The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Eric Atreides]

13 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Screen bookings are looking on the low side for IT around here considering the box office isn't exactly booming at the moment and it probably shouldn't have much difficulty securing as many screens possible considering the length of the movie. Starting to think sub-$100M is looking a lot more likely than $100M+.

To play devil's advocate, isn't Dorian still impacting your area?

[filmlover]

3 minutes ago, Eric! said:

To play devil's advocate, isn't Dorian still impacting your area?

Nah, it's passed over (barely made a dent at all around here) and now theaters reopened today. I dunno, the theater I often go to has it on 5 screens for the weekend and usually when a movie is expected to blow up they book it on as many screens as possible (Us ended up on nearly half the screens of this 20 screen multiplex by the time of the last shows earlier this year and that movie was almost an hour shorter than IT 2 is).

[Porthos]

33 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Screen bookings are looking on the low side for IT around here considering the box office isn't exactly booming at the moment and it probably shouldn't have much difficulty securing as many screens possible considering the length of the movie. Starting to think sub-$100M is looking a lot more likely than $100M+.

Just to play devil's advocate myself, screen bookings went nuts here in Sacto.  Even if I adjust for the newish theater, there's still gonna be over 200 Thur showtimes locally.  Only CM/EG and TLK did that out of all the films I have tracked.

 

Personally I think it is a combination of:

 

1) Craptacular summer so theaters locally are scrambling to get something, anything, new and possibly popular.

2) 5pm start time allows for more screenings, especially since the 9pm+ ones are doing decently (and not a surprise given it's a horror film).

 

Gonna start the Sacto count now.  Be back in 75 or so.

Edited September 4, 2019 by Porthos

[Porthos]

It: Chapter 2 Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-2 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	211	19509	22328	2819	12.63%

 

Total Showings Added Today	34*
Total Seats Added Today	2223
Total Seats Sold Today	485

* Includes 5 showings added today from non-reserved seating showings.

 

Not really sure what to use as a comp for this film, since as I understand it horror isn't that pre-sale heavy.  Maybe.  For now, gonna throw in a few recent ones along with JW2 and DP2 and hope for the best.

 

T-2 Adjusted Comps #1 (probably lol - use at own risk)

	%		Sold T-2	Total Sold		Sellouts / Shows	Seats Left / Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
Pika	157.76		300	1785		0/101	7619/9404	18.98%		8.99m
Aladdin	146.21		297	1926		0/116	11970/13896	13.86%		10.23m
KotM	172.02		207	1637		0/120	13471/15108	10.84%		10.84m
TS4	74.48		538	3781		0/147	12719/16500	22.92%		8.94m
TLK	41.23		884	6830		1/263	18651/25481	26.80%		9.48m
It 2 (adj)	n/a		482	2816		0/211	17933/20749	13.57%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE:  It 2 (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for all of the movies in that stat block. See this post for explanation.

 

T-2 Adjusted Comps #2 (probably lol - use at own risk)

	%		Sold T-2	Total Sold		Sellouts / Shows	Seats Left / Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
JW2	74.32		551	3424		0/145	10171/13595	25.19%		11.37m
DP2	50.00		725	5094		0/141	9796/14890	34.21%		9.30m
It 2 (JW adj)	n/a		413	2547		0/211	14379/16926	15.05%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE:  It 2 (JW adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Fallen Kingdom and Deadpool 2.

[Porthos]

Nearly all comps either stayed flat or went up.  10m+ is now looking like a distinct possibility if Sacto is indicative.  The possibly slightly better than (some) expected reviews might be helping as well.

 

My one concern is gonna be the 5pm start time.  I have a couple 4pm start time comps (Pika Pika, KotM) and a few 6pm ones (Aladdin, TS4, TLK). But I don't have any 5pm ones.  Since I stop my track just before first showings, that could matter.  Will very much matter, I suspect, for the JW2/DP2 comp.  

 

Also complicating matters is the lack of 3D.  On the other hand, gotta figure more adult tickets being sold, including a decent percentage outside the matinee window (which is yet another concern, at least locally).

 

All this is to say, It Chapter 2 is clearly on an upswing locally. How much of an upswing, I don't know.  But definitely not flatlining like KotM, FB2, and Solo did.

[FlashMaster659]

It: Chapter 2 Inland Empire Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-2 days

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Seats Left	% Sold
TOTALS	0	225	4810	44628	39818	10.78%

 

Shows Added Today: 61

Seats Added Today: 6903

Seats Sold Today: 890

 

===

 

Holy cow did Tuesday ramp up.

[Legion Again]

17 minutes ago, FlashMaster659 said:

It: Chapter 2 Inland Empire Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-2 days

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Seats Left	% Sold
TOTALS	0	225	4810	44628	39818	10.78%

 

Shows Added Today: 61

Seats Added Today: 6903

Seats Sold Today: 890

 

===

 

Holy cow did Tuesday ramp up.

Sac was +20.8% today, you’re +22.7%. If you had comps I guess they’d have bumped up but nothing huge. 

Edited September 4, 2019 by Thanos Legion

[el sid]

Rambo tickets are on sale now and for Ad Astra you can already see its showtimes and it says "Available Soon". This is the first time that I see that but I guess that means that in a few hours Ad Astra tickets are on sale too, no?
Both times the previews seem to start at 7pm.

Will count It 2 in a few hours.

Edited September 4, 2019 by el sid

[TwoMisfits]

2nd local (Regal) also made their decision today...and if I thought my 1st local held back on It, well, this theater did it one better...they must still be following the "new subscribers want lots of movie options" and when they looked at It 2 presales and the coming September, decided not to do really any clear out, b/c It 2 gets the average supers set, which means far fewer showings b/c of its length...I mean, LOTS of holdovers that I'd have expected to drop stayed on here...here's the set...

 

NEW

It 2 (3.75 - 15 showings) - biggest screens, but only 15 showings - that's a lot lower than I would have thought

 

RETURNING

Angel Has Fallen (1 - 5 showings)

Overcomer (1 - 5 showings)

Ready or Not (1 - 5 showings)

Good Boys (1 - 5 showings)

Dora (1 - 5 showings)

Hobbs and Shaw (1 - 4 showings)

The Lion King (1 - 5 showings)

Angry Birds/Scary Stories (1 - 2 showings/3 showings)

Don't Let Go (.25 - 1 showing - amusingly gets the morning show on an It screen)

 

GONE

47 Meters Down, Blinded by the Light, Toys 4, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (and seems they never rebooked Spidey last weekend - which surprises me, but then again, maybe they don't want subscribers going to a supers movie b/c they could literally go every day:)...none of these movies had more than 1-2 shows last weekend, except Once, so they'd have been who I predicted would drop anyway...

[LookingforMrGoodbar]

On 8/19/2019 at 7:07 PM, Eric! said:

Pretty sure it'll be Ad Astra by default. Speaking of, do you know when tickets start for that film?

Not sure if anyone has answered you yet but they go on sale tomorrow. 

[Eric Atreides]

1 hour ago, LookingforMrGoodbar said:

Not sure if anyone has answered you yet but they go on sale tomorrow. 

Thanks for the heads up! Do you know anything about Jokah yet?

[Cap]

It: Chapter 2

Thursday Previews

 

Southern Maine Cinemagic
Movie	Today		9/1	9/2	9/3	Total	%		SOs	Shows
It: Chapter 2	75		119	131	206	2039	9.89%		0	12

 

Lincoln Square 13
Movie	Today		9/1	9/2	9/3	Total	%		SOs	Shows
It: Chapter 2	68		811	865	933	3772	24.73%		0	11

 

Good push at both places.  

 

Tuesday Before Final Day Comps
Movie	Sold	%	Est
Cinemagic Chain
It: Chapter 2	206	--	--
The Lion King	246	83.73%	19.26M
Godzilla	91	226.37%	14.26M
Toy Story 4	78	264.10%	31.39M
Lincoln Square 13
It: Chapter 2	933	--	--
The Lion King	1860	50.16%	11.53M
Godzilla	924	100.97%	6.36M
Toy Story 4	899	103.78%	12.45M

 

I axed Dark Phoenix cause it's just a trash comp.

 

AGAIN, The Cinemagic Comps are mostly for my amusement.  And to prove how Walk-Up heavy that theater is.  But who knows, it could open to 30M.

 

I don't have numbers for John Wick's Tues before opening, but I do have Wednesday.  I will have those tomorrow.  

 

Lincoln Square's looking "better" compared to the other comps I've seen in the Thread.

[Inceptionzq]

https://deadline.com/2019/09/it-chapter-two-global-box-office-opening-record-1202710502/

 

90M+, maybe 100M domestically

[XXR vs XXR]

23 hours ago, VenomXXR said:

 

It: Chapter 2 — AMC Willowbrook 24 — 2 Days to Previews — 2pm CST

 

Dolby / IMAX: 4 shown times, 218 tickets sold out of 712 seats available (30.62%)

 

Digital: 22 show times, 127 tickets sold out of 1796 seats available (07.07%)

 

 

Total: 26 show times, 345 tickets sold out of 2508 seats available (13.76%)

 

 

It: Chapter 2 — AMC Willowbrook 24 — 1 Day to Previews — 2pm CST

 

Dolby / IMAX: 4 shown times, 265 tickets sold out of 712 seats available (37.22%)

 

Digital: 24 show times, 190 tickets sold out of 1796 seats available (10.58%)

 

 

Total: 28 show times, 455 tickets sold out of 2644 seats available (17.21%)

[el sid]

It 2, counted today at 11am EST:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 472 (total tickets sold for Thursday) / 509 (total tickets sold for Friday, 19 showtimes)
Boston (AMC Assembly Row 12): 401 / 470 (17 showtimes)
Boston (Boston Common 19): 326 / 302 (18 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 382 / 350 (18 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 235 / also 235 (15 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 72 / 95 (12 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Center Point 11): 241 / 207 (12 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 666 / 683 (16 showtimes)
LA (AMC Bay Street): 376 / 272 (14 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 559 / 1.193 (24 showtimes)
Total tickets sold in 10 theaters till Wednesday for Thursday: 3.730 and for Friday: 4.316.

Scary Stories had on Wednesday 261/209, OUATIH 2.610 / 1.974 and H&S 2.254 / 2.701. TLK had 9.101 / 9.705
A lot of new shows were added and there's a big discrepancy between almost sold out shows and almost empty ones. Compared to other big movies that would mean at the moment an OW of more than 80M but under 100M. Idk, on Monday it looked better but OTOH it still doesn't seem to be frontloaded and it could catch up over the weekend...

Edited September 4, 2019 by el sid

[filmlover]

The Wrap:

 

IT 2: $100-110M but WB is expecting $85-90M

 

https://www.thewrap.com/it-chapter-two-box-office/

[Brainbug]

Lets be real: We all want that 100M+ debut. It just looks nicer. But anyone who would call a 80M+ debut "bad" would be nuts in my opinion (this isnt directed at anyone specifically, just in general). A forecast of 90M+ for a R-Rated horror title is just awesome.

[Porthos]

1 hour ago, filmlover said:

The Wrap:

 

IT 2: $100-110M but WB is expecting $85-90M

 

https://www.thewrap.com/it-chapter-two-box-office/

So, WB is "really" expecting 95m-100m, then?  Good to know. 👍

 

[Tinalera]

Toronto ontario canada
IT Chapter 2 
Thursday sept 5

Scotiabank Theatre

No dates (!)

 

Don mills 
VIP
530 0/115
615 10/115
930 46/115
1020 2/115

 

Yorkdale 
AVX
500 21/349
845 48/349

Eglinton Town 

IMAX (removed)

AVX
630 14/383
1015 8/383

 

Yonge eglinton
Vip
530 34/95
600 39/91
93023/95
1000 15/91

Avx 
600 59/300
945 11/300

 

Queensway 

VIP

530 25/111
615 34/135
800 48/56
930 48/100
1015 17/135

AVX
630 73/377
1030 24/377

"X" 
530 28/224
930 13/224

 

Yonge and dundas

VIP

630 56/61
1030 28/61

AVX
615 98/386
945 33/386

IMAX

500 73/356
845 34/356

4DX
530 28/82
900 13/82

911/7389

Works out about 8 percent sold. This is going to be wom and walkup i think up here. Only reason it doesnt make same amount as pt 1 would be people who werent fans of part 1 not showing.

 

Also 3 hour length (plus movie ads and trailers could push this to a 3 and almost 3 and ahalf hour total in theatre time

Edited September 4, 2019 by Tinalera

[Inceptionzq]

Of course the seat map for my biggest theater breaks today