The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Minnale101]

Looking forward to Sunday to see if rocketman previews tommorow help escalate pre sales 

 

Rated R movie with good wom. Should do wonders in pre sales 

[Mulder]

8 hours ago, Mulder said:

First count of today, only Thursdays-

Godzilla: KoTM-119 (+5), 8 screenings (3 IMAX, 3 3D, 2 Regular)

Aladdin-101 (+4), 7 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 3D, 2 Regular+Fan Screening) Final week

Dark Phoenix-56 (+1), 7 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 3D, 2 Regular+Fan Screening)

 

Good for Godzilla and Aladdin finally crossed 100 tickets.

Final count of today, only Thursdays-

Godzilla: KoTM-120 (+6), 8 screenings (3 IMAX, 3 3D, 2 Regular)

Aladdin-101 (+4), 7 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 3D, 2 Regular+Fan Screening) Final week

Dark Phoenix-60 (+5), 6 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 3D, 2 Regular+Fan Screening)

 

Not great for Aladdin, there's still a showing for it with no tickets sold. I'm honestly not seeing this big growth a lot of people are. Maybe it's just my theater being weird but.....  Good for KoTM and DP though. 

[Mulder]

On 5/17/2019 at 12:07 AM, Mulder said:

FFH midnight showings-

FFH-63 (+1), 3 screenings (1 IMAX, 1 3D, 1 Regular)

 

Despite being slow in all seriousness, a pure midnight selling this well this early is honestly impressive tbh.

FFH midnight showings-

FFH-66 (+3), 3 screenings (1 IMAX, 1 3D, 1 Regular)

[Cap]

Aladdin - Rocketman - Godzilla - Dark Phoenix - Pets 2

Thursday Previews

 

Lincoln Square 13
	5.1	5.3	5.6	5.8	5.1	5.13	5.15	5.17	Total	%	+ Sold	+ Seats
Aladdin	277	325	363	388	412	481	543	545	1554	35.07%	2	0
Rocketman	--	--	--	122	133	150	160	182	594	30.64%	22	0
Godzilla	--	--	--	--	434	567	618	646	2122	30.44%	28	0
Dark Phoenix	--	--	--	--	--	479	612	694	1554	44.66%	82	0
Pets 2	--	--	--	--	--	--	--	9	297	3.03%	9	297

 

Southern Maine Cinemagic (Three Theater Chain)
	5.1	5.3	5.6	5.8	5.1	5.13	5.15	5.17	Total	%	+ Sold	+ Seats
Aladdin	0	4	10	6	6	11	16	22	1336	1.64%	6	0
Rocketman	—	—	—	4	4	4	4	4	1160	0.34%	0	0
Godzilla	—	—	—	—	—	15	22	26	1316	1.97%	4	0
Dark Phoenix	—	—	—	—	—	0	2	2	962	0.21%	0	0

 

• SLOP2 has tickets available but none sold at Cinemagic Chain.  Will officially add to the chart on Monday.

 

[McClintonforThree]

On 5/16/2019 at 9:48 PM, McClintonforThree said:

 

 

 

On 5/16/2019 at 9:48 PM, McClintonforThree said:

Only Thursdays

Orange Park AMC

Aladdin - 118 (+8), 8 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 1 3D, 2 Regular, 1 Fan Event)

Godzilla KOTM - 92 (+6), 7 screenings (2 IMAX, 1 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 81 (+6), 8 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular, 1 Fan Event)

 

The fan screenings are really powering Dark Phoenix right now.

Regency AMC

Aladdin - 182 (+21), 8 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular)

Godzilla KOTM - 121 (+8), 10 screenings (3 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 3 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 100 (+13), 8 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular, 1 Fan Event)

Only Thursdays

Orange Park AMC

Aladdin - 135 (+18), 8 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 1 3D, 2 Regular, 1 Fan Event)

Godzilla KOTM - 104 (+12), 7 screenings (2 IMAX, 1 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular)

SLOP2 - 0 (0), 2 screenings (2 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 84 (+3), 8 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular, 1 Fan Event)

 

Decided to do Secret Life of Pets too. Are children's films supposed to have horrendous pre-sales? Probably cause there are no premium screenings?

Regency AMC

Aladdin - 202 (+20), 8 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular)

Godzilla KOTM - 128 (+7), 10 screenings (3 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 3 Regular)

SLOP2 - 2 (+2), 5 screenings (2 3D, 3 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 108 (+8), 8 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular, 1 Fan Event)

[Mulder]

On 5/11/2019 at 12:04 AM, Mulder said:

Final count of today, only Thursdays-

Godzilla: KoTM-56 (+9), 8 screenings (3 IMAX, 3 3D, 2 Regular), First Day

Aladdin-81 (+12), 7 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 3D, 2 Regular+Fan Screening)

John Wick-109 (+6), 4 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 Regular), Final week

 

Everything did really good today. KoTM literally out opened Aladdin by more then double it's number. Not all bad for Aladdin though as it finally got a massive sales boost today after being dead quiet the past few days. John Wick also did really well, hoping to see a bump sooner rather then later. In total today KoTM sold a great 56 tickets, Aladdin sold 12, and John Wick sold 6.

 

1 hour ago, Mulder said:

Final count of today, only Thursdays-

Godzilla: KoTM-120 (+6), 8 screenings (3 IMAX, 3 3D, 2 Regular)

Aladdin-101 (+4), 7 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 3D, 2 Regular+Fan Screening) Final week

Dark Phoenix-60 (+5), 6 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 3D, 2 Regular+Fan Screening)

 

Not great for Aladdin, there's still a showing for it with no tickets sold. I'm honestly not seeing this big growth a lot of people are. Maybe it's just my theater being weird but.....  Good for KoTM and DP though. 

This was John Wick's 6th day before previews vs Aladdin's. Not only did John Wick sell more but it was further along. If I'm using John Wick as a comp, Aladdin's 3 day is going to be in the 50s/low 60s.

Edited May 18, 2019 by Mulder
Wrong word

[Mulder]

Also gotta say rather interestingly idk if it's maybe because of the lower amount of pre-sale days but KoTM is ahead of where Wick was by a decent margin despite being 13 days out vs 6.

[Porthos]

Aladdin Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-6 Days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	74	9457	10718	11.77%

 

Total Seats Sold Today:                      86

 

The best comp I have so far is Detective Pikachu.  I also have less ideal comps with JW2 and FB2.  Use the later comps with caution.

 

Unadjusted Comps

1.2314x as many tickets sold as Detective Pikachu 6 days before release. 

PRE-SALES NOTE:  [Pika Pika had 29 days of pre-sales while Aladdin had 24]

 

T-6:

Pika:      82  tickets sold  [0 sellouts/62 showings   |  6440/7464 seats left   | 13.72% sold]

 

Adjusted Comps

.5527x as many tickets sold as Fallen Kingdom 6 days before release.

.4777x as many tickets sold as Crimes of Grindelwald 6 days before release.

PRE-SALES NOTE: JW2 had 22 days of pre-sales and FB2 had 30 days of pre-sales while Aladdin had 24.

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: If a theater locally that is now selling tickets for reserved seating was selling them for the above movies, but as non-reserved seating for that movie, it is not counted toward the ratio of 'as many tickets sold' for the movie in question.  If a theater is brand new to the region and wasn't yet open for one of the above movies, however, it will be counted toward the ratio.  It will also be counted toward the ratio if it was playing in a different number of theaters locally.

T-6 days:

JW2                 95 tickets sold [0 sellouts/111 showings |   9177/11263 seats left | 18.52% sold]

Aladdin (JW)    80 tickets sold [0 sellouts/74 showings   |   8221/9374 seats left   | 12.30% sold]

FB2               237 tickets sold [0 sellouts/98 showings   | 10928/13377 seats left | 18.31% sold] 

Aladdin (FB)    80 tickets sold [0 sellouts/74 showings   |   8642/9812 seats left   |  11.92% sold]  

*  Aladdin (JW) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Fallen Kingdom

**Aladdin (FB) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Crimes of Grindelwald

[Porthos]

King of the Monsters Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-13 Days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	90	11465	12132	5.50%

 

Total Showings Added Today:             3

Total Seats Added Today:               516

Total Seats Sold Today:                     61

 

IMO, the best comp of movies I have tracked will be Fallen Kingdom.  I also have comps with the Aladdin (still in pre-sales) and Detective Pikachu as something as a compare/contrast with current May movies.  They may not be as good comps, being in different genres.

 

Unadjusted Comps

1.2105x as many tickets sold as Detective Pikachu 13 days before release. 

0.8164x as many tickets sold as Aladdin 13 days before release.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  [Pika Pika had 29 days of pre-sales and Aladdin had 24 while King of the Monsters had 20 days of pre-sales]

 

T-13:

Pika        36  tickets sold  [0 sellouts/75 showings   |  8097/8648 seats left   |  6.37% sold]

Aladdin   70 tickets sold  [0 sellouts/70 showings   |  9180/9997 seats left   |  8.17% sold]

 

Adjusted Comps

.4290x as many tickets sold as Fallen Kingdom 13 days before release.       

PRE-SALES NOTE: JW2 had 22 days of pre-sales while KotM had 20.  Also some theaters had KotM tickets on sale for a few days before they were officially announced to the public for sale. 

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: If a theater locally that is now selling tickets for reserved seating was selling them for the above movies, but as non-reserved seating for that movie, it is not counted toward the ratio of 'as many tickets sold' for the movie in question.  If a theater is brand new to the region and wasn't yet open for one of the above movies, however, it will be counted toward the ratio.  It will also be counted toward the ratio if it was playing in a different number of theaters locally.

 

T-13:

JW2               77 tickets sold [0 sellouts/97 showings   |   8628/10113 seats left   |  14.68% sold]

KotM (JW)      58 tickets sold [0 sellouts/90 showings   | 10443/11080 seats left   |    5.75% sold]

KotM (JW) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Fallen Kingdom.

 

Edited May 18, 2019 by Porthos
Forgot to add new showtime/seat info - derp

[Porthos]

Just now, Porthos said:

Aladdin Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-6 Days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	74	9457	10718	11.77%

 

Total Seats Sold Today:                      86

 

The best comp I have so far is Detective Pikachu.  I also have less ideal comps with JW2 and FB2.  Use the later comps with caution.

 

Unadjusted Comps

1.2314x as many tickets sold as Detective Pikachu 6 days before release. 

PRE-SALES NOTE:  [Pika Pika had 29 days of pre-sales while Aladdin had 24]

 

T-6:

Pika:      82  tickets sold  [0 sellouts/62 showings   |  6440/7464 seats left   | 13.72% sold]

 

Adjusted Comps

.5527x as many tickets sold as Fallen Kingdom 6 days before release.

.4777x as many tickets sold as Crimes of Grindelwald 6 days before release.

PRE-SALES NOTE: JW2 had 22 days of pre-sales and FB2 had 30 days of pre-sales while Aladdin had 24.

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: If a theater locally that is now selling tickets for reserved seating was selling them for the above movies, but as non-reserved seating for that movie, it is not counted toward the ratio of 'as many tickets sold' for the movie in question.  If a theater is brand new to the region and wasn't yet open for one of the above movies, however, it will be counted toward the ratio.  It will also be counted toward the ratio if it was playing in a different number of theaters locally.

T-6 days:

JW2                 95 tickets sold [0 sellouts/111 showings |   9177/11263 seats left | 18.52% sold]

Aladdin (JW)    80 tickets sold [0 sellouts/74 showings   |   8221/9374 seats left   | 12.30% sold]

FB2               237 tickets sold [0 sellouts/98 showings   | 10928/13377 seats left | 18.31% sold] 

Aladdin (FB)    80 tickets sold [0 sellouts/74 showings   |   8642/9812 seats left   |  11.92% sold]  

*  Aladdin (JW) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Fallen Kingdom

**Aladdin (FB) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Crimes of Grindelwald

Gonna now say pretty much the exact same thing now about Aladdin that I said about Pika PIka.  It's crunch time for it.  If this is gonna be walkup/family based, I'd want to see a ramp up of sales.  Starting tomorrow would be good.  No later, really, than Sunday.  Monday at the absolute latest.

 

Today's FB comp is more than a little off because of folks buying the Tue sneaks.  Fair enough on that score.  But Aladdin keeps treading water with Pikachu and that really isn't the best of signs for it.  It did eclipse Pika PIka by about 20 tickets yesterday, which was good for it.  Only 6 above today though, which isn't as good.

 

I don't know how much more I think I want to see from Aladdin over Pikachu over the next couple of days, but I do know I don't want to see it more or less matching it stride for stride.  If it does... Well it ain't a great sign for a lot of walkups.

 

Doesn't mean those walkups won't show up.  Does probably mean it's less likely.

 

And, no, don't ask me for the concrete numbers for Aladdin over Pika Pika I'd like to see.  It's in the catagory of "I'll know it when I see it."

 

[Porthos]

Just now, Porthos said:

Gonna now say pretty much the exact same thing now about Aladdin that I said about Pika PIka.  It's crunch time for it.  If this is gonna be walkup/family based, I'd want to see a ramp up of sales.  Starting tomorrow would be good.  No later, really, than Sunday.  Monday at the absolute latest.

 

Today's FB comp is more than a little off because of folks buying the Tue sneaks.  Fair enough on that score.  But Aladdin keeps treading water with Pikachu and that really isn't the best of signs for it.  It did eclipse Pika PIka by about 20 tickets yesterday, which was good for it.  Only 6 above today though, which isn't as good.

 

I don't know how much more I think I want to see from Aladdin over Pikachu over the next couple of days, but I do know I don't want to see it more or less matching it stride for stride.  If it does... Well it ain't a great sign for a lot of walkups.

 

Doesn't mean those walkups won't show up.  Does probably mean it's less likely.

 

And, no, don't ask me for the concrete numbers for Aladdin over Pika Pika I'd like to see.  It's in the catagory of "I'll know it when I see it."

 

Still, if Aladdin does keep trending at 1.2x Pika Pika or so, and then we add in PLF and no matinees, it might be headed for.. oh, I dunno.  7.5m in previews?  5.7 (Pika) x 1.2 = 6.84.  Bump it up by around .7m or so and that kinda seems likely from Sacramento.  

 

For what it's worth, the current comp with JW:FK gives 8.5m.  But JW:FK exploded in its last days, so I expect that ratio to drop more than a bit.  

 

So, yeah.  7.5m might be the target right now if Sacramento is representative of the DOM market at large.

[Mulder]

Not getting good vibes off of Aladdin at all honestly. I know there was growth in Fandango and such but now with Porthos' forecast changing slightly (We'll see if it gets better or worse) I have a strong feeling my theater is indicative of something bigger going on with Aladdin. We'll see if reviews can save it or not but....imo not good.

[Porthos]

Just now, Mulder said:

Not getting good vibes off of Aladdin at all honestly. I know there was growth in Fandango and such but now with Porthos' forecast changing slightly (We'll see if it gets better or worse) I have a strong feeling my theater is indicative of something bigger going on with Aladdin. We'll see if reviews can save it or not but....imo not good.

You can only tell us what you're seeing from your own data.  

 

I think the best way to put my feeling on Aladdin is: Could be better. Could be much better.  I don't think I'm quite as negative as you on its prospects.  But your theater has been lagging pretty hard so I don't blame you.

 

As I think about it, I think the best word for me is: Unease.  

 

Not more than that.  But, yeah.  Uneasy sounds about right. 

[Cap]

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, Mulder said:

Not getting good vibes off of Aladdin at all honestly.

 

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Porthos said:

I think the best way to put my feeling on Aladdin is: Could be better.

 

I know I said that Godzilla's numbers at Lincoln Square could be skewed due to its IMAX, but... Godzilla's ahead of Aladdin at both of the theaters I'm tracking.  That's my concern. It's also not moving.  At all.  So, yeah, my data's backing yours up: it needs to pick up steam fast this week.

[Porthos]

1 minute ago, captainwondyful said:

 

 

I know I said that Godzilla's numbers at Lincoln Square could be skewed due to its IMAX, but... Godzilla's ahead of Aladdin at both of the theaters I'm tracking.

Maybe you're looking at that the wrong way. 

 

@Mulder and @Brainbug might argue that at least.

 

[Mulder]

Just now, Porthos said:

Maybe you're looking at that the wrong way. 

 

@Mulder and @Brainbug might argue that at least.

 

I'm thinking 60-65 still rn so don't look at me. 

[Cap]

8 minutes ago, Mulder said:

I'm thinking 60-65 still rn so don't look at me. 

For Godzilla or Aladdin?

[Mulder]

1 minute ago, captainwondyful said:

For Godzilla or Aladdin?

Godzilla. Aladdin 55-62 three day.

[a2k]

43 minutes ago, Porthos said:

Still, if Aladdin does keep trending at 1.2x Pika Pika or so, and then we add in PLF and no matinees, it might be headed for.. oh, I dunno.  7.5m in previews?  5.7 (Pika) x 1.2 = 6.84.  Bump it up by around .7m or so and that kinda seems likely from Sacramento.  

 

For what it's worth, the current comp with JW:FK gives 8.5m.  But JW:FK exploded in its last days, so I expect that ratio to drop more than a bit.  

 

So, yeah.  7.5m might be the target right now if Sacramento is representative of the DOM market at large.

7.5 would be very strong for Aladdin. With Sunday being inflated it should have a better preview to OW multiplier than PIKA's 9.5x.

 

7.5 previews would put it on track for what...80-85 3-day? I was thinking it's 4-day would do that.

Edited May 18, 2019 by a2k

[Porthos]

15 minutes ago, a2k said:

7.5 would be very strong for Aladdin. With Sunday being inflated it should have a better preview to OW multiplier than PIKA's 9.5x.

And maybe too strong if captainwondyful and Mulder's theaters are any indication.

 

it's too bad @Perfundle hasn't been posting updates lately (    ).  Might be good to get some more local looks at things.

 

Certainly possible Sacto is way over-performing.  Could also be that New York is under-performing for whatever reason.

 

Need more trackers, dang it. Come back, trackers... COME BACK.