The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[AnDr3s]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             

32 minutes ago, A Star is Orm said:

One thing to be watched that second weekend is the effect of Gemini Man in 3D+ HFR (60 frames per second.) A number of the Cinemarks in Salt Lake are giving their PLF/biggest screens to Gemini in order to showcase this new format, and that could amplify Joker's second weekend drop beyond what might otherwise be expected.

 

 

60 fps?

aren't movies shot at 24 fps?

[Old Spice]

14 minutes ago, AnDr3s said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             

60 fps?

aren't movies shot at 24 fps?

That's the standard frame rate, yes. I'll defer to the experts on here to explain why 60 would be double the fun, but Cinemark's advertising promises that it will be "an amplified, fully-immersive 3D experience."

 

 

[RealLyre]

so 100M opening is dead? is the joker controversy affecting sales or something 

[cax16]

I probably won’t be able to update again till Monday as I’m out for the day and night tomorrow.

 

 

New tracking info - 27 theatres total( 5 not reporting yet) info below from 22 theatres 

 

Joker day 1 presales (5am on Tuesday)- 1275 tickets across all theatres.

 

Joker day 4 of presales (8:30pm Thursday) - 2609 tickets across all theatres. 

 

Joker day 5 of presales (8:15pm Friday) - 3183 tickets across all theatres. 

 

 

Joker day 6 of presales (8:45pm Saturday) - 3482 tickets across all theatres.

[cax16]

On 9/4/2019 at 5:42 PM, Tinalera said:

Toronto ontario canada
IT Chapter 2 
Thursday sept 5

Scotiabank Theatre

No dates (!)

 

Don mills 
VIP
530 0/115
615 10/115
930 46/115
1020 2/115

 

Yorkdale 
AVX
500 21/349
845 48/349

Eglinton Town 

IMAX (removed)

AVX
630 14/383
1015 8/383

 

Yonge eglinton
Vip
530 34/95
600 39/91
93023/95
1000 15/91

Avx 
600 59/300
945 11/300

 

Queensway 

VIP

530 25/111
615 34/135
800 48/56
930 48/100
1015 17/135

AVX
630 73/377
1030 24/377

"X" 
530 28/224
930 13/224

 

Yonge and dundas

VIP

630 56/61
1030 28/61

AVX
615 98/386
945 33/386

IMAX

500 73/356
845 34/356

4DX
530 28/82
900 13/82

911/7389

Works out about 8 percent sold. This is going to be wom and walkup i think up here. Only reason it doesnt make same amount as pt 1 would be people who werent fans of part 1 not showing.

 

Also 3 hour length (plus movie ads and trailers could push this to a 3 and almost 3 and ahalf hour total in theatre time

Just to use this list once again as a comp, this is for IT2 the day before preview night, Joker has surpassed sales at all of these locations already by today.  The numbers below are total tickets sold so far for Joker for each theatre. 

 

Don mills -91

Yorkdale - 92

Eglinton town - 66

Yonge and Eglinton- 202

queensway- 341

Yonge and Dundas - 368

 

[excel1]

27 minutes ago, RealLyre said:

so 100M opening is dead? is the joker controversy affecting sales or something 

LOL this is doing $150m+ cmon now

[Legion Again]

29 minutes ago, RealLyre said:

so 100M opening is dead? is the joker controversy affecting sales or something 

I’d give it about a 20% chance with what we’re seeing, which is similar to what I would have said 1,5, and 10 weeks ago. Still 5 days to go and if it continues to show unusually big regional variation that will only increase the uncertainty.

Edited September 29, 2019 by Thanos Legion

[MattW]

34 minutes ago, RealLyre said:

so 100M opening is dead? is the joker controversy affecting sales or something 

I'm leaning away from 100m. I think the tracking is probably about right, around 80m

[Cap]

2 hours ago, DAJK said:

I could definitely see Joker being very frontloaded on previews/OD or OW (skewed towards Thursday/Friday numbers). Many people will call doom and gloom for legs, but it will stabilize throughout October, and may not have the best legs but will be pretty solid for a blockbuster. 

This is where I've been privately (cause LOL @ going in the Joker Thread right now) for months.  

[SURAJ]

After an $80M wknd, what you guys think of it's legs multiplier? 2x or 2.5x?

 

 

[Porthos]

6 minutes ago, SURAJ said:

After an $80M wknd, what you guys think of it's legs multiplier? 2x or 2.5x?

Logan got 2.56x off an 88m OW.  It might be the best potential comp out there if one sets aside the controversy angle (which I know is somewhat silly to do).

[Legion Again]

If it’s 80, I’d guess something like:  

80  

30 weekdays  

32 weekend   

+2.5x, 222M   

 

Logan and Venom seem like Decent comps.

Edited September 29, 2019 by Thanos Legion

[SURAJ]

Edit

[Menor the Destroyer]

I had an error with the Thursday data for today, fixing that glitch (hopefully) for tomorrow. As of this morning:

 

Joker Friday:

Showings: 3144 (+295)

Theaters 258 (+0)

Seats Sold: 19388 (+2828)

Seats Available: 550353 (+38747)

Estimated ATP: 12.22

Estimated Total Sales: 236829 (+34104)

Estimated Nationwide Sales: 2 million (+0.3 million)

 

Estimated Total Sales (adj): 211126 (23% of the Lion King at the same point before release)

 

Not really seeing the kind of growth I'd like, but there's still a lot of time and Friday and Saturday do tend to be slower days for presales.

[Old Spice]

Salt Lake Valley report for Joker, 5 days before preview night.

 

Salt Lake City 

Sugarhouse Cinemark, 8 showtimes.

Total 93/631 14.7%

Tickets sold today- 9

 

116% of Dark Phoenix final

93% of Godzilla "

84% of John Wick "

50% of Pika "

46% of OUATIH "

26% of IT: Chapter 2 "

 

Greater Salt Lake

Cinemark West Jordan, 3 showtimes (PLF only) 54/645

Cinemark Farmington , 3 showtimes, (PLF only) 33/438

Total 87/1083 8%

Tickets sold today- 10

 

Treading water in Salt Lake, pretty much as expected for a Saturday before opening. Looking for the real test to start tomorrow.

 

 

 

[filmlover]

I feel like Joker's marketing campaign peaked with the first trailer in terms of effectiveness IMO. Currently predicting $84M next weekend because it feels right all things considered. And it would be a crazy good amount for this type of movie too. Batman level cash was always a pipe dream.

[Eric Duncan]

Joker Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-5 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	108	1,381	24,387	5.66%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 117

 

Comp

1.143x of It: Chapter Two 5 days before release (12M)

 

Adjusted Comp

3.458x of Hobbs & Shaw 5 days before release (20.06M)

Edited September 29, 2019 by Eric!

[Eric Duncan]

Maleficent: Mistress of Evil Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-19 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	30	105	7,802	1.35%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 3

 

Comp

0.171x of It: Chapter Two 19 days before release (1.79M)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.958x of Hobbs & Shaw 19 days before release (5.55M)

[Legion Again]

7 minutes ago, Eric! said:

1.143x of Joker 5 days before release

🤔

Edited September 29, 2019 by Thanos Legion

[Eric Duncan]

6 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said:

🤔

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