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21 minutes ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

So basically around $300k till Wednesday in around 30-35% market. 

you could be close but that needs visibility into market split, domination of Imax/PLF and one thing I dont have is how many are kid tickets. Joker was R rated and so kid tickets. 

 

I looked at old fashioned way of few prime theaters in NYC and apart from Prime time Imax/PLF shows which have good occupancy, its almost empty except few shows here and there. I am impressed with overall number. So its not dependent on big cities over performing. But that also means lower average ticket prices.

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Maleficent: Mistress of Evil Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 48 310 11,144 2.78%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 3

Total Seats Added Today: 350

Total Seats Sold Today: 67

 

 

Comp

2.480x of Dora 1 day before release (3.10M)

4.026x of Abominable 1 day before release (2.62M)

1.429x of Addams Family 1 day before release (1.79M)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.039x of Lion King 1 day before release(896K)

0.258x of Hobbs & Shaw 1 day before release (1.50M)

 

This was actually a great day, and a needed one. Being steady or increasing from comps is always good, and while I still can't see 40M+ just yet, one great day full of walk-ups tomorrow can really turn things around.

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5 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

 

Zombieland OD

AMC - 15876/422396 ( 2665 shows)

Cin - 8656/289259 ( 2525 shows)

 

 

Definitely showing strong signs of OW bing frontloaded since Friday PS at AMC just on part with Previews while for Maleficent its way higher. Not sure what to predict for its OW as its looking grim.

 

Edit: FYI I quoted last update for Thursday Previews as comparison as I am tracking Zombieland OD PS for the 1st time.

 

 

Not too different from Scary Stories Cinemark sales at that point fwiw.

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12 minutes ago, Eric Addams said:

Being steady or increasing from comps is always good, and while I still can't see 40M+ just yet, one great day full of walk-ups tomorrow can really turn things around.

Box Office Pro predicted $36 – 46 million for Maleficent, so it might end up being those numbers or 50M by the time the weekend comes in. We shall see.

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Zombieland: Double Tap Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 38 444 6,252 7.10%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 102

 

Comp

2.864x of Crawl 1 day before release (2.86M)

4.000x of Stuber 1 day before release (3.00M)

0.324x of Once Upon 1 day before release (1.88M)

1.580x of Scary Stories 1 day before release (3.68M)

0.186x of It: Chapter Two 1 day before release (1.95M)

0.129x of Joker 1 day before release (1.72M)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.365x of Hobbs & Shaw 1 day before release (2.12M)

 

Decided to add in a couple more comps for fun. This wasn't as impressive as Maleficent today, but I guess it still held okay as is. We'll see if walkups turn up like some people are predicting (though I myself have some doubts)

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Terminator: Dark Fate Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-15 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 36 96 8,792 1.09%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 4

 

Comp

0.134x of It: Chapter Two 15 days before release (1.41M)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.542x of Hobbs & Shaw 15 days before release (3.15M)

 

 

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17 hours ago, Tinalera said:

Terminator dark fate oct 31
Toronto ontario canada 
Taken oct 16 2019

 

Yonge Dundas

VIP

730 3 /76
1030 2/76


4DX
700 3/78
1000 2/78

 

Scotia place
IMAX
730 28/416
1030 2 /416

 

Yonge eglington
VIP
700 3/91
1000 0/134


AVX

730/0/349
1030 0/391

 

Eglington town
IMAX
700 1/335
1000 0335

 

Don Mills
VIP
700 0/114
1000 0/114


Yorkdale

AVX
700 0/349
1000 2/349


Queensway
IMAX
700 6/377 
1015 0/377

46/4455

 

6 days later 28 more sales. Thats it. Far too early out still but people just not feeling it so far up here. The numbers are what they are. Would have thought that thered be a little more interest esp.cameron coming back with arnie and linda. We shall see if it picks up but quiet thus far.
 

 

Many audience are waiting for the reviews.  (US reviews will come out on Oct 22)

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12 hours ago, Eric Addams said:

Maleficent: Mistress of Evil Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 48 310 11,144 2.78%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 3

Total Seats Added Today: 350

Total Seats Sold Today: 67

 

 

Comp

2.480x of Dora 1 day before release (3.10M)

4.026x of Abominable 1 day before release (2.62M)

1.429x of Addams Family 1 day before release (1.79M)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.039x of Lion King 1 day before release(896K)

0.258x of Hobbs & Shaw 1 day before release (1.50M)

 

This was actually a great day, and a needed one. Being steady or increasing from comps is always good, and while I still can't see 40M+ just yet, one great day full of walk-ups tomorrow can really turn things around.

Do you have a comp to Dumbo...I really think, other than the Regal subscriber bump, that that movie is most on point...

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Don't know if I asked this, but does anyone know what Maleficent 2's budget and breakeven is? I haven't seen anything about how much the sequel costs other than the budget for the first film and that's about it.

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1 hour ago, Xftg123 said:

Don't know if I asked this, but does anyone know what Maleficent 2's budget and breakeven is? I haven't seen anything about how much the sequel costs other than the budget for the first film and that's about it.

 

This is Disney shell company for that production:

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10986069/filing-history

 

Gross spending seem to have been 121.4 million pound has of september 30, 2018, around 158m USD (1.3036 * 121.4) with what seem a good 24M pound in tax credit.

 

Film wrapped august 24, 2018 so it must be most of the budget, but you have a year of post production and I imagine some form of pick up, would imagine a net budget similar to the rumored first one 180m ? Will maybe have an better idea on the next account update (ideally dated before any bonus kick in)

 

Break even is quite dependent on Joe Roth/Jolie/Woolverton deal (how much bonus if any start before break even, for such giant names and on a sequel of a giant success it can be big) and market's breakdown, could happen at 385M, could be at 550.

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Counted today at ca. 11am EST:
Maleficent 2:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 211 (total tickets sold for Thursday) / 323 (total tickets sold for Friday, 11 showtimes)
Boston (AMC Assembly Row 12): 80 / 124 (13 showtimes)
Boston (Boston Common 19): 75 / 104 (9 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 221 / 224 (10 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 24 / 32 (11 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 31 / 33 (8 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Center Point 11): 29 / 43 (11 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters till Thursday for Thursday: 671 (yesterday 572) and for Friday: 883 (yesterday 681). OUATIH had 1.603 and 1.375 sold tickets in these 7 theaters.

Unfortunately a massive error occured (as often) when I wanted to count in San Francisco so I can only see the jump compared to yesterday in 7 theaters: It went up 17% (Thursday) and 30% (Friday).
Overall it's still the same: With nice walk ups it could l have a decent weekend but its presales alone don't convince me, not at all. The only good news is that indeed it doesn't look frontloaded.

Zombieland 2:
Counted today at ca. 7am (so 4 hours earlier than usually and its numbers would normally be slightly higher):

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 126 (total tickets sold for Thursday) / 179 (total tickets sold for Friday, 7 showtimes)
Boston (AMC Assembly Row 12): 79 / 80 (10 showtimes)
Boston (Boston Common 19): 57 / 118 (10 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 91 / 100 (10 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 69 / 107 (9 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 49 / 36 (6 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Center Point 11): 73 / 42 (4 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 272 / 302 (9 showtimes)
LA (AMC Bay Street): 55 / 106 (13 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 247 / 139 (11 showtimes)
Total tickets sold in 10 theaters till Thursday for Thursday: 1.118 and for Friday: 1.209.

Comps: Angel has Fallen had on Thursday – but later in the day – 654/580, Good Boys had 1.065/965 and Scary Stories 1.096/754 sold tickets.
A mediocre jump compared to yesterday but it still looks good. Also less frontloaded than e.g. Scary Stories. I would go with 20M+ at the moment but if this film really has good walk ups (no idea) then it could even reach 25M I think.

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Scotty Mendelson mentioned in his Doctor Sleep article the film's tracking for 25M. Still a bit surprised at that low of a number. I would feel like with King being a bigger name and The Shining being so iconic it could at least go pass 40M on OW. But hey, at least I have one less movie to worry about.

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On 10/15/2019 at 3:16 PM, belligerent talking robot said:

50.0 - Maleficent 2 - 50.0
30.0 - Joker - 250.0
24.0 - Zombieland 2 - 24.0
13.5 - The Addams Family - 54.0
11.5 - Gemini Man - 40.0
3.5 - Abominable - 54.5
3.0 - Downtown Abbey - 88.5
2.5 - Hustlers - 102.5
2.0 - It: Chapter Two - 210.5

Doctor Sleep - 20/60

Zombieland: Double Tap - 20/55

Maleficent - 45/135

Terminator - 45/115

Midway - 40/110

Charlie's Angels - 40/110

Frozen 2 - 110/375

Knives Out - 30/45/100

Jumanji - 80/250

Star Wars - 250/750  (Avatar was only up 220 on TDK)

 

Theater counts:

It: Chapter Two (-303)

Hustlers (-357)

Downtown Abbey (-319)

Abominable (-496)

 

Maleficent - 45

Joker - 27/245

Zombieland - 20

Addams Family - 13.5/54.0

Gemini Man - 11.5/40.0

Abominable - 3.5/54.0

Downtown Abbey - 3.5/89.0

Hustlers - 2.5/102.3

It: Chapter Two - 2.0/210.2

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1 hour ago, Eric Addams said:

I would feel like with King being a bigger name and The Shining being so iconic it could at least go pass 40M on OW. But hey, at least I have one less movie to worry about.

I did some online searching and The Shining didn't really become iconic until a couple years down the line. Yes, it did make profit at the box office, but the reception of the film was polarizing/mixed at first. It even was nominated for a few Razzies back then too. Later on though as the years went by, it was met with praise, became one of the greatest horror films of all time, and ended up getting into iconic status. And to this day, King still isn't a fan of the adaptation, mainly due to how much the movie has changed compared to the novel.

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