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Posted by Porthos,

Really depends on what you're looking for, but usually the most important takeaway for just a casual glance is the comp.  More on that in a bit.   But even that is highly dependent on a movie being either in a similar genre or having a similar pre-sale pattern as folks will buy tickets at different times during a pre-sale window thanks to a very long list of factors.   Add in that movies will have different promotional schedules during their pre-sales (review embargoes, TV ca
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MODERATION:   Hi, everyone. It’s 6 o’clock in the morning. I have not gone to bed yet. And I am tired. And I know it’s going to be a very long weekend. Here is the new rule.   This thread is for numbers and data. Please post your theater updates. Please post your comparable data. And please talk about that comparable data here.    If you wish to do a deep dive on why you think that data might or might not suck, then take it to the respective thread of the movie in ques
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1 minute ago, Porthos said:

Avengers: Endgame Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-7 Days and counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Perct Sold

TOTALS

18

243

5107

24576

79.22%

    

EG (adj*):              175 tickets sold today       [18 sellouts/243 showings | 3882/20133 seats left  | 80.72% sold]

EG (exact**):           165 tickets sold today       [18 sellouts/217 showings | 3454/17920 seats left  | 80.73% sold]

Have to say, this is pretty amazingly consistent on all three cases when it comes to percentage of seats sold on Thursday.   Especially the latter two ones. 

 

Gonna be curious to see how close all three measurements are when all is said and done.

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Avengers: Endgame: AMC Burbank 16 - Thursday Night

 

Opening Night Fan Event

 

5:00 PM - 187/187 SOLD OUT

 

IMAX 2D

 

7:30 PM - 342/348

11:30 PM - 333/348

 

Dolby Cinema

 

6:00 PM - 270/273

10:00 PM - 267/273

1:55 AM - 257/273

 

PRIME 3D

 

6:30 PM - 217/228

10:30 PM - 212/228

2:30 AM - 94/228

 

RealD 3D

 

8:00 PM - 263/298

9:30 PM - 147/187

12:15 AM - 76/187

 

2D

 

6:45 PM - 175/187

6:50 PM - 187/187 SOLD OUT

7:15 PM - 448/505

8:15 PM - 156/187

8:30 PM - 263/298

9:15 PM - 158/187

10:45 PM - 146/187

11:00 PM - 144/187

11:15 PM - 384/505

12:00 AM - 210/298

12:30 AM - 133/298

1:15 AM - 34/187

1:30 AM - 19/187

 

Total

 

5122/6458 (79.3%)

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More amazing Endgame numbers today and always fantastic to get a @Deep Wangupdate. Thanks to all who provide them.

 

Here are some updated Pikachu comps for anyone who is interested...

 

Detective Pikachu

 

First 9 days

52.1% of Incredibles 2 (95.2m)

560% of Grinch (378m)

1826% of Hotel Transylvania 3 (805m)

511% of Dragon 3 (281m)

121% of Shazam (65m)

 

Last 7 days

62.2% of Incredibles 2 (113.7m)

315% of Grinch (213.3m)

171% of Dragon 3 (94.1m)

 

Cumulative

39% of Incredibles (71.26m)

230% of Dragon 3 (126.4m)

 

 

A couple are still way out there but some of these numbers are on their way to looking more sensible and consistent now and I feel like in a week or so a much clearer picture will emerge.

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Detective Pikachu Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-21 Days and counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

72

7654

8009

4.43%

 

Total Seats Sold SInce Sun:                   72

 

I don't have any good comps like Incredibles 2, so these will have to do.  Use with caution:

 

.3832x as many tickets sold as Fallen Kingdom 21 days before release.           [JW2 had 22 days of pre-sales while Pika Pika has 29]

.2484x as many tickets sold as Crimes of Grindelwald 21 days before release. [FB2 had 30 days of pre-sales while Pika Pika has 29]

NOTE: If a theater locally that is now selling tickets for reserved seating was selling them for the above movies, but as non-reserved seating for that movie, it is not counted toward the ratio of 'as many tickets sold' for the movie in question.  If a theater is brand new to the region and wasn't yet open for one of the above movies, however, it will be counted toward the ratio.  It will also be counted toward the ratio if it was playing in a different number of theaters locally.

 

JW2 (T-21)             775  tickets sold in that time period [0 sellouts/97 showings     |   9338/10113 seats left  |  7.66% sold]

Pika (JW adj)* (T-21)     56  tickets sold in that time period [0 sellouts/72 showings     |    6665/6962 seats left   |  4.27% sold]

FB2 (T-21)              184 tickets sold in that time period [0 sellouts/94 showings     |  12105/13377 seats left |  9.51% sold] 

Pika (FBadj)** (T-21)      71 tickets sold in that time period [0 sellouts/72 showings    |    7159/7475 seats left    |  4.23% sold]    

*  Pika (JW adj) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Fallen Kingdom

**Pika (FB adj) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Crimes of Grindelwald

 

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Next Update: Sunday Night (4/21).

 

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A slightly different update this time.  This is just the VMAX sessions at Event George St.  There's basically 8 sessions per day for the first 5 days all at exactly the same time each day with 2 exceptions.  There's a 12:40am late session on the opening day and the 6pm session on the Friday is missing.  I'm going to leave out the the 12:40am (It was added late and still has 253 seats available) and assume the 6pm session on Friday is a booking of the whole theatre showing Endgame.

 

This is basically showing the level of VMAX sales over the first 5 days.  Capacity is 3132.

 

Date-#sold-%sold

24th-2934-93.7%

25th-1837-58.7%

26th-1422-45.4%

27th-774-24.7%

28th-412-13.2%

 

Overall that's 7379 out of 15660 seats sold over the first 5 days.

 

40% of presales are for the first day and 60% are for days 2-5.

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2 hours ago, captainwondyful said:

Lincoln Center - AEG Opening Weekend

Day Sold Available Percentage
Thursday 4361 4766 91.50
Friday 6030 8372 72.02
Saturday 5196 7732 67.20
Sunday 4029 7732 52.10
Total 19616 28602 68.58

 

Full Chart:

 

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Notes:

- Thursday added two showings (additional 400 seats) which pulled the percentage down to only 91.50%.

- A couple of the individual showings lost seats, but the overall tickets sold increased by 1771 ticket.

Insane to think that it's sold 4300+ seats for Thursday night.

But then looking at Empire 25, it's sold over 6000+ for Thursday night at this point. This is doing insane previews!
Do you think they will be able to squeeze in a few more showings at Lincoln? 

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On 4/18/2019 at 11:21 AM, Porthos said:

Reserved Seating Information:  214/243 theaters

 

Smallest auditorium:  25 seats

Largest auditorium: 376 seats

 

Average auditorium: 115 seats (rounded)

Median auditorium:    94 seats

Mode auditorium:     110 seats

 

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Number of screenings 300+ seats (w/reserved seating info):         6

Number of screenings 200-299 seats (w/reserved seating info):  15

Number of screenings 150-199 seats (w/reserved seating info):  34
Number of screenings 100-149 seats (w/reserved seating info):  47

Number of screenings     75-99 seats (w/reserved seating info):  53 

umber of screenings       50-74 seats (w/reserved seating info):  35

Number of screening  under 50 seats (w/reserved seating info):  24

 

(note: I never keep track of DBOX screenings [which are listed separately on Fandango] - I manually adjusted a couple of screenings above to reflect those seats that I don't track)

((second note: I also do not keep track of wheelchair slots or wheelchair assistant seating - I have NOT adjusted the screenings above to reflect those seats))

 

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That 25 seat auditorium is an incredible outlier (the theater in question has a bit of a history behind it, which I just learned about recently).  Most of them are in the 80 to 120 range.  Not that small, really.  Most of them are luxury recliners of some sort or another after all.   With what could be called a 'mid-range' screen, I suppose.

 

It does get smaller once it drops below the 80s.

 

There's also a bit of a drag on the seat count with one chain which does the dinner and a movie thing.  It only has 30 to 45 seats available. Not sure about the screen size, however. 

 

Put in a chart of sorts, as you can see, so you can get a sense of the seat spread. :)

That are a lot of small screens that are showing a superhero movie.

Was just surprised as in the closest city for me (in Germany) only the three cinemas owned by chains are showing it, okay, they all have normal seats (or maybe about 5-10% better seats).

the one I normally go to has 11 screens with 166, 166, 280, 578, 305, 175, 175, 322, 425, 425, 322 seats.

One of the two others has 10 screens with 228, 260, 280, 138, 92, 454, 288, 348, 505, 288 seats (those have between 10 and 20 better seats)

And the third one has 11 screens with 426, 606, 425, 143, 143, 143, 147, 234, 234, 143, 143 seats.

So out of 32 screens just one is below 135 seats.

 

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Through 5 updates, Endgame sits at 3294 on Pulse. This is notable as yesterday it was at 2611 through 5 updates. Why is it notable?

 

Because on the same comparative days for IW last year, it dropped over 20% from Thursday to Friday. 

 

Obviously it will probably falter as the day goes on, but it’s a good start to the morning.

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4 hours ago, VanillaSkies said:

Insane to think that it's sold 4300+ seats for Thursday night.

But then looking at Empire 25, it's sold over 6000+ for Thursday night at this point. This is doing insane previews!
Do you think they will be able to squeeze in a few more showings at Lincoln? 

 

AMC Empire 25 sold 6031 ticket for Thursday as of 4/6/2019, according to my late update. I assume it’s jumped. I probably will slog through those numbers today to get a new 25 update. 

 

Lincoln Center is a 13 screen theater. Currently 9 screens are scheduled for AEG on Thursday.  An additional screen is devoted to the 22 Movie Marathon starting on Tuesday; which is 100% sold out, bless those fools’ hearts. 

 

It’s really early, so my groggy self isn’t going to slog through all of the tracking to find who said it, but it has been said in the tread that due to scheduling/contractual issues the theaters can’t be like “lol AEG or bust” until Thursday.

 

I suspect that once Thursday rolls around, those other three screens will also be showing AEG. When you check the Atom App, Lincoln Center Only has AEG showing for their Thursday. 

 

ETA: 

 

The real issue was Lincoln Center, in my opinion, is that all of the premium screens are sold. Even the ones that are like 95% sold are down to wheelchair spots only, so, basically a sell out. (ADA and 3D are basically the only thing left.)

 

If I knew that, I would probably be trying to go to Empire 25 to see if there was a better screen. Or I am just waiting  until next week when the iMAX screen has seats available. 

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1 minute ago, Cappoedameron said:

Two big flops for Disney? Sorry I don't understand any of this data but that's not the comparison I want for DP.

Comparisons are about how something plays, not the size of it.

 

And if you don’t understand the data, maybe it’s best to just look and not comment lest people think you’re a fool.

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1 minute ago, Cappoedameron said:

Two big flops for Disney? Sorry I don't understand any of this data but that's not the comparison I want for DP.

I think @Nova meant as in they are both live action PG family friendly films. While I’m sure Pikachu will open higher than both, the comparison makes some since as they would skew older than traditional animated films in terms of presales. Beast as a comp wouldn’t really work as that was a presale monster due to the female fan base or Jungle Book as it is too long ago.

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14 minutes ago, captainwondyful said:

 

Lincoln Center is a 13 screen theater. Currently 9 screens are scheduled for AEG on Thursday.  An additional screen is devoted to the 22 Movie Marathon starting on Tuesday; which is 100% sold out, bless those fools’ hearts. 

 

OMG!

 

I thought this was a joke!
That marathon is actually a real thing?!?!

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1 hour ago, Nova said:

I will probably look into it during my study break but other comps for Detective Pikachu could be Dumbo and Christopher Robin. 

Long standing brand name that plays for children but also appeals to adults.  Not bad.  Though DP will probably have a stronger teen and young male audience b/c of Reynolds.

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In my honest opinion, Spider-Verse, Dumbo, Incredibles 2 and Shazam all seem like good comparisons as they skewed older for family films and had stronger presales. Venom or Ant Man and The Wasp can also work (for me at least) as both had low presales at my Cinema.

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1 minute ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:

In my honest opinion, Spider-Verse, Dumbo, Incredibles 2 and Shazam all seem like good comparisons as they skewed older for family films and had stronger presales. Venom or Ant Man and The Wasp can also work (for me at least) as both had low presales at my Cinema.

Actually now that I think about Dragon 3 can also really work. That said I think Pikachu will open higher than all of them barring Incredibles 2.

 

I sort of like Incredibles 2 ticket comparisons the best as they have some similarities. High social media/trailer buzz, plays towards the nostalgic crowd, and it’s first major family movie in a while. The only problem is I2 is animated which cause presales to be a bit more deflated, then again it was a hyped up sequel. Shazam is also my second favorite but as it is PG-13, it was limited to truly benefiting from families as a PG film or an animated film. I sort of like Dumbo and Christopher Robin and they make a lot of sense, though I imagine the female audience was more prominent ergo higher sales.

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