The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Legion Again]

Bad at reading, nvm

Edited July 16, 2019 by Thanos Legion

[keysersoze123]

Just now, Thanos Legion said:

Endgame is more than 50% longer than TLK. ratio of screens and ratio of showings are very different.

I am talking show count not screen count. Endgame kind of release will only happen for SW9 and even that wont hit that high.

[Tinalera]

For a change of pace.....

Hobbes and Shaw

Aug 1

Scotiabank toronto

Regular 3d 

700 4/231
1040 2/231

Regular non 3d
 
730 85/558
1050 72/558

Yongevand dundas

VIP 
715 5/77
1030 2/77

IMAX
730 26/356
1045 8/356

Queensway 

VIP

730 21/135
1040 4/135

AVX
700 2/226
1000 0/226

Really early obviously so a quiet start but people are buying. We will see how numbers go.

 

[Porthos]

1 hour ago, keysersoze123 said:

I don’t think that is true. Endgame had close to 70% of screens. I don’t think Lion king is in that ballpark. Closer to 2nd weekend of Endgame than 1st.
At Empire 25 Lion King has like 36 shows (2D + 3D) and 5 Imax/Dolby for previews. it has not got the AMC Prime screen for some reason. For OD weird reason it has fewer 2D + 3D shows (21) and 11 Dolby/Imax.

Endgame had almost 100 shows and previews had ridiculous number of shows.

Of course LK 2/3 length of Endgame or less and so it can do with fewer screens but show counts have to boost up to come anywhere near the ballpark of Endgame.

TLK just hit 250 showtimes for Thr in the Sacto market today, pending any more shows getting added from theaters as they finalize slates.

 

Not counting Endgame (which finished at a gobsmacking 347), only Captain Marvel cracked 200 locally (216) for preview night.

 

Even if the new theater is removed, that makes it 240 showtimes for TLK to CM's 216.

 

I am, and I don't think anyone else for that matter, not saying this is reaching anything close to EG's level of showtimes.  But a lot of us are noting the sheer number of showtimes that ARE being set aside relative to even other blockbusters.

Edited July 17, 2019 by Porthos
And now another theater did update so it is in fact at 250. So back to the original numbers given

[XXR vs XXR]

1 minute ago, Porthos said:

TLK just hit 250 showtimes for Thr in the Sacto market today, pending any more shows getting added from theaters as they finalize slates.

 

Not counting Endgame (which finished at a gobsmacking 347), only Captain Marvel cracked 200 locally (216) for preview night.

 

Even if the new theater is removed, that makes it 240 showtimes for TLK to CM's 216.

 

I am, and I don't think anyone else for that matter, not saying this is reaching anything close to EG's level of showtimes.  But a lot of us are noting the sheer number of showtimes that ARE being set aside relative to even other blockbusters.

 

It hit 40 show times at my theater today. That’s 2nd highest only to Endgame which finished with 50.

 

Infinity War finished at 37 and Captain Marvel at 30.

[keysersoze123]

1 minute ago, Porthos said:

TLK just hit 250 showtimes for Thr in the Sacto market today, pending any more shows getting added from theaters as they finalize slates.

 

Not counting Endgame (which finished at a gobsmacking 347), only Captain Marvel cracked 200 locally (216) for preview night.

 

Even if the new theater is removed, that makes it 240 showtimes for TLK to CM's 216.

 

I am, and I don't think anyone else for that matter, not saying this is reaching anything close to EG's level of showtimes.  But a lot of us are noting the sheer number of showtimes that ARE being set aside relative to even other blockbusters.

its definitely over performing in Sacramento than what I see in NYC. Theaters I have looked at seem to be doing great only for Imax/PLF(especially Dolby). Regular 2D/3D shows have not sold much. Show count is also not in the same ball park as Endgame. This despite having run time advantage.

 

That said I am thinking 180m is the target based on Wang’s numbers. I hope I am wrong and it opens > 200m.

[Porthos]

2 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

its definitely over performing in Sacramento than what I see in NYC. Theaters I have looked at seem to be doing great only for Imax/PLF(especially Dolby). Regular 2D/3D shows have not sold much. Show count is also not in the same ball park as Endgame. This despite having run time advantage.

 

I've been talking with @captainwondyful about this, and I think part of it is we don't have Dolby screens in Sacramento.  

 

My theory is that the tickets that could go to Dolby showings are instead going to standard 2D sales out here, if in the larger auditoriums.

 

Here are some splits, again as of last night:

 

                Sold    Total   Perct
2D Seats	5266	19781	26.62%
3D Seats	690	4943	13.96%
PLF Seats	1666	8332	20.00%
Stand Seats	4290	16392	26.17%
			
PLF - 2D	1321	6070	21.76%
PLF - 3D	345	2262	15.25%


         Prct of tickets SOLD
3D Perct	11.58%
PLF Perct	27.97%

PLF seats account for nearly 28% of all seats sold locally .  We just don't have that many PLF screens out here.  Many theaters don't have any PLF screen at all.

 

If I include the entire spectrum of all types of PLF, 16.25% of all showings (again as of last night) are some type of PLF (39/240).   

 

Since some of those PLF showings are in 3D or at midnight, that puts pressure on all of the standard showings out there.  If there is only one 2D showing at a PLF screen* in a theater, a lot of folks are going to grab showings at standard times.

 

* NOTE:  Two theaters in the region have multiple (so-called) PLF screens, everyone else has one.  Some theaters are having a 2D/3D/2D split on their PLF screen, others are exclusively 2D.

 

Finally given that my numbers look to be broadly in line with Menor's (now that I have decent comps) I don't think Sacramento is over-performing all that much.  Just that our tickets are spread out differently than places that have AMC theaters.

[TwoMisfits]

2nd local is in...and they are also going all in on The Lion King, with the same 32 showings, across 6.4 screens.  Holdovers got CRUSHED here, if not affiliated with Disney (part of the TLK deal???:) or opened last week...here's the set...

 

NEW 

TLK (6.4 -32 showings - same showings as Endgame - 5 3d, 27 2d)

 

RETURNING

Spidey (1.2 - 6 showings) - it gets a late night showing from TLK - lost 1.4 screens/7 showings - not as good as other local

Toys 4 (1 - 6 showings) - same as last week

Aladdin (1 - 5 showings) - same as last week

Stuber (1 - 6 showings) - same as last week

Crawl (1 - 6 showings) - same as last week

Endgame (.2 - 1 showing) - gets a late night showing from TLK - lost the rest of the screen from last week

Anabelle (.2 - 1 showing) - gets a late night showing from TLK - lost the rest of the screen from last week

 

GONE

Midsommar, Yesterday, MIB 4, SLOP 2, JW3 (finally leaves)

[TwoMisfits]

Dang, double post...thanks wi fi:)...

Edited July 16, 2019 by TwoMisfits

[TwoMisfits]

1 minute ago, Porthos said:

I've been talking with @captainwondyful about this, and I think part of it is we don't have Dolby screens in Sacramento.  

 

My theory is that the tickets that could go to Dolby showings are instead going to standard 2D sales out here, if in the larger auditoriums.

 

Here are some splits, again as of last night:

 

                Sold    Total   Perct
2D Seats	5266	19781	26.62%
3D Seats	690	4943	13.96%
PLF Seats	1666	8332	20.00%
Stand Seats	4290	16392	26.17%
			
PLF - 2D	1321	6070	21.76%
PLF - 3D	345	2262	15.25%


         Prct of tickets SOLD
3D Perct	11.58%
PLF Perct	27.97%

PLF seats account for nearly 28% of all seats sold locally .  We just don't have that many PLF screens out here.  Many theaters don't have any PLF screen at all.

 

If I include the entire spectrum of all types of PLF, 16.25% of all showings (again as of last night) are some type of PLF (39/240).   

 

Since some of those PLF showings are in 3D or at midnight, that puts pressure on all of the standard showings out there.  If there is only one 2D showing at a PLF screen* in a theater, a lot of folks are going to grab showings at standard times.

 

* NOTE:  Two theaters in the region have multiple (so-called) PLF screens, everyone else has one.  Some theaters are having a 2D/3D/2D split on their PLF screen, others are exclusively 2D.

 

Finally given that my numbers look to be broadly in line with Menor's (now that I have decent comps) I don't think Sacramento is over-performing all that much.  Just that our tickets are spread out differently than places that have AMC theaters.

And if I'm not wrong, AMC subscribers can get any kind of ticket in presales for their subcription...so their subscriber base would almost certainly be early presale buyers in large PLF formats...

[Porthos]

BTW, I would like to add one other thing.

 

I never ever ever call/predict an OW based on Sacto numbers.  That ain't my thing. I exclusively look at previews and make a comp call on that.

Right now, I'd say Sacto is pointing to around 20 to 22m in previews, depending on how these last three days go.  If it is 21m then 21 x 8.5 = 178.5, which is right in line with some of your expectations @keysersoze123.

 

I can already hear @TalismanRing's teeth grinding at 'only' a 8.5x off a 21m Thr, BTW.   But it is possible that the film could be a bit more frontloaded due to the sheer number of showtimes out there and it being summer so more families being able to get Thr tickets.  I wouldn't bet on it personally.  But it also wouldn't surprise me too much.

 

(I know @Menor has been looking at Fri/Sat data, but frankly I can't recall their conclusions right this moment)

 

Edited July 16, 2019 by Porthos

[YM!]

On 7/14/2019 at 9:16 AM, YourMother the Edgelord said:

The Lion King (59 v 60: Dawn of Soulless) (4 before previews, 5 before release)

North Shore Cinema 

Mequon, WI

7/19/19

 

6:00 - 187/301 - UltraScreen 

8:00 - 21/121 - 3D 

9:00 - 82/301 - UltraScreen 

11:00 - 0/121 - 3D 

12:00 - 2/301 - UltraScreen 

 

Running:

1327% of Coco ($674.25M OW)

314% of Toy Story 4 ($376.77M OW)

286% of Ant Man and The Wasp ($214.71M OW)

201% of Spider-Man: Homecoming ($235.61M OW)

 

Damn! I'd say $200M OW is locked.

The Lion King (Shame on the GA for this) (2 before previews, 3 before release)

North Shore Cinema 

Mequon, WI

7/19/19

 

 

6:00 - 217/301 - UltraScreen 

6:30 - 16/138

7:00 - 63/146

8:00 - 50/121- 3D 

9:00 -147/301 - UltraScreen 

9:30 - 6/138

10:00 - 0/146

11:00 - 2/121 - 3D 

11:30 - 1/63

12:00 - 6/301 - UltraScreen 

 

 

1451% of Christopher Robin ($21.77M previews/$356.91M OW)

1128% of Coco ($25.96M Previews/$573.48M OW)

584% of Aladdin ($40.87M Previews/$534.28M OW)

343% of Ant Man and The Wasp ($39.4M previews/$260.17M OW)

284% of Toy Story 4 ($34.05M Previews/$340.5M OW)

241% of Spider-Man: Homecoming ($37.08M Previews/$281.69M OW)

 

I think my theater is definitely overindexing but I do think that $200M+ OW is happening, I’m thinking around $225M-$240M OW

Edited July 16, 2019 by YourMother the Edgelord

[Inceptionzq]

On 7/15/2019 at 4:51 PM, Inceptionzq said:

The Lion King Thursday Night Showings Denver Metro

 

AMC Westminster Promenade 24:

IMAX: 

7 PM – 86/411(+15)

10 PM – 11/411

Real D 3D:

6:30 PM – 12/48(+7)

7:10 PM – 10/48

9:25 PM – 0/48

10:05 PM – 0/48

Prime 3D:

7:30 PM – 92/187(+11)

10:30 PM – 7/187

Dolby:

6 PM- 167/217(+10)

9 PM – 106/217(+16)

11:50 PM – 20/217(+2)

2D: 

6 PM – 49/158

6 PM – 14/56(+7)

6:10 PM – 6/48

6:20 PM – 12/44

6:40 PM – 14/94(+1)

6:50 PM – 19/92

7:20 PM – 15/44

7:40 PM – 7/56(+3)

7:50 PM – 2/44

8 PM – 11/40

8:10 PM – 4/36

8:20 PM – 8/48

8:30 PM – 13/94(+2)

8:40 PM – 0/92

8:50 PM – 0/44

9:05 PM – 6/158(+2)

9:10 PM – 0/56

9:15 PM – 0/48

9:20 PM – 0/44

9:30 PM – 9/94(+4)

9:45 PM – 0/92

10:15 PM – 0/44

10:40 PM – 3/56

10:50 PM – 0/44

11 PM – 0/40

11:10 PM – 0/36

11:20 PM – 0/48

11:30 PM – 0/94

11:40 PM – 0/92

11:50 PM – 0/44

11:55 PM – 0/56

12:00 AM – 5/158

 

AMC Highlands Ranch 24:

IMAX: 

7 PM – 117/384(+9)

10 PM – 22/384(+9)

Real D 3D: 

6:30 PM – 19/85

7:30 PM – 8/52

9:30 PM – 0/85

10:30 PM – 0/52

Dolby: 

6 PM – 139/210(+4)

9 PM – 96/210(+5)

2D:

6 PM – 65/159(+10)

6:10 PM – 18/52

6:15 PM – 8/52

6:20 PM – 12/41(+12)

6:40 PM – 23/85(+2)

6:50 PM – 16/39(+4)

7:10 PM – 11/45

7:15 PM – 4/85

7:20 PM – 4/45

7:40 PM – 5/52(+2)

7:50 PM – 0/39

8 PM – 30/159(+6)

8:10 PM – 0/45

8:20 PM – 0/41

8:30 PM – 17/85(+2)

9:10 PM – 8/52

9:15 PM – 4/52

9:20 PM – 11/41

9:30 PM – 0/159

9:40 PM – 0/85

9:50 PM – 0/39

10:10 PM – 0/45

10:15 PM – 0/85

10:20 PM – 0/45

10:40 PM – 0/52

10:50 PM – 0/39

11 PM – 11/159

 

Total from 9 theaters(154 showings): 3749(+417)/20422 (18.4%)

Finally the big jump I’ve been waiting for.

The Lion King Thursday Night Showings Denver Metro

AMC Westminster Promenade 24:

IMAX:

7 PM – 110/411(+24)

10 PM – 15/411(+4)

Real D 3D:

6:30 PM – 14/48(+2)

7:10 PM – 11/48(+1)

9:25 PM – 0/48

10:05 PM – 0/48

Prime 3D:

7:30 PM – 97/187(+5)

10:30 PM – 7/187

Dolby:

6 PM- 171/217(+4)

9 PM – 120/217(+14)

11:50 PM – 21/217(+1)

2D:

6 PM – 67/158(+18)

6 PM – 16/56(+2)

6:10 PM – 8/48(+2)

6:20 PM – 12/44

6:40 PM – 21/94(+7)

6:50 PM – 22/92(+3)

7:20 PM – 17/44(+2)

7:40 PM – 14/56(+7)

7:50 PM – 2/44

8 PM – 12/40(+1)

8:10 PM – 4/36

8:20 PM – 14/48(+6)

8:30 PM – 20/94(+7)

8:40 PM – 2/92(+2)

8:50 PM – 0/44

9:05 PM – 6/158

9:10 PM – 0/56

9:15 PM – 0/48

9:20 PM – 0/44

9:30 PM – 9/94

9:45 PM – 0/92

10:15 PM – 0/44

10:40 PM – 3/56

10:50 PM – 0/44

11 PM – 0/40

11:10 PM – 0/36

11:20 PM – 2/48(+2)

11:30 PM – 0/94

11:40 PM – 0/92

11:50 PM – 0/44

11:55 PM – 0/56

12:00 AM – 5/158

 

AMC Highlands Ranch 24:

IMAX:

7 PM – 133/384(+16)

10 PM – 26/384(+4)

Real D 3D:

6:30 PM – 35/85(+16)

7:30 PM – 9/52(+1)

9:30 PM – 0/85

10:30 PM – 0/52

Dolby:

6 PM – 148/210(+9)

9 PM – 98/210(+2)

2D:

6 PM – 80/159(+15)

6:10 PM – 18/52

6:15 PM – 8/52

6:20 PM – 19/41(+7)

6:40 PM – 29/85(+6)

6:50 PM – 16/39

7:10 PM – 11/45

7:15 PM – 4/85

7:20 PM – 4/45

7:40 PM – 26/52(+21)

7:50 PM – 0/39

8 PM – 39/159(+9)

8:10 PM – 0/45

8:20 PM – 0/41

8:30 PM – 17/85

9:10 PM – 8/52

9:15 PM – 4/52

9:20 PM – 11/41

9:30 PM – 0/159

9:40 PM – 0/85

9:50 PM – 0/39

10:10 PM – 0/45

10:15 PM – 0/85

10:20 PM – 0/45

10:40 PM – 0/52

10:50 PM – 2/39(+2)

11 PM – 11/159

 

Total from 9 theaters(162 showings): 4366(+617)/20930(+508) (20.9%)

This will pass 6000 tickets sold. These last two days will be interesting, it might be closer to 7000 than 6000 when it’s all said and done.

[YM!]

17 minutes ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:

The Lion King (Shame on the GA for this) (2 before previews, 3 before release)

North Shore Cinema 

Mequon, WI

7/19/19

 

 

6:00 - 217/301 - UltraScreen 

6:30 - 16/138

7:00 - 63/146

8:00 - 50/121- 3D 

9:00 -147/301 - UltraScreen 

9:30 - 6/138

10:00 - 0/146

11:00 - 2/121 - 3D 

11:30 - 1/63

12:00 - 6/301 - UltraScreen 

 

 

1451% of Christopher Robin ($21.77M previews/$356.91M OW)

1128% of Coco ($25.96M Previews/$573.48M OW)

584% of Aladdin ($40.87M Previews/$534.28M OW)

343% of Ant Man and The Wasp ($39.4M previews/$260.17M OW)

284% of Toy Story 4 ($34.05M Previews/$340.5M OW)

241% of Spider-Man: Homecoming ($37.08M Previews/$281.69M OW)

 

No comparisons as I’m out but I’ll update tonight.

Now with comparisons.

[cdsacken]

Lmao I love how that CR comparison of 14.5x is somehow realistic. Great job @YourMother the Edgelord

[Menor the Destroyer]

33 minutes ago, Porthos said:

BTW, I would like to add one other thing.

 

I never ever ever call/predict an OW based on Sacto numbers.  That ain't my thing. I exclusively look at previews and make a comp call on that.

Right now, I'd say Sacto is pointing to around 20 to 22m in previews, depending on how these last three days go.  If it is 21m then 21 x 8.5 = 178.5, which is right in line with some of your expectations @keysersoze123.

 

I can already hear @TalismanRing's teeth grinding at 'only' a 8.5x off a 21m Thr, BTW.   But it is possible that the film could be a bit more frontloaded due to the sheer number of showtimes out there and it being summer so more families being able to get Thr tickets.  I wouldn't bet on it personally.  But it also wouldn't surprise me too much.

 

(I know @Menor has been looking at Fri/Sat data, but frankly I can't recall their conclusions right this moment)

 

Friday presales are super strong. According to Charlie if it follows the trajectory I expect it's looking at a 60+ true Friday. Saturday I haven't checked in a while but I expect a 10% jump or thereabouts

[Taruseth]

From Germany, compared to the US it's incredible weak here, despite getting more showings than Endgame, also showings rarely (unless it's Endgame or TFA level or previews for gigantic other movies) sell more than 70% of the ticket for a showing around 8 pm all others rarely even go above 50%:

Spoiler

Tuesday 16^thJuly 2019 23:59 MESZ (T-0) Cinestar Bremen

Wednesday:

3D 11:30: 12 / 572

3D 13:30: 2 / 425

3D 14:30: 10 / 572

3D 16:30: 14 / 425

3D 17:30: 64 / 572

3D 20:20: 183 / 572

 

2D 11:00: 4 / 425

2D 14:00: 39 / 425

2D 17:00: 52 / 425

2D 19:30: 146 / 425

 

Total: 526 / 4838 -> 10.87% (+371)

 

Thursday:

3D 11:30: 0 / 572

3D 13:30: 0 / 425 (NEW)

3D 14:30: 4 / 572

3D 16:30: 0 / 425 (NEW)

3D 17:30: 18 / 572

3D 20:20: 53 / 572

3D 22:30: 11 / 425

 

2D 11:00: 3 / 425 (NEW)

2D 14:00: 7 / 425

2D 17:00: 4 / 425 (NEW)

2D 19:30: 13 / 425 (NEW)

 

Total: 113 / 5263 -> 2.15% (+94 / +2125)

 

Friday:

3D 11:30: 0 / 572

3D 13:30: 0 / 425 (NEW)

3D 14:30: 2 / 572

3D 16:30: 0 / 425 (NEW)

3D 17:30: 23 / 572

3D 20:20: 70 / 572

3D 22:30: 6 / 425

 

2D 11:00: 2 / 425 (NEW)

2D 14:00: 0 / 425

2D 17:00: 0 / 425 (NEW)

2D 19:30: 11 / 425 (NEW)

 

Total: 114 / 5263 -> 2.17% (+93 / +2125)

 

Saturday:

3D 11:30: 5 / 572

3D 13:30: 2 / 425 (NEW)

3D 14:30: 4 / 572

3D 16:30: 7 / 425 (NEW)

3D 17:30: 13 / 572

3D 20:20: 39 / 572

3D 22:30: 2 / 425

 

2D 11:00: 2 / 425 (NEW)

2D 14:00: 15 / 425

2D 17:00: 7 / 425 (NEW)

2D 19:30: 6 / 425 (NEW)

 

Total: 102 / 5263 -> 1.94% (+61 / +2125)

 

Sunday:

OV 3D 20:20: 10 / 296

 

3D 11:30: 0 / 572

3D 13:30: 0 / 425 (NEW)

3D 14:30: 14 / 572

3D 16:30: 0 / 425 (NEW)

3D 17:30: 6 / 572

3D 20:20: 17 / 572

 

2D 11:00: 0 / 425 (NEW)

2D 14:00: 9 / 425

2D 17:00: 8 / 425 (NEW)

2D 19:30: 0 / 425 (NEW)

 

Total: 54 / 5134 -> 1.05% (+37 / +2125)

 

Total WTFSS: 909 / 25761 -> 3.53% (+656 / +8500)

Total TFSS: 383 / 20923 -> 1.83% (+285 / +8500)

 

Tuesday 16^thJuly 2019 23:59 MESZ (T-0) CinemaxX Bremen

Wednesday – Previews (20 minutes before start):

OV 3D 00:01: 9 / 454

3D 00:01: 29 / 505

Total: 38 / 959 -> 3.96% (+17)

 

Wednesday:

3D 15:00: 18 / 145

3D 17:00: 30 / 505

3D 20:00: 108 / 505

3D 23:00: 5 / 505

 

OV 3D 19:30: 109 / 454

 

OV 2D 22:45: 12 / 173

 

2D 14:00: 8 / 505

2D 16:00: 27 / 288 

2D 19:00: 127 / 288

2D 22:00: 22 / 288

 

Total: 466 / 3656 -> 12.75% (+356)

 

Thursday:

3D 15:00: 0 / 348 (NEW)

3D 17:00: 5 / 505

3D 20:00: 43 / 505

3D 23:10: 2 / 505

 

OV 2D 19:30: 114 / 454

 

2D 14:00: 22 / 505

2D 16:30: 2 / 454 (NEW)

2D 19:00: 28 / 348 (NEW)

2D 22:15: 2 / 348 (NEW)

 

Total: 218 / 3972 -> 5.49% (+171 / +1498)

 

Friday:

3D 15:00: 0 / 348 (NEW)

3D 17:00: 15 / 505

3D 20:00: 57 / 505

3D 23:10: 0 / 505

 

OV 2D 19:30: 14 / 454 (NEW)

 

2D 14:00: 7 / 505

2D 16:30: 0 / 454 (NEW)

2D 19:00: 26 / 348 (NEW)

2D 22:150: 2 / 348 (NEW)

 

Total: 121 / 3972 -> 3.05% (+96 / +1952)

 

Saturday:

3D 15:00: 0 / 348 (NEW)

3D 17:00: 18 / 505

3D 20:00: 22 / 505

3D 23:10: 0 / 505

 

OV 3D 19:30: 8 / 454 (NEW)

 

2D 12:00: 0 / 348 (NEW)

2D 14:00: 6 / 505

2D 16:30: 2 / 454 (NEW)

2D 19:00: 14 / 348 (NEW)

2D 22:150: 2 / 348 (NEW)

 

 

Total: 72 / 4320 -> 1.67% (+56 / +2300)

 

Sunday:

3D 15:00: 0 / 348 (NEW)

3D 17:00: 9 / 505

3D 20:00: 4 / 505

3D 23:10: 0 / 505

 

OV 3D 19:30: 0 / 454 (NEW)

 

2D 12:00: 0 / 348 (NEW)

2D 14:00: 9 / 505

2D 16:30: 0 / 454 (NEW)

2D 19:00: 0 / 348 (NEW)

2D 22:150: 0 / 348 (NEW)

 

Total: 22 / 4320 -> 0.52% (+20 / +2300)

 

Total WTFSS w Previews: 937 / 21199 -> 4.42% (+716 / +8050)

Total WTFSS: 899 / 20240 -> 4.44% (+699 / +8050)

Total TFSS: 433 / 16584 -> 2.61% (+71 / +8050)

 

Tuesday 16^thJuly 2019 23:59 MESZ (T-0) Cinestar Metropolis Frankfurt

ALL DAYS HAVE 20 SHOWINGS, that’s gigantic, yet still only 4 out of 12 screens, don’t think any movie will ever get above 5 or so, so nothing like in America or china. Also no midnight previews here:

 

Wednesday:

OV 3D 11:00: 11 / 624

OV 3D 14:00: 24 / 624 (+75 more but they are in three full rows)

OV 3D 17:00: 62 / 624

OV 3D 20:00: 338 / 624

OV 3D 23:00: 16 / 624

 

3D 11:15: 10 / 642

3D 14:15: 19 / 642

3D 17:15: 71 / 642

3D 20:15: 234 / 642

3D 23:15: 21 / 642

 

2D 11:45: 15 / 273

2D 13:15: 16 / 351

2D 16:15: 43 / 351

2D 19:15: 147 / 351

2D 22:15: 36 / 351

 

OV 2D 11:30: 2 / 283

OV 2D 13:00: 6 / 344

OV 2D 16:00: 36 / 344

OV 2D 19:00: 184 / 344

OV 2D 22:00: 22 / 344

 

Total: 1313 / 9666-> 13.58% (+891)

 

Thursday:

OV 3D 11:00: 0 / 624

OV 3D 14:00: 6 / 624

OV 3D 17:00: 8 / 624

OV 3D 20:00: 129 / 624

OV 3D 23:00: 10 / 624

 

3D 11:15: 0 / 642

3D 14:15: 10 / 642

3D 17:15: 30 / 642

3D 20:15: 108 / 642

3D 23:15: 2 / 642

 

2D 11:45: 0 / 273 (NEW)

2D 13:15: 3 / 351

2D 16:15: 4 / 351

2D 19:15: 27 / 351 (NEW)

2D 22:15: 0 / 351 (NEW)

 

OV 2D 11:30: 0 / 283 (NEW)

OV 2D 13:00: 0 / 344 (NEW)

OV 2D 16:00: 2 / 344 (NEW)

OV 2D 19:00: 14 / 344 (NEW)

OV 2D 22:00: 0 / 344 (NEW)

 

Total: 353 / 9666 -> 3.65% (+307 / +2634)

 

Friday:

OV 3D 11:00: 0 / 624

OV 3D 14:00: 4 / 624

OV 3D 17:00: 19 / 624

OV 3D 20:00: 95 / 624

OV 3D 23:00: 16 / 624

 

3D 11:15: 2 / 642

3D 14:15: 4 / 642

3D 17:15: 14 / 642

3D 20:15: 132 / 642

3D 23:15: 2 / 642

 

2D 11:45: 0 / 273 (NEW)

2D 13:15: 0 / 351

2D 16:15: 11 / 351

2D 19:15: 12 / 351 (NEW)

2D 22:15: 6 / 351 (NEW)

 

OV 2D 11:30: 0 / 283 (NEW)

OV 2D 13:00: 0 / 344 (NEW)

OV 2D 16:00: 0 / 344 (NEW)

OV 2D 19:00: 8 / 344 (NEW)

OV 2D 22:00: 5 / 344 (NEW)

 

Total: 330 / 9666 -> 3.41% (+249 / +2634)

 

Saturday:

OV 3D 11:00: 2 / 624

OV 3D 14:00: 11 / 624

OV 3D 17:00: 29 / 624

OV 3D 20:00: 51 / 624

OV 3D 23:00: 2 / 624

 

3D 11:15: 8 / 642

3D 14:15: 8 / 642

3D 17:15: 34 / 642

3D 20:15: 49 / 642

3D 23:15: 1/ 642

 

2D 11:45: 0 / 273 (NEW)

2D 13:15: 8 / 351

2D 16:15: 19 / 351

2D 19:15: 6 / 351 (NEW)

2D 22:15: 2 / 351 (NEW)

 

OV 2D 11:30: 0 / 283 (NEW)

OV 2D 13:00: 0 / 344 (NEW)

OV 2D 16:00: 2 / 344 (NEW)

OV 2D 19:00: 2 / 344 (NEW)

OV 2D 22:00: 4 / 344 (NEW)

 

Total: 238 / 9666 -> 2.46% (+190 / +2634)

 

Sunday:

OV 3D 11:00: 4 / 624

OV 3D 14:00: 8 / 624

OV 3D 17:00: 2 / 624

OV 3D 20:00: 13 / 624

OV 3D 23:00: 0 / 624

 

3D 11:15: 0 / 642

3D 14:15: 9 / 642

3D 17:15: 18 / 642

3D 20:15: 18 / 642

3D 23:15: 0 / 642

 

2D 11:45: 0 / 273 (NEW)

2D 13:15: 11 / 351

2D 16:15: 13 / 351

2D 19:15: 0 / 351 (NEW)

2D 22:15: 0 / 351 (NEW)

 

OV 2D 11:30: 0 / 283 (NEW)

OV 2D 13:00: 0 / 344 (NEW)

OV 2D 16:00: 0 / 344 (NEW)

OV 2D 19:00: 9 / 344 (NEW)

OV 2D 22:00: 0 / 344 (NEW)

 

Total: 105 / 9666 -> 1.09% (+82 / +2634)

 

Total WTFSS: 2339 / 48330 -> 4.84% (+1719 / +10536)

Total TFSS: 1026 / 38664 -> 2.65% (+828 / +10536)

2

(T-0)

Don’t know what to make out of this…

This added more available seats for the Wend than for example the total number of seats for Godzilla was or Five Feet Apart and the number of available seats is 85% above the one for Aladdin, or 66% above Spider-Man: Far From Home.

Previews: X + 38 + X = 38 (+17)

Wed: 526 + 466 + 1313 = 2305 (+1618)

Th: 113 + 218 + 353 = 684 (+572)

Fri: 114 + 121 + 330 = 565 (+438)

Sat: 102 + 72 + 238 = 412 (+307)

Sun: 54 + 22 + 105 = 181 (+139)

TFSS: 383 + 433 + 1026 = 1842 / 76171(+1456 / +8050)

PWTFSS: 909 + 937 + 2339 = 4185 / 95290 -> 1.6% (+3091/ +27086) 

 

Well:

For the comps Wednesday will be ignored!

Comps (T-1!) so on Tuesday evening too:

Wend:

Aladdin: 235 => 2250k

John Wick 3: 414 => 1290k

Godzilla: 232 => 1100k

Rocketman: 118 => 1875k

Dark Phoenix: 191 => 1050k

Spider-Man FFH: 1133 => 705k

 

OD-Comps:

Spider-Man FFH: 1139 => 180k

 

That would mean a 5-Day OWend of 885k

 

Cinestar Endgame comps:

Number of available seats is more than double for TLK on opening day and 70% above for the Wend.

But! Endgame got a few more showings added over the Wend so TLK right now is probably around 50% above the final available seat count for Endgame, but Endgame had great sales all throughout the day.

Wednesday: 585 => 300k (if Endgame had around 100k Midnights)

TFSS: 1848 => 350k (This is pretty useless)

Endgame: 460k + 1672k = 2132k

 

Yep, TLK is insanely frontloaded in presales!

And has an insane number of showings. 

 

I expect the average ticket price (high 3D-Share) to be slightly above €10 (=$11.25).

 

And I am not counting small theatres; from the total seat count they are like #9, #14 and #17or18 in Germany. 

 

705k on OWend (4-day) would be only behind B&tB with 848k.

Edited July 17, 2019 by Taruseth

[Inceptionzq]

On 7/13/2019 at 4:09 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Hobbs and Shaw Thursday Night Showings Denver Metro

 

AMC Westminster Promenade 24:

Dolby: 

7 PM – 36/217

10:15 PM – 2/217

2D: 

7 PM – 0/158

7:30 PM – 0/56

10:45 PM – 0/56

11:15 PM – 1/158

 

AMC Highlands Ranch 24:

2D: 

7 PM – 11/159

7:30 PM – 0/52

10:15 PM – 2/159

Total from 9 theaters(26 showings): 144/4243 (3.4%)

I'll probably only update this every few days until TLK comes out 

Hobbs and Shaw Thursday Night Showings Denver Metro

AMC Westminster Promenade 24:

Dolby:

7 PM – 40/217(+4)

10:15 PM – 2/217

2D:

7 PM – 0/158

7:30 PM – 2/56(+2)

10:45 PM – 0/56

11:15 PM – 2/158(+1)

 

AMC Highlands Ranch 24:

2D:

7 PM – 21/159(+10)

7:30 PM – 0/52

10:15 PM – 2/159

Total from 9 theaters(26 showings): 163(+19)/4243 (3.8%)

Yeah, I’m just gonna wait until next week to really start tracking this. One showing just got lucky with a large group.

[RamblinRed]

I just want to say i really appreciate the work that posters put into this thread. 

As far as TLK is concerned. I am not looking at sell outs at all that people post. The only thing that I look at (the only thing I think that actually matters) is how many tickets has it sold relative to other large openers - especially family friendly ones.

 

I expect this to play a little more like a family movie than like a CBM type movie. Locally, the couple of theaters I have checked have strong bookings until the late night shows and then those are almost empty. That is similar to how TS4 played in those same theaters. 

Basically I see it as a super-sized family movie, not a CBM, not a SW type movie.

 

i did look at one other thing that came to my mind tonight. Tuesday shows are selling really well. The 7 pm show at my fav theater is already down to just front row seats (the 10:15 show only has like 9 seats sold). I'm expecting a big Tuesday bump. If it has a 180+ type weekend i think a 30+ Tuesday is likely.

 

[Inceptionzq]

14 minutes ago, RamblinRed said:

I just want to say i really appreciate the work that posters put into this thread. 

As far as TLK is concerned. I am not looking at sell outs at all that people post. The only thing that I look at (the only thing I think that actually matters) is how many tickets has it sold relative to other large openers - especially family friendly ones.

 

I expect this to play a little more like a family movie than like a CBM type movie. Locally, the couple of theaters I have checked have strong bookings until the late night shows and then those are almost empty. That is similar to how TS4 played in those same theaters. 

Basically I see it as a super-sized family movie, not a CBM, not a SW type movie.

 

i did look at one other thing that came to my mind tonight. Tuesday shows are selling really well. The 7 pm show at my fav theater is already down to just front row seats (the 10:15 show only has like 9 seats sold). I'm expecting a big Tuesday bump. If it has a 180+ type weekend i think a 30+ Tuesday is likely.

 

A 30M Tuesday is only 3M below Endgame... that isn’t happening.

This is still an event film, moreso than Toy Story 4. So I don’t think it’ll have a huge Tuesday jump like TS4. I do think it can do high 20s though.

Edited July 17, 2019 by Inceptionzq