The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[xiazhi]

So anything below 150m would be considered disappointing now?

[john2000]

Just now, John Marston said:

all that stuff was only on a few site. The trailers had millions of likes, it follows a beloved trilogy, amazing reviews, open market. No excuse

yeah bc there need to be an excuse for a movie that will make 900-1.1 billion ...............

[Menor the Destroyer]

11 minutes ago, jj99 said:

Let's Asses This.

 

Post The Avengers:

 

Iron Man 3 - Almost 100M increase

I would say being the 1st Marvel movie since Avengers after a year long wait probably contributed to that. Plus first one with 3D helped.

 

Thor: The Dark World - Barely increased around 26M, but that was also not a very good Movie in my opinion.

 

Winter Soldier - Increased by 83M, Felt like the true sequel, so will give you this one. Had great legs. (Still my fav Marvel Movie)

 

 

Post Ultron

 

Captain America: Civil War - Glorified Avengers move so doesn't count.

 

The rest came out years after Ultron, that I won't even bother. Marvel Brand became consistent, quality wise and grew in popularity.

 

Post Infinity War

Again, as mention above, Ant-Man barely increased.

 

I guess FFH might be the tie breaker. Homecoming came out near Peak Marvel, so I don't expect the growth to be too much. Ive seen people predicting close to 500M for this, which I feel is unrealistic and will only lead to disappointment. Im not hating on FFH and I hope people don't treat it like a palate cleanser, like they did Ant Man  & The Wasp, Which also came out not too long after an Avengers movie.

Homecoming is not peak Marvel lol, far from it. Peak Marvel is this year. It remains to be seen how much of that halo can carry over to FFH.

[john2000]

you people know that toy story 4 without all of its territorys, and some of them are major, its looking to open to 260+ ww opening right ?

 

[John Marston]

2 minutes ago, xiazhi said:

So anything below 150m would be considered disappointing now?

yes

 

 

[john2000]

2 minutes ago, xiazhi said:

So anything below 150m would be considered disappointing now?

according to some people

[Menor the Destroyer]

I think some of you don't understand how massive a 150 million opening is, especially for an animated movie. Even if TS4 opened to 120 million it would likely have the juice to cross 400 million domestic. 150 gives it a good shot at 500. These are good numbers.

[john2000]

1 minute ago, John Marston said:

yes

 

 

dont make your opinion a fact, though bc some of you may be dissapointed by the result , that doesnt mean, that some other should

[keysersoze123]

6 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

AM2 increased 20% domestic from AM.  If SM:FFH had the same % increase it would make $401m.

 

The difference of  Ant-Man in CW vs Spider-Man in AIW & AEG - significant in terms of potential new (or in SMs case maybe also returning) audience

but this movie wont have the Iron Man boost that previous one. to me RDJ still is the most well known face of MCU. That has some impact. I remember predicting 150/400 after RDJ signed up for  homecoming.

[john2000]

1 minute ago, Menor said:

I think some of you don't understand how massive a 150 million opening is, especially for an animated movie. Even if TS4 opened to 120 million it would likely have the juice to cross 400 million domestic. 150 gives it a good shot at 500. These are good numbers.

however i dont believe that it will be under 140,it could but i dont think that it will

[Menor the Destroyer]

3 minutes ago, John Marston said:

yes

 

 

So according to you, is Captain Marvel a disappointment? Bc if TS4 gets say 130 million it would have a good shot to cross CM's domestic gross.

[john2000]

Just now, keysersoze123 said:

but this movie wont have the Iron Man boost that previous one. to me RDJ still is the most well known face of MCU. That has some impact. I remember predicting 150/400 after RDJ signed up for  homecoming.

spiderman is spiderman, one of the biggest brands ever, iron man was need in the first one to convince the people that this movie is different, and well spidey was in iw,cw,eg, and hc and now ffh, i think that people are convinced, as long as the movies are good

[Porthos]

7 minutes ago, Menor said:

I think some of you don't understand how massive a 150 million opening is, especially for an animated movie.

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Row	Rank	Title (click to view)	Studio	Lifetime Gross / Theaters		Opening / Theaters		Date
1	1	Incredibles 2	BV	$608,581,744	4,410	$182,687,905	4,410	6/15/18
2	2	Finding Dory	BV	$486,295,561	4,305	$135,060,273	4,305	6/17/16
3	13	Shrek the Third (CG)	P/DW	$322,719,944	4,172	$121,629,270	4,122	5/18/07
4	12	Minions	Uni.	$336,045,770	4,311	$115,718,405	4,301	7/10/15
5	5	Toy Story 3 (CG)	BV	$415,004,880	4,028	$110,307,189	4,028	6/18/10
6	3	Shrek 2 (CG)	DW	$441,226,247	4,223	$108,037,878	4,163	5/19/04
7	8	The Secret Life of Pets	Uni.	$368,384,330	4,381	$104,352,905	4,370	7/8/1

 

Adj:

 

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Row	Rank	Title (click to view)	Studio	Adj. Gross / Theaters		Opening / Theaters		Date
1	3	Incredibles 2	BV	$597,356,200	4,410	$175,481,700	4,410	6/15/18
2	12	Shrek the Third (CG)	P/DW	$422,631,800	4,172	$159,284,800	4,122	5/18/07
3	2	Shrek 2 (CG)	DW	$640,168,900	4,223	$156,750,600	4,163	5/19/04
4	5	Finding Dory	BV	$505,984,400	4,305	$139,392,100	4,305	6/17/16
5	19	Minions	Uni.	$366,835,400	4,311	$126,378,500	4,301	7/10/15
6	6	Toy Story 3 (CG)	BV	$480,588,300	4,028	$126,125,400	4,028	6/18/10
7	16	The Secret Life of Pets	Uni.	$389,897,100	4,381	$110,484,100	4,370	7/8/16
8	4	Finding Nemo (CG)	BV	$554,894,500	3,425	$104,969,800	3,374	5/30/03
9	18	The Incredibles (CG)	BV	$378,689,900	3,933	$102,240,500	3,933	11/5/04

(yes, I2 went down).

 

Tell me again how under 150 OW would be a disappointment.

 

EDIT:::

 

Not on the charts, TLK and Frozen due to their rollouts.  They wouldn't have mattered in the OW, however.

Edited June 18, 2019 by Porthos

[Menor the Destroyer]

2 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

but this movie wont have the Iron Man boost that previous one. to me RDJ still is the most well known face of MCU. That has some impact. I remember predicting 150/400 after RDJ signed up for  homecoming.

Hard to say how much Iron Man actually boosted the last one. I don't think that many people who weren't already interested would have seen it just due to RDJ having some scenes. It's not like it was an Iron Man solo movie.

[XXR vs XXR]

I don’t expect a huge increase for FFH from Homecoming. Maybe it does $375m.

[keysersoze123]

Just now, Porthos said:

 

Adj:

 

(yes, I2 went down).

 

Tell me again how under 150 OW would be a disappointment.

How on earth can a movie BO be adjusted downward. Did ticket prices go down !!!! or is it bcos canadian $ is worth less now?

[john2000]

Just now, Porthos said:

 

Adj:

 

(yes, I2 went down).

 

Tell me again how under 150 OW would be a disappointment.

especilly when dorry challenge 500 dom , lol.

 

PS still we dont know and its idiotic at least in my opinion to talk about things that may not happen

[Legion Again]

23 minutes ago, jj99 said:

Homecoming came out near Peak Marvel

[john2000]

1 minute ago, VenomXXR said:

I don’t expect a huge increase for FFH from Homecoming. Maybe it does $375m.

based from pre sales we are looking at 200-225, for six 6 as of now, i dont see how it doesnt not make 400 dom , even with lion king

[Menor the Destroyer]

Just now, john2000 said:

based from pre sales we are looking at 200-225, for six 6 as of now, i dont see how it doesnt not make 400 dom , even with lion king

I'm actually optimistic and thinking this could challenge 250 for the 6-day, but I will caution about the presales, we really don't have that much of an idea of how to comp them. So I  wouldn't put too much stock into them, especially this far out.