next VFX tentpole should have high demand

hoping Netflix will add more movie customers at theaters, advertising probably always has most control to direct movie awareness to people

Netflix customers probably prefer Netflix over tv/cable bc of no commercials and will continue to stray from tv/cable to recordings and Netflix and movie theaters

perhaps regular TV viewing #s will decline like music industry and different media platforms will take over

 

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