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Really depends on what you're looking for, but usually the most important takeaway for just a casual glance is the comp.  More on that in a bit.   But even that is highly dependent on a movie being either in a similar genre or having a similar pre-sale pattern as folks will buy tickets at different times during a pre-sale window thanks to a very long list of factors.   Add in that movies will have different promotional schedules during their pre-sales (review embargoes, TV ca
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MODERATION:   Hi, everyone. It’s 6 o’clock in the morning. I have not gone to bed yet. And I am tired. And I know it’s going to be a very long weekend. Here is the new rule.   This thread is for numbers and data. Please post your theater updates. Please post your comparable data. And please talk about that comparable data here.    If you wish to do a deep dive on why you think that data might or might not suck, then take it to the respective thread of the movie in ques
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13 minutes ago, DAJK said:

Gemini Man seems like the type of movie that will do o/u 10x its preview number (probably less). So a 2.5M preview could indicate low-20s is possible, probably not much more than that though. 

Don’t take my prediction as absolute. Its just an instinctive call based on how well its doing in Imax/PLF in major markets. its going to triple or do more than that in AMC and so I extrapolated from what i felt for Addams. But we should know for better tomorrow evening once previews start. But I am skeptical on 30m OW for Gemini Man and Addams family for sure. But I could see Gemini Man beating Addams family with strong performance in big markets. Either way I am feeling Joker 2nd weekend  > GM + AF despite losing some Imax/PLF screens.

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On 10/8/2019 at 3:59 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Addams Family Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24  
3D:    
5:00 PM 3 56
7:30 PM 15 56
9:45 PM 1 56
2D:    
4:00 PM 8 94
6:30 PM 4 94
9:00 PM 4 94
     
Total 35 450

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD TODAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS  SHOWINGS
81 25 3774 2.15% 7 30

 

Showings added: 4

Seats added: 247

 

Abominable comp: 1.6M

 

Big increase thanks to T-Mobile Tuesday. But Abominable still had a relatively good day, so it didn't change the comp by much.

Addams Family Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24    
Dolby:    
4:00 PM 0 217
3D:    
5:00 PM 3 56
7:30 PM 15 56
9:45 PM 2 56
2D:    
4:00 PM 9 94
6:30 PM 4 94
9:00 PM 4 94
     
Total 37 667
AMC Highlands 24    
Dolby:    
4:00 PM 7 210
3D:    
5:30 PM 4 52
2D:    
7:00 PM 0 85
     
Total 11 347

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD TODAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS  SHOWINGS
115 34 5451 2.11% 9 44

 

Showings added: 14

Seats added: 1677

 

Abominable comp: 1.19M

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On 10/8/2019 at 4:15 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Gemini Man Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24    
Prime 3D:    
7:00 PM 43 187
9:50 PM 7 187
2D:    
7:00 PM 21 92
10:20 PM 2 92
     
Total 73 558

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD TODAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS  SHOWINGS
135 18 3182 4.24% 7 21

 

Showings added: 2

Seats added: 136

 

Ad Astra comp: 1.73M

Adjusted Rambo comp: 2.09M

 

The Westminster 3D showings said they were sold out, which they're not. So I wasn't able to get a count for them. But the comps shouldn't be thrown off by too much

Gemini Man Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24    
Prime 3D:    
7:00 PM 45 187
9:50 PM 7 187
IMAX    
7:00 PM 1 411
10:05 PM 0 411
2D:    
7:00 PM 26 92
8:00 PM 0 44
9:00 PM 0 44
10:20 PM 2 92
     
Total 81 1468
AMC Highlands 24    
IMAX:    
7:00 PM 0 384
Dolby:    
7:00 PM 10 210
3D:    
7:45 PM 3 85
2D:    
8:15 PM 0 159
     
Total 13 838

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD TODAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS  SHOWINGS
184 49 6421 2.87% 9 37

 

Showings added: 16

Seats added: 3239

 

Adjusted Ad Astra comp: 1.64M

Adjusted Rambo comp: 2M

Hobbs comp: 1.18M

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On 10/8/2019 at 4:36 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Maleficent: Mistress of Evil Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24  
3D:    
7:30 PM 19 48
10:20 PM 4 48
2D:    
7:00 PM 16 158
10:05 PM 1 158
     
Total 40 412

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD TODAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS  SHOWINGS
86 1 2957 2.91% 7 23

 

Lion King comp: 1.12M

 

You'd think a 40M+ OW would be selling more than 1 ticket per day at this point...

Maleficent: Mistress of Evil Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24  
3D:    
7:30 PM 19 48
10:20 PM 4 48
2D:    
7:00 PM 20 158
10:05 PM 1 158
     
Total 44 412

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD TODAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS  SHOWINGS
90 4 3150 2.86% 7 24

 

Showings added: 1

Seats added: 193

 

Lion King comp: 1.08M

 

Well... at least it sold more than 1 today.

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On 10/6/2019 at 5:24 PM, VenomXXR said:

Maleficent: Mistress of Evil -- AMC Willowbrook 24 -- 11 Days to Previews -- 5:00pm CST

 

Digital: 1 showing, 22 tickets sold out of 125 available (17.60%)

 

On 10/6/2019 at 5:32 PM, VenomXXR said:

Gemini Man -- AMC Willowbrook 24 -- 4 Days to Previews -- 530pm CST 

 

IMAX/Dolby: 35 tickets sold out of 507 seats available (06.90%)

Digital: 1 ticket sold out of 250 seats available (00.4%)

 

Total: 36 tickets sold out of 757 seats available (04.76%)

 

Maleficent: Mistress of Evil -- AMC Willowbrook 24 -- 8 Days to Previews -- 6:00pm CST

 

Digital: 1 showing, 26 tickets sold out of 125 available (20.80%)

 

 

 

Gemini Man -- AMC Willowbrook 24 -- 1 Days to Previews -- 6:00pm CST 

 

IMAX/Dolby: 3 showings, 82 tickets sold out of 507 seats available (16.17%%)

Digital: 4 showings, 1 ticket sold out of 250 seats available (00.4%)

 

Total: 7 showings, 83 tickets sold out of 757 seats available (10.96%)

 

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As @keysersoze123 reported earlier, Joker is having a terrific hold today. Here are the evening counts for SLC's Sugarhouse Cinemark. Last night was about 92% over the same period.

 

5:00 PM 29/62

6:00 PM 44/62

7:00 PM 80/107

8:00 PM 64/66

9:00 PM 60/66

 

Total 277/363 76.3%

 

No more excuses about pent up demand coming into play, this thing is on 🔥

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4 minutes ago, A Star is Orm said:

As @keysersoze123 reported earlier, Joker is having a terrific hold today. Here are the evening counts for SLC's Sugarhouse Cinemark. Last night was about 92% over the same period.

 

5:00 PM 29/62

6:00 PM 44/62

7:00 PM 80/107

8:00 PM 64/66

9:00 PM 60/66

 

Total 277/363 76.3%

 

No more excuses about pent up demand coming into play, this thing is on 🔥

its definitely beating final number of Monday. That is crazy good. Even if AMC over indexes I dont see it having a big monday to wednesday drop.

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Gemini Man Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 44 359 7,180 5.00%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 91

 

Comp

0.262x of Once Upon 1 day before release (1.52M)

1.786x of Angel Has Fallen 1 day before release (2.68M)

0.150x of It: Chapter Two 1 day before release (1.58M)

1.408x of Ad Astra 1 day before release (2.11M)

1.734x of Rambo 1 day before release (2.25M)

0.104x of Joker 1 day before release (1.39M)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.309x of Hobbs & Shaw 1 day before release (1.79M)

 

So I messed up yesterday. Instead of 21 tickets sold, it was actually 31. It really do be like that sometimes. Anyway, this is on a much better path than yeesterday, as a lot of the comps are above 2M. If Thursday sells like hotcakes, this could do okay.

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Jexi Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 17 24 2,159 1.11%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 2

Total Seats Added Today: 412

Total Seats Sold Today: 10

 

Comp

0.216x of Stuber 1 day before release (162K)

 

T-1 decreasing from T-2 is never good, but...at least the Stuber comp increased?

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The Addams Family Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 47 217 6,287 3.45%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 43

 

Comp

1.736x of Dora 1 day before release (2.17M)

2.818x of Abominable 1 day before release (1.83M)

 

This is even worse than Jexi's hold. Even if Tuesday overperformed, this is inexcusable, and does put the movie in a more vulnerable position. But hey, walk-ups should still be strong, so maybe this is just alarmist nonsense who knows?

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Maleficent: Mistress of Evil Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-8 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 32 145 8,464 1.71%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 1

 

Comp

0.147x of It: Chapter Two 8 days before release (1.54M)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.041x of Lion King 8 days before release (941K)

0.472x of Hobbs & Shaw 8 days before release (2.74M)

 

LMAO of course this only sells one ticket today. Of course

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Terminator: Dark Fate Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-22 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 36 65 8,792 0.74%


Total Showings Added Today: 2

Total Seats Added Today: 275

Total Seats Sold Today: 6

 

Comp

0.116x of It: Chapter Two 22 days before release (1.22M)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.672x of Hobbs & Shaw 22 days before release (3.9M)

 

Decent stuff. Good stuff. Nothing else to report here

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On 10/8/2019 at 9:32 PM, keysersoze123 said:

Mal2 (T-9)

AMC(747 shows) - 9712/154743(+459)
Cinemark(1056 shows) - 3986/142837

 

I am able to retrieve Cinemark data as well. More shows but smaller screens overall. AMC has shown good bump compared to past 2 days.

I have not tracked cinemark previously and so comparable data. AMC finished for joker at 137632/484905. So we have ways to go to project final number for Mal 2.

Mal2 (T-8)

AMC(747 shows) - 10093/152118 (+381)

Cinemark(1056 shows) - 4203/142620(+217)

 

I guess it will be under 12k before start of next week and then hopefully it accelerates. I think previews are looking sub 5m at this point.

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12 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Looked at Addams family previews and OD at AMC and data is not pretty.

 

Previews - 6393/155228 (1169 shows)
OD -13523/372510 (2557 shows)

 

While I am new to this but it looks like < 1m previews and definitely not 30m OW but more like 20m OW optimistically. I could however be wrong. I will add Cinemark previews shortly. I doubt they will change my thoughts a lot.

 

of course this could be a walk ups monster and so I will update tomorrow night to see how did walk ups go for this tomorrow.

Addams Family Previews (T-1)

8487/150835 (1169 shows) +2094

 

Its not a bad increase. Let us see how things go tomorrow for it.

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The Addams Family
Theater Today   10/7 10/8 10/9 Total %   Shows
SM Cinemagic 0   2 2 2 678 0.29%   9
AMC 25 37   40 55 92 947 9.71%   7
Lincoln Square 13 11   20 27 38 972 3.91%   3
                   
Gemini Man
Theater Today   10/7 10/8 10/9 Total %   Shows
SM Cinemagic 1   0 -- 1 778 0.13%   8
AMC 25 80   291 -- 371 1893 19.60%   7
Lincoln Square 13 65   174 -- 239 960 24.90%   2
                   
Terminator
Theater Today   10/7 10/8 10/9 Total %   Shows
SM Cinemagic 0   0 -- 0 677 0.00%   4
AMC 25 15   86 -- 101 1994 5.06%   7
Lincoln Square 13 13   139 -- 152 1554 9.78%   4
                   
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil
Theater Today   10/7 10/8 10/9 Total %   Shows
SM Cinemagic 0   1 -- 1 1023 0.09%   9
Lincoln Square 13 20   164 -- 184 960 19.16%   2

 

 

 

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Terminator dark fate oct 31
Toronto ontario canada 
Taken oct 10 2019

 

Yonge Dundas

VIP

730 3 /76
1030 2/76


4DX
700 3/78
1000 1/78

 

Scotia place
IMAX
730 8/416
1030 0 /416

 

Yonge eglington
VIP
700 0/91
1000 0/134


AVX

730/0/349
1030 0/391

 

Eglington town
IMAX
700 1/335
1000 0335

 

Don Mills
VIP
700 0/114
1000 0/114


Yorkdale

AVX
700 0/349
1000 0/349

Queensway
 700


Queensway
IMAX
700 0/377
1015 0/377

 

18/4455

 

Pretty self explaining. Obviously more seats will be released as some movies get dropped. 2 weeka out i thought be a little more. Couple in my friends group didnt even know it was coming out. So we shall see where it goes.
 

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https://deadline.com/2019/10/terminator-dark-fate-box-office-opening-weekend-projection-1202756808/

 

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Industry projections this morning see Paramount/Skydance’s Terminator: Dark Fate at a $40M+ domestic start when it opens on Nov. 1.

 

We hear that the TV spot campaign for Dark Fate is about to kick into high gear. That said, note there’s a lot of upside here for Dark Fate to go significantly higher. Not only does the movie bring Cameron, Hamilton and Schwarzenegger back together, it returns the series to its R rating. That’s a big deal in regards to octane, as Miller exclaimed to Hall H at San Diego Comic-Con. The last two Terminator movies, Genisys and Salvation were PG-13. Should Dark Fate best the 3-day opening of 2003’s Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines ($44M), it will rep a record weekend debut for the franchise. We hear Dark Fate has a lock on men older and younger.

 

The other wide entry competition for the pre-Veterans Day weekend doesn’t look so hot: Entertainment Studios’ animated pic Arctic Dogs is seeing $5M, Warner Bros.’ Edward Norton noir Motherless Brooklyn is eyeing $6M and Focus Features Harriet about abolitionist and political activist Harriet Tubman is projected at $8M.

 

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Should Dark Fate best the 3-day opening of 2003’s Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines ($44M), it will rep a record weekend debut for the franchise

What a low bar they're setting, lol.

Still, maybe it can do over 50, to look respectable, and it has decent legs.

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