The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[el sid]

Hobbs & Shaw, sold tickets for the Thursday previews and for Friday, counted today at ca. 11am EST (a late report but my counting time was the same):

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 451 (total tickets sold for Thursday) / 649 (total tickets sold for Friday, 21 showtimes)
Boston (AMC Assembly Row 12): 247 / 358 ( 13 showtimes)
Boston (Boston Common 19): 174 / 194 (17 showtimes but where is the Sell Out - maybe gone due to the added showtimes?)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 144 / 169 (28 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 70 / 21 (16 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 15 / 82 (8 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Center Point 11): 103 / 86 (13 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 393 / 614 (13 showtimes)
LA (AMC Bay Street): 242 / 208 (18 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 415 / 320 (19 showtimes)
Total tickets sold in 10 theaters till Wednesday for Thursday: 2.254 and for Friday: 2.701.

Stuber had on Wednesday 312 / 285 sold tickets, Crawl 261 / 209 and OUATIH 2.610 / 1.971.
So the Thursday is at the moment under UOATIH?! But many shows were added, maybe that's the reason why a lot of them looked pretty empty with just 0-10 reserved seats. At least it still doesn't look too frontloaded.
I saw that reviews are quite good (better than in Germany - there they're mixed) and probably it will have more walk ups than OUATIH. Still, I expected it to increase more till today.

Edited July 31, 2019 by el sid

[Porthos]

@Thanos Legion to your larger point about JW:FK being a better comp than all the others, maybe.  But it wouldn't have mattered before since H&S's sales were SO anemic that any comp, including JW:FK still would have been in the 2.5 to 3 range.  Until around Sunday or so, KotM was a near perfect parallel to JW:FK locally so it was a perfectly cromulent stand in.

 

Wick 3 was also pretty walkup heavy and perhaps the best comp of all.  Especially since it didn't have 3D and H&S looks to be getting a decent number of PLFs after all.

 

Might drop Pika Pika and swap in JW:FK though.  Or kick out TLK entirely.  I'll think about it.

[TalismanRing]

On 7/30/2019 at 4:02 PM, TalismanRing said:

Hobbs & Shaw (TUES: 4pm)

15/301 (2D)
7/301

14/301

(One new show added  but inaccessible)

25/320 (RPX)
15/320

 

76/1543 =4.92%

 

 

OUITIH: (TUES 2:15pm)  117/1179 = 9.82%  

X-Men 6 (TUES 4pm)  103/942 = 10.93%

TLK: (TUES 4:30pm) 444/3228 = 13.75%

TOY STORY 4: (TUES 14pm) 165/2049 = 8.05%

Aladdin: (TUES: Noon) 98/1242 =7.89%

 

Hobbs & Shaw (WED: 4pm)

27/301 (2D)
14/301

10/301

(One new show added  but inaccessible)

27/320 (RPX)
15/320

 

93/1543 =6.03%

 

OUITIH: (WED 4pm)  159/1179 = 13.48%    -  $3.39m
X-Men 6 (WED 3:15pm)  209/942 = 22.19%  -  $2.22m (really front loaded even for a CBM)

Shazam: (WED: 3:30pm)  129 / 2229 = 5.78% - $4.25m

 

[I'll try and update this around 7pm and give the Preview Ratios with those below]

 

Edit: 9 more tickets sold

 

Hobbs & Shaw (WED: 7pm)

32/301 (2D)
14/301

10/301

(One new show added  but inaccessible)

31/320 (RPX)
15/320

 

102/1543 =6.61%

 

Godzilla 2 (Wed 7:45pm) 135/ 1915 = 7.04%  -  $4.68m

TLK: (WED 7pm)  557/3228 = 17.26% - $4.21m

TOY STORY 4: (WED 7:30) 233/2049 = 11.37% - $5.25m

 

Throwing out the low  and high (CBM & Animation) so far it looks like $3.5-4.5m previews. 

 

Forget the luxury of F&F comps - I wish I had JW:HK or even Skyskraper /  Rampage comps.

Edited July 31, 2019 by TalismanRing

[xiazhi]

3 hours ago, captainwondyful said:

That's a completely different conversation.  

 

(And I just checked . Rampage was 120M and Skyscraper was 125M)

Exactly. You don't give a Rock movie 200m budget. Universal knows what kind of movie H&S is and will market it that way.

[tonytr87]

So this is looking at a sub-60 mil opening, possibly sub-50 mil? Makes sense. F&F is played out and I have no desire to see it, very possible there are many who feel the same way. 

[Alex SciChannel]

12 minutes ago, tonytr87 said:

So this is looking at a sub-60 mil opening, possibly sub-50 mil? Makes sense. F&F is played out and I have no desire to see it, very possible there are many who feel the same way. 

Um no

[tonytr87]

On 7/31/2019 at 4:31 PM, Alex SciChannel said:

Um no

 

That's what I'm reading, [MOD EDIT].

[Alex SciChannel]

10 minutes ago, tonytr87 said:

 

That's what I'm reading, dummy. 

No need for being rude

[Legion Again]

I'm pretty much in agreement with tonytr's range there. You can always hope for being very walkup heavy, but all the warning signs are there for sub-60

[TwoMisfits]

10 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said:

I'm pretty much in agreement with tonytr's range there. You can always hope for being very walkup heavy, but all the warning signs are there for sub-60

The one thing in H&S's favor is its wide release and large showing/screen allocation...plus its partial PLF allocation.  That favorable set up at least gives it a chance to open back within the early tracking range...

[RealLyre]

those numbers are depressing. pretty sure it would do better OS but I was hoping for it to pull a 200M DOM. 

 

 

[Inceptionzq]

On 7/30/2019 at 5:46 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Hobbs and Shaw Thursday Night Showings Denver Metro 

AMC Westminster Promenade 24:

Dolby: 

7 PM – 140/217(+3)

10:15 PM – 17/217(+4)

2D: 

7 PM – 22/158(+3)

7:30 PM – 13/56

10:45 PM – 2/56(+2)

11:15 PM – 2/158

 

AMC Highlands Ranch 24:

2D: 

7 PM – 85/159(+6)

7:30 PM – 6/52(+3)

10:15 PM – 5/159

Total from 9 theaters(29 showings): 629(+85)/4923 (12.8%)

TLK comp: 3.31M

OUATIH comp: 5.13M

Yikes…. If this doesn’t really pick up, then it’s looking bad. At least reviews will bring some awareness tomorrow. Also, TLK comp was actually 3.34M yesterday.. I just omitted that 3 on accident. Not that it's much of a difference anyway

Hobbs and Shaw Thursday Night Showings Denver Metro

AMC Westminster Promenade 24:

Dolby:

7 PM – 140/217

10:15 PM – 27/217(+10)

AMC Prime:

NEW 7:45 PM – 21/187(+21)

NEW 11 PM – 2/187(+2)

2D:

7 PM – 25/158(+3)

7:30 PM – 6/56(-7)

NEW 8:15 PM – 4/36(+4)

10:45 PM – 2/56

11:15 PM – 0/158(-2)

 

 

 

AMC Highlands Ranch 24:

Dolby:

NEW 7 PM – 68/210(+68)

NEW 10:10 PM – 7/210(+7)

2D:

7 PM – 81/159(-4)

7:30 PM – 15/52(+9)

NEW 7:45 PM – 2/85(+2)

NEW 8 PM – 0/41

NEW 8:15 PM – 0/159

NEW 9 PM – 4/85(+4)

NEW 10 PM – 0/85

10:15 PM – 7/159(+2)

Total from 9 theaters(47 showings): 901(+272)/8195(+3272) (11%)

TLK comp: 4.05M

OUATIH comp: 5.62M

Well the PLFs finally getting added helped today. I suspect that a couple showings lost tickets because people wanted to go to the PLF instead. Both comps went up by quite a bit, but unsurprisingly, it’s looking like the OUATIH comp will be the best one. But all depends on that walkup business tomorrow. OUATIH had a huge boost on Thursday.

Edited August 1, 2019 by Inceptionzq

[VanillaSkies]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but how does it make sense to compare H&S Thursday tickets to OUATIH Thursday tickets when Hobbes starts at 7pm and Once started at 4pm. It has a full extra showtime on Thursday. Does that not skew things a little?

[Inceptionzq]

14 minutes ago, VanillaSkies said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but how does it make sense to compare H&S Thursday tickets to OUATIH Thursday tickets when Hobbes starts at 7pm and Once started at 4pm. It has a full extra showtime on Thursday. Does that not skew things a little?

It does. I might try to adjust for that and the PLFs tomorrow. I wouldn’t be using OUATIH if I had better comps, but it’s all I have along with TLK.

[a2k]

OUTAH  was very front-loaded doing just 7x the previews over ow. I feel HS can do better despite being part of a franchise. 8-8.5x probably? But still needs 7m previews with 8-8.5x to have a decent ow going by the prod budget, franchise power and names involved.

[Barnack]

6 minutes ago, a2k said:

OUTAH  was very front-loaded doing just 7x the previews over ow. I feel HS can do better despite being part of a franchise. 8-8.5x probably? But still needs 7m previews with 8-8.5x to have a decent ow going by the prod budget, franchise power and names involved.

Johnson affair can get family heavy.

 

Rampage: 14.89

Skyscraper: 12.77

The Meg: 11.35

Fate and Furious: 9.5

Furious 7: 9.316

[keysersoze123]

On 7/30/2019 at 7:50 PM, keysersoze123 said:

  Reveal hidden contents

 

AMC Empire 25(Previews Hobbs and Shaw)

 

Imax - 251(218)/303 (8PM),32(25)/303 (1115PM) Total: 283(243)/606 +40

Dolby - 213(214)/225 (7PM),117(104)/225 (1015PM) Total: 330(318)/450 +12

2D -48(32)/377(A13 7PM), 12(10)/309(A9 730PM), 12/309(A14 830PM), 5/158(A6 9PM), 8/144(A20 930PM), 9/262(A17 10PM), 4/377 (A13 1030PM),3/309 (A9 1045PM), 7/99(A22 11PM), 4/146(A7 1130PM) Total:112(58)/2490(1681)  +54

9/309(A14 930PM),

Overall -725(619)/3546(2731) (20.4%) +106

 

 

Update on H&S previews at AMC Empire 25. Interesting that Plex added 4 more 2d shows despite 2d shows selling like shit. Now it has 10 2d shows apart from 2 Imax and 2 Dolby shows. Overall sold 106 tickets since my update yesterday but 2d sales are atrocious(sub 5% sold).

 

Unless we see dramatic spike on thursday this is gonna under perform relative to tracking.

T-1 and still the situation is dire for 10 2d shows. Just sold 62 tickets in since the last update. Needs dramatic spike in the last minute. Sadly wont be able to track all the shows till show time as I will be traveling.

 

Spoiler

Hobbs and Shaw previews
AMC Empire 25
Imax - 258(251)/303 (8PM), 42(32)/303 (1115PM) Total: 300(283)/606 +17

Dolby -216(213)/225 (7PM),127(117)/225 (1015PM) Total: 343(330)/450 +13

2D -55(48)/377(A13 7PM), 28(12)/309(A9 730PM), 13(12)/309(A14 830PM), 7(5)/158(A6 9PM), 12(8/)144(A20 930PM), 9/262(A17 10PM), 4/377 (A13 1030PM),3/309 (A9 1045PM), 7/99(A22 11PM), 6(4)/146(A7 1130PM) Total: 144(112)/2490(1681)  +32

 

Overall -787(725)/3546 (22.2%) +62

 

 

[keysersoze123]

22 hours ago, captainwondyful said:

- Next Weekend LS13 is showing it's not having Previews for Dora or Scary Stories.  Empire 25 is; so if @keysersoze123 isn't handling that, will grab those Final Comp numbers.

 

 

Please go ahead. Next movie I am interested in tracking is IT 2. Until then nothing screams must track to me.

Edited August 1, 2019 by keysersoze123

[a2k]

2 hours ago, Barnack said:

Johnson affair can get family heavy.

 

Rampage: 14.89

Skyscraper: 12.77

The Meg: 11.35

Fate and Furious: 9.5

Furious 7: 9.316

Thanks. That's a good point.

Deep summer though might curtail the multi. 9x+ would be great.

Rampage, F7 and F8 were both pre-summer. 

Skyscraper was in July but non-franchise unlike HS.

(The Meg was Statham but I get your point)

 

6.5 previews and 9x+ gives a shot at high 50s/low 60s ow.

[Eric Atreides]

Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	56	857	9,326	9.19%

 

Total Showings Added Today: 2

Total Seats Added Today: 226

Total Seats Sold Today: 230

 

Comps

0.15x of The Lion King 1 day before release (3.5M)

 

Adjusted Comps

0.81x of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood 1 day before release (4.7M)

7.18x of Crawl 1 day before release (7.2M)

8.22x of Stuber 1 day before release (6.2M)

 

Well, it...could be worse? It's still not indicating great results here, but maybe tomorrow's results will really turn things around...maybe.