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Frozen 2 - Various theater chains (Michigan) - Premiere Night Seat Report: T-10 days and counting

11/11/2019 Showings Seats Left Total Seats Seats Sold Pct. Sold
Total 73 15,786 16,739 953 5.69%
           
Theater Showings Seats Left Total Seats Seats Sold Pct. Sold
Ada Lowell 5 - - - - -
AMC FORUM 30 8 2,439 2,470 31 1.26%
AMC GRAND RAPIDS 18 5 304 393 89 22.65%
AMC HOLLAND 8 2 168 198 30 15.15%
AMC JOHN R 15 3 245 315 70 22.22%
AMC LIVONIA 20 5 1,380 1,403 23 1.64%
AMC PORTAGE STREET 10 2 274 310 36 11.61%
AMC STAR GRATIOT 15 6 632 656 24 3.66%
AMC STAR GREAT LAKES 25 7 2,016 2,051 35 1.71%
AMC STAR SOUTHFIELD 20 4 1,752 1,766 14 0.79%
AMC WOODHAVEN VILLAGE 10 2 182 219 37 16.89%
Bay City 10 GDX - - - - -
Celebration Cinema Benton 2 154 172 18 10.47%
Celebration Cinema Crossroads 5 742 862 120 13.92%
Celebration Cinema GR North 4 1,437 1,548 111 7.17%
Celebration Cinema GR South 3 884 914 30 3.28%
Celebration Cinema Lansing 5 640 711 71 9.99%
Celebration Cinema Mt Pleasant 2 562 582 20 3.44%
Celebration Cinema Rivertown 3 974 1,035 61 5.89%
Cinema Carousel 2 401 458 57 12.45%
Holland 7 - - - - -
Krafft 8 - - - - -
Quality 10 GDX - - - - -
Studio C Meridian Mall 1 134 150 16 10.67%
W. Columbia 7 - - - - -
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4 minutes ago, Eric Plus said:

I was at the movies a couple weeks back, and some teenage girls were passing a Charlie's Angels poster in the lobby and were making fun of the movie and KStew. Probably a little harsh, but it stuck in my head for a while

Funny, I went to the movies last month and was sitting close to the Terminator standee and overheard someone say to their friend "another Terminator movie? Let it die already!" (a sentiment that clearly ended up being widespread). We should take these as signs for when a movie is about to flop. :lol:

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Charlie's Angels Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 45 79 10,100 0.78%

 

Comp

0.290x of Hustlers 3 days before release (726K)

0.184x of Downton Abbey (387K)

0.361x of Maleficent (830K)

2.821x of Last Christmas (1.62M)

 

Yeah, sub-1M would be downright abysmal. But hey, I'm optimistic, maybe things will perk up. At the very least, I know the Downton comp will definitely perk up.

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Ford v Ferrari Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 29 126 6,192 2.03%

 

Comp

0.193x of Once Upon 3 days before release (1.12M)

1.059x of Angel Has Fallen (1.59M)

0.802x of Ad Astra (1.20M)

0.875x of Rambo (1.14M)

0.494x of Terminator (1.16M)

1.273x of Doctor Sleep (1.91M)

3.405x of Midway (3.15M)

 

It's better than Angels. But still not great. Comps are a bit more scattered, but the lower range would definitely be bad and would point to an opening in the teens. But it does seem to be playing well in other areas, so maybe my stuff should be met with more of a grain of salt, and the comp scene could change drastically in the next couple days

 

btw I know Doctor Sleep's 1.5M includes the Fandango sneaks, but I have no idea how much, so I'm just using the 1.5M as is. 😔

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7 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

At last I have some macro data from AMC for F2.


F2 Day 2(since I thought this would be most important day from OW perspective).

overall 3535 shows 64675/742277  post 6PM 1650 shows 15204/350817

Special Dolby Screening(103 shows) - 8738/19724

Overall - 73413/762001

 

Just above Cinemark Day 2. normally Cinemark is like 60% of AMC. Still big numbers considering there is 12.5 days to go for D2 shows.

F2 Previews

AMC - 33948/309285 $514609 1530 shows.

 

Not bad from % filled up. But again on par with CIN instead of CIN at 60% of AMC as usual.

 

Only way I could run it as one at a time slowly. So it takes for ever. If this persists I cannot run daily for sure.

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23 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Frozen 2 update

 

Cin Prev - 33979/380967 2375 shows +2035 (since yesterday night)
Cin OD - 54646/733937 $583472  4330 shows +7510 (+48 hours)
CIN D2 - 67404/732956 $646557 4350 shows +10922 (+48 hours)
CiN D3 - 35877/729705 $331224 4305 shows 1015PM 11/10 +6253 (+48 hours)

 

Its averaging around 14K per day over past 2 days. Outstanding numbers at CIN. AMC is just not working for this movie. I will provide update for NYC theaters tomorrow. But anectdotal check shows things are moving slowly. I find it hard to understand this disparity. Not just AMC even Regal seems week in NYC. 7PM RPX showing at Regal Essex is at 7/144(7PM). It has no shows at Regal E-Walk which is surprising.

 

Anyway at CIN we are looking at hitting 200K tickets for OW by tomorrow. That is great.

 

 

F2 CIN update (T-10)

CIN Prev - 36057/384470  2408 shows +2078
CIN OD - overall 4327 shows 59081/733342 post 6PM 1605 shows 30460/275364 +4435
CIN D2 - overall 4346 shows 72795/732246  post 6PM 1608 shows 9233/274849  +5391
CIN D3 - overall 4304 shows 38779/729394 post 6PM 1569 shows 2969/269572 +2902

Overall +14808

 

It has been amazingly consistent at Cinemark. Slightly Ahead on Previews and slightly behind on D2 compared to AMC(but that is mostly bcos of fan screening having much stronger %).

 

I am slowly running OD and D3 of AMC and hopefully no errors and I have numbers by morning time.

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The Rise of Skywalker Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-38 days and counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

2

205

12345

24156

11811

48.89%

 

Total Showings Added Today

1

Total Seats Added Today

156

Total Seats Sold Today

46

 

T-38 Adjusted Comp #1 (EXTREMELY LOL - DON'T USE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

 

   %

 

Sold T-38

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

CM

427.34

 

9

2641

 

0/81

7973/10614

24.88%

 

88.46m

TROS (adj)

n/a

 

46

11286

 

2/205

11608/22894

49.30%

 

n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Captain Marvel.

 

T-38 Adjusted Comp #2 (VERY LOL - DON'T USE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

 

   %

 

Sold T-38

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

IW

178.19

 

195

5662

 

0/106

4838/10500

53.92%

 

69.49m

TROS (adj)

n/a

 

38

10089

 

2/205

8682/18771

53.75%

 

n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Infinity War.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  TROS had 60 days of pre-sales while Infinity War had 42 days of pre-sales.

 

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Comps so far off of Final Totals of:

 

   %

 

Final Sold

 

TROS Sold

 

Comp

IW

66.55

 

15159

 

10089

 

25.96m

DP2

124.05

 

8133

 

10089

 

23.07m

Solo

174.28

 

5789

 

10089

 

24.57m

JW:FK

161.99

 

6228

 

10089

 

24.79m

AM&tW

219.09

 

4605

 

10089

 

25.20m

Venom

233.03

 

4493

 

10482

 

23.33m

CM

106.95

 

10553

 

11286

 

22.14m

EG

42.34

 

26655

 

11286

 

25.40m

TLK

102.81

 

10977

 

11286

 

23.65m

It 2

208.71

 

5659

 

11811

 

21.91m

AVG

 

 

 

 

 

 

24.00m

NOTE: FINAL SOLD is the amount of tickets sold at stop of tracking for the given movie and TROS SOLD is the amount of tickets sold so far at the same theaters I had tracking info for the movie in question.

 

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Showing added tonight is an 11pm one, so I don't expect many sales at all for a while there.  Infinity War was still in its ramp up stage (being on Day 4 of sales), hence the large discrepancy between it and TROS. 

 

On the other hand, there's the comp with Captain Marvel.  That was in its long tail stage, and even accounting for more than double the showings, TROS is stubbornly refusing to completely enter that area.  There was that Mando promotion at halftime on MNF, so maybe that played a part.  Dunno.  Guess Sacramentans just love us some SW or sumthin'.   Still, I expect TROS to dip under 20 tickets sold for any given day any day now.  But that it's stubbornly refusing to do that for so long is a good sign for it.  Locally at least. 

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Frozen 2 Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-10 days and counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

118

14758

16562

1804

10.89%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

89

 

T-10 Adjusted Comp (Still a bit LOL at this stage due to one-week difference in sale length)

 

   %

 

Sold T-10

Total Sold

 

Sellouts / Shows

Seats Left / Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

Aladdin

184.97

 

41

945

 

0/68

9052/9997

9.45%

 

12.95m

TS4

97.98

 

70

1784

 

0/90

10525/12309

14.49%

 

11.76m

TLK

56.46

 

219

3096

 

0/191

17577/20673

14.98%

 

12.99m

Frozen 2 (adj)

n/a

 

89

1748

 

0/118

12486/14234

12.28%

 

n/a

PRE-SALES NOTE: Aladdin and The Lion King both had 25 days of pre-sales and Toy Story 4 had 24 days of pre-sales.  In comparison Frozen 2 had 18 days of pre-sales. 

ADJUSTMENT NOTE:  Frozen 2 (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for all of the movies in that stat block.

 

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Frozen 2 keeps on truckin' along.  Very very very tiny bit surprised the pace hasn't picked up a bit more to make up for the lost week of pre-sales, but I guess much like Joker it'll just have a larger close in the last few days of pre-sales.  

 

Regardless, over TS4 is a damn near certainty at this point IMO, if Sacramento is any indication. Over 14m a pretty damn good bet as well.  Beyond that, I'm not as certain.  Ask me again in a few days. ;)

 

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46 minutes ago, FlashMaster659 said:

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Inland Empire Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-38 Days

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats Sold

Total Seats

Seats Left

Perct Sold

TOTALS

2

256

12474

53600

41126

23.27%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 72

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THE POWAH OF SW PROMOTION ON MNF IS IMMEASURABLE!

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9 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

F2 Previews

AMC - 33948/309285 $514609 1530 shows.

 

Not bad from % filled up. But again on par with CIN instead of CIN at 60% of AMC as usual.

 

Only way I could run it as one at a time slowly. So it takes for ever. If this persists I cannot run daily for sure.

AMC F2 OD - overall 3497 shows 51159/739522  post 6PM 1683 shows 30838/356612

 

This is good 15% below CIN. Good news is its well above Previews. I would hopefully have Day 3 numbers today as well. Then we can look at overall across 2 chains.

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Just curious-why aren't people using Finding Dory as a comparison for Frozen 2?

 

FD is a second parter of a beloved animated film.

 

It made $9.2 million in previews, a $54 million OD, and $135 million OW.

 

For a $12 million preview number that equates to $70 million OD and $176 million OW.

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Just now, jedijake said:

Just curious-why aren't people using Finding Dory as a comparison for Frozen 2?

 

FD is a second parter of a beloved animated film.

 

It made $9.2 million in previews, a $54 million OD, and $135 million OW.

 

For a $12 million preview number that equates to $70 million OD and $176 million OW.

It's three years old and it came out in the summer.

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33 minutes ago, jedijake said:

Just curious-why aren't people using Finding Dory as a comparison for Frozen 2?

 

FD is a second parter of a beloved animated film.

 

It made $9.2 million in previews, a $54 million OD, and $135 million OW.

 

For a $12 million preview number that equates to $70 million OD and $176 million OW.

I dont think we have any PS data to compare with Dory. Plus 3 years is EONs when it comes to PS. So I think TS4/TLK is the best movies to compare. But being a fall release its Previews to OW multi will be higher. That is given looking at PS data we have.

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9 hours ago, FlashMaster659 said:

Frozen II Inland Empire Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-10 Days

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats Sold

Total Seats

Seats Left

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

119

1867

30338

28471

6.15%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 114

You were just tracking AMC Ontario mills during TLK days right. That was around 1000 tickets sold by T-10 right. Frozen is at 368/1795 based on my run yesterday evening. AMC data is looking very skewed 🙂

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