The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Doctor Stark]

3 minutes ago, Sunny Max said:

BUY TIME	      TICKETS	MOVIE TITLE
--------------------------------------------------
2019-06-26 19:00:00	882	Toy Story 4
2019-06-26 19:00:00	476	Annabelle Comes Home
2019-06-26 19:00:00	246	Spider-Man Far From Home (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	154	Yesterday (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	134	Avengers Endgame (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	111	Aladdin (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	89	Childs Play (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	71	Men in Black International
2019-06-26 19:00:00	64	The Lion King (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	61	Toy Story 4 3D
2019-06-26 19:00:00	59	Rocketman
2019-06-26 19:00:00	59	The Secret Life of Pets 2
2019-06-26 19:00:00	53	John Wick Chapter 3 – Parabellum
2019-06-26 19:00:00	40	Annabelle Comes Home The IMAX 2D Experience
2019-06-26 19:00:00	35	Spider-Man Far From Home The IMAX 2D Experience (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	28	Godzilla King of the Monsters (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	28	Dark Phoenix
2019-06-26 19:00:00	23	Shaft (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	22	Anna (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	21	Late Night (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	16	Toy Story 4 The IMAX 2D Experience
2019-06-26 19:00:00	13	The Dead Dont Die
2019-06-26 19:00:00	12	Spider-Man Far From Home 3D (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	11	Kabir Singh

 

Spidey .... 

How is its performance? Amazing? Spectacular? Superior?

[Sunny Max]

Just now, Doctor Stark said:

How is its performance? Amazing? Spectacular? Superior?

Amazing ... Sales accelerating so much from past few hours ..

[PKMLover]

1 minute ago, Sunny Max said:

Amazing ... Sales accelerating so much from past few hours ..

But those ticket prices update are online online-buying, or or includes people who buy at the cinema too?

[VanillaSkies]

Interesting to see Yesterday with such strong presales. 

I saw it on Monday evening at a special screening. I personally was underwhelmed. First half sets up the movie greatly, the second half loses it's way to what I found to be an unsatisfying conclusion. 

 

However, the music (of course!) is great and I certainly went home and downloaded much of the Beatles discography afterwards. 

Kate McKinnon also gives a pretty good performance, though too brief. 

[Porthos]

3 minutes ago, PKMLover said:

But those ticket prices update are online online-buying, or or includes people who buy at the cinema too?

Pulse only tracks sales made through Fandango (as a subset subject to capping).

[Sunny Max]

7 minutes ago, PKMLover said:

But those ticket prices update are online online-buying, or or includes people who buy at the cinema too?

that's include online buying only ... 

[VanillaSkies]

2 hours ago, xiazhi said:

that should just be a regular drop. Disney can't just take Paramount's screens.

 

Well, technically they can. 

No studio owns screens, that's not how it works. Usually there is a two week period in which theaters are contractually obligated to keep a film playing, after which they are free to drop the film as they please. 
 

Those -411 for Rocketman could absolutely go to Endgame, if theatres so please. 

Realistically though, Endgame's expansion screens will come from a variety of other films being pushed out i.e. Godzilla, Dark Phoenix, Rocketman, Secret Life of Pets 2, etc. 

If I were a theatre owner, I wouldn't drop one of the highest performing films (Aladdin) over lesser earning films. 

Last weekend Aladdin had the third best theatre average in the Top 10. 

Considering that theatres earn a higher percentage of ticket sales the further into a run a movie is (with a few exceptions such as Star Wars and Avengers which were specially contracted at a higher rate throughout their runs), theatres want to keep higher performing films as long as they can as their profits are larger per ticket sold later in the run. 

It does make me wonder if Disney waives it's higher rate for Endgame with this expansion to try and entice theatres to pick up the film once more... 

Edited June 27, 2019 by VanillaSkies

[Old Spice]

27 minutes ago, VanillaSkies said:

Interesting to see Yesterday with such strong presales. 

I saw it on Monday evening at a special screening. I personally was underwhelmed. First half sets up the movie greatly, the second half loses it's way to what I found to be an unsatisfying conclusion. 

 

However, the music (of course!) is great and I certainly went home and downloaded much of the Beatles discography afterwards. 

Kate McKinnon also gives a pretty good performance, though too brief. 

I think it's a great premise, and when I saw that first trailer I was beyond excited, so it's been a disappointment to see so many reviews talk about the veer into limp rom-com territory in the film's second half. Still, I like Curtis's work, and I love The Beatles (still remember the thrill of watching them as a kid when they made their American debut on the Ed Sullivan show. My whole family was gathered around a black and white Philco tv set not much bigger than an I-Pad, and even my perennially square dad registered his approval afterwards 😂) so I will probably enjoy it, but I am definitely going in with lowered expectations.

Edited June 27, 2019 by A Star is Orm
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[VanillaSkies]

19 minutes ago, A Star is Orm said:

I think it's a great premise, and when I saw that first trailer I was beyond excited, so it's been a disappointment to see so many reviews talk about the veer into limp rom-com territory in the film's second half. Still, I like Curtis's work, and I love The Beatles (still remember the thrill of watching them as a kid when they made their American debut on the Ed Sullivan show. My whole family was gathered around a black and white Philco tv set not much bigger than an I-Pad, and even my perennially square dad registered his approval afterwards 😂) so I will probably enjoy it, but I am definitely going in with lowered expectations.

I think that's probably the best approach, go in with lower expectations and perhaps be pleasantly surprised. 
I think the biggest problem for me is that during almost the entire second half of the movie I had to contend with my thoughts on how much potential such a brilliant concept had, only to see it squandered and thrown aside in favor of a cheesy, and not at all inspiring IMO, love story. 

[charlie Jatinder]

5 hours ago, Thanos Legion said:

If I summed correctly this is the first hour where FSS sales lead Yesterday, 3625 vs 3613. Still thinking Endgame’s walkup share this weekend will be abnormally low, but it’s definitely trending well with online sales.

Actually, since there won't be much of rush, many folks might be not bothering about online booking, costing another dollar or two?

 

They could just walk-in. Also I think some chains have started promos for purchase on their app, iirc, so those may not be featuring on Fandango as per my understanding.

[gary]

1 hour ago, Sunny Max said:

BUY TIME	      TICKETS	MOVIE TITLE
--------------------------------------------------
2019-06-26 19:00:00	882	Toy Story 4
2019-06-26 19:00:00	476	Annabelle Comes Home
2019-06-26 19:00:00	246	Spider-Man Far From Home (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	154	Yesterday (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	134	Avengers Endgame (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	111	Aladdin (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	89	Childs Play (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	71	Men in Black International
2019-06-26 19:00:00	64	The Lion King (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	61	Toy Story 4 3D
2019-06-26 19:00:00	59	Rocketman
2019-06-26 19:00:00	59	The Secret Life of Pets 2
2019-06-26 19:00:00	53	John Wick Chapter 3 – Parabellum
2019-06-26 19:00:00	40	Annabelle Comes Home The IMAX 2D Experience
2019-06-26 19:00:00	35	Spider-Man Far From Home The IMAX 2D Experience (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	28	Godzilla King of the Monsters (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	28	Dark Phoenix
2019-06-26 19:00:00	23	Shaft (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	22	Anna (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	21	Late Night (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	16	Toy Story 4 The IMAX 2D Experience
2019-06-26 19:00:00	13	The Dead Dont Die
2019-06-26 19:00:00	12	Spider-Man Far From Home 3D (2019)
2019-06-26 19:00:00	11	Kabir Singh

 

Spidey .... 

Annabelle looks very nice here

[filmlover]

Yesterday is selling really well around here too. Think it can hit lower teens at least. Won't be the breakout I thought it would be when the trailer first landed but could become a mini-Rocketman as a summer alternative, especially with a light schedule aside from Spidey, Lion King, and Hollywood throughout July.

[xiazhi]

2 hours ago, VanillaSkies said:

 

Well, technically they can. 

No studio owns screens, that's not how it works. Usually there is a two week period in which theaters are contractually obligated to keep a film playing, after which they are free to drop the film as they please. 
 

Those -411 for Rocketman could absolutely go to Endgame, if theatres so please. 

Realistically though, Endgame's expansion screens will come from a variety of other films being pushed out i.e. Godzilla, Dark Phoenix, Rocketman, Secret Life of Pets 2, etc. 

If I were a theatre owner, I wouldn't drop one of the highest performing films (Aladdin) over lesser earning films. 

Last weekend Aladdin had the third best theatre average in the Top 10. 

Considering that theatres earn a higher percentage of ticket sales the further into a run a movie is (with a few exceptions such as Star Wars and Avengers which were specially contracted at a higher rate throughout their runs), theatres want to keep higher performing films as long as they can as their profits are larger per ticket sold later in the run. 

It does make me wonder if Disney waives it's higher rate for Endgame with this expansion to try and entice theatres to pick up the film once more... 

Very possible.

Thanks for the thorough knowledge

[danhtruong5]

1. TS4

2. EG 4631

3. Yesterday 4604

[Cap]

Yesterday + The Lion King

Thursday Previews

(Featuring Friday AEG "Re-Release")

 

The Lion King
	2.24	6.26	Total	%	Sold
Lincoln Square	1002	1116	6472	17.24%	114
SM Cinemagic	12	37	2434	1.52%	25

 

• I'm so proud of SMCM for actually having some tickets sold.  All came from the 7PM IMAX Screen.  I don't know if that was an Atom Error on Day One or not, but they're there now.
   
• LS13 continues solid sales for its PLF theaters; the standard screens are way behind, and five of the showings after 9PM are empty.  Feels like it's playing like a family film.  I'm also not getting the rush factor.  Something to think about: if there's no fear of Spoilers, are people going to wait for "the best seats in the PLF theater"?  In the long runs, that's good.  PLF tickets cost more.  OW could not be so good?  Or it is too early to tell?  Just food for thought.
   
• Slight bookkeeping note: I miscalculated the theater size on a couple of the standard theaters, to it's really 6472 seats available over 21 showings.  Which is still double Toy Story 4.

Lincoln Square 13
	2.24	2.26	Total	%
Yesterday	182	344	682	50.43%
Avengers (Friday)	N/A	206	922	22.34%

 

• Yesterday, Yesterday sold out its single showing on Thursday.  Told they just added a 10:30PM show.

Southern Maine Cinemagic
	2.24	2.26	Total	%
Avengers (Friday)	N/A	53	438	12.10%

• SMCM is not doing Yesterday Thursday previews.  Maybe they looked at the low Rocketman turn out and said, "We good."
   
• The IMAX theater has Avengers, but we never lost it.  And they STILL have it in the dinky 35 seat theater.  DESPITE the entire weekend looking like 86 / 315 / 27% sold.  Which is basically sold out at place as walk-up driven as SMCM is.  They really should've moved it to a 70 Seat theater.  MIB and Pets have nothing sold for Friday.  Just sayin'.

Edited June 27, 2019 by captainwondyful

[keysersoze123]

Spiderman 10PM update (tickets sold over last 3 hours)

 

5270    2019-07-01    MON    Spider-Man Far From Home (142)
35203    2019-07-02    TUE    Spider-Man Far From Home (974)
8057    2019-07-03    WED    Spider-Man Far From Home( 278)
5052    2019-07-04    THU    Spider-Man Far From Home (166)
4949    2019-07-05    FRI    Spider-Man Far From Home(97)
5182        2019-07-06    SAT    Spider-Man Far From Home (80)
2253    2019-07-07    SUN    Spider-Man Far From Home(44)
279    2019-07-08    MON    Spider-Man Far From Home (3)
858    2019-07-09    TUE    Spider-Man Far From Home (15)

 

Tomorrow will be the best day by a mile. if it sustains the pace seen in the past hour 15k+ can happen. Today it ended just under 8K(7968) but pace after the screening review came up is off the charts.

[TalismanRing]

Fandango Sales Past 24 Hours
Since: 2019-06-26 00:00:00 (US/Central - Chicago)

RANK	PERCENT	TICKETS	MOVIE
1	35.535%	25913	Toy Story 4
2	13.789%	10055	Annabelle Comes Home
3	09.654%	7040	Spider-Man Far From Home (2019)
4	06.207%	4526	Avengers Endgame (2019)
5	05.214%	3802	Yesterday (2019)
6	04.066%	2965	Aladdin (2019)
7	03.319%	2420	The Secret Life of Pets 2
8	03.319%	2420	The Lion King (2019)
9	02.758%	2011	Men in Black International
10	02.566%	1871	Childs Play (2019)
11	01.934%	1410	Rocketman
12	01.651%	1204	John Wick Chapter 3 – Parabellum
13	01.181%	861	Spider-Man Far From Home  (2019)

[Porthos]

Far From Home Greater Sacramento Area MIDNIGHT SCREENINGS Seat Report: T-5 Days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	25	2790	3445	19.01%

 

Total Seats Sold Today:                      56

 

Comp against Crimes of Grindelwand Tuesday Limited Engagement Sneaks:

 

1.1177x times as many tickets sold as FB2's sneaks 5 days before their showings.

 

T-5 days:

FB2 sneaks      15 tickets sold  [0 sellouts/6 showings   | 813/1399 seats left  |  41.89% sold]

[Porthos]

The Lion King Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-22 Days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	158	16415	17989	8.75%

 

Total Showings Added Today:            20 (9 at non-reserved seating theaters)

Total Seats Added Today:                 742

Total Seats Sold Today:                    163

 

Unadjusted Comps

6.4508x as many tickets sold as Detective Pikachu after three days of pre-sales.

3.6267x as many tickets sold as Aladdin after three days of pre-sales.

4.2312x as many tickets sold as King of the Monsters after three days of pre-sales.

1.5507x as many tickets sold as Toy Story 4 after three days of pre-sales.

 

Day 3:

Pika         33 tickets sold [0 sellouts/72 showings |     7765/8009 seats left     |  3.05% sold]

Aladdin   30 tickets sold [0 sellouts/68 showings |     8969/9403 seats left      |  4.62% sold]

KotM       38 tickets sold [0 sellouts/57 showings  |    7582/7954 seats left     |  4.68% sold]

TS4        118 tickets sold [0 sellouts/89 showings  |  11186/12201 seats left   |  8.32% sold]

NOTE:  Some theaters sold tickets for a couple of days for KotM before being officially announced for sale.

 

Adjusted Comps

1.7072x as many tickets sold as Fallen Kingdom after three days of pre-sales.

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: If a theater locally that is now selling tickets for reserved seating was selling them for the above movies, but as non-reserved seating for that movie, it is not counted toward the ratio of 'as many tickets sold' for the movie in question.  If a theater is brand new to the region and wasn't yet open for one of the above movies, however, it will be counted toward the ratio.  It will also be counted toward the ratio if it was playing in a different number of theaters locally.

 

Day 3:

JW2              96 tickets sold  [0 sellouts/97 showings   |     9242/10113 seats left  | 8.61% sold]

TLK (JW)      163 tickets sold [0 sellouts/158 showings  |  14494/15981 seats left  | 9.30% sold]

TLK (JW) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Fallen Kingdom

[Porthos]

23 minutes ago, Porthos said:

The Lion King Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-22 Days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	158	16415	17989	8.75%

 

BTW, Toy Story 4 finished at 156 showings locally on preview night.  At the same point in time, it had 89 showings scheduled.

 

Just so folks have an idea of the bet local theaters are placing on TLK.