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1 hour ago, StarWarsMemer said:

I highly doubt it'll have a $65M Saturday. That's like a $170M+ OW


If @Menor’s numbers for Saturday hold true, it’s running a bit over TLK’s Saturday which was $61m.

 

$65m might not happen but it won’t be that far fetched. 

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Hello, I come from China. I always read your analysis on bot  and admire your talent.

 

F2 is currently doing well in China, comparing TLK and Despicable Me 3

 

With less than 48 hours to go before F2 opens in China, sales on its first Friday have already hit 10M (in renminbi, of course). At the same time, the number of TLK is 8M, and the number of DM3 is 9.3m, and the growth of F2 in the last three days exceeds TLK, it seems that she may get the score of 100M dollars in China

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44 minutes ago, lockmom said:

I have some doubts, from the data, it seems that the recent sales of F2 are not as good as the first few days. Can she still achieve 130M as predicted by BOXOFFICE PRO?

More than likely exceed. The sales data is backing up a huge weekend. Things just play very differently in the US during this time of year than summer such as with TLK and TS4

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At the risk of flogging the dead horse, extrapolating just on CIN is dangerous. Based on tracking dailies for movies in release, AMC seem more inline with overall BO. For example Ford yesterday dropped 71% at AMC and 64% at CIN and what do you think was the monday drop. This is something I have observed over past month. That is expected considering AMC is way bigger than CIN and dominates large cities where ticket prices are way higher.

 

F2 is heavily indexed at CIN and AMC/CIN ratio seem out of whack. so its not going to do as well as what CIN PS is saying relative to TLK.

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32 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

At the risk of flogging the dead horse, extrapolating just on CIN is dangerous. Based on tracking dailies for movies in release, AMC seem more inline with overall BO. For example Ford yesterday dropped 71% at AMC and 64% at CIN and what do you think was the monday drop. This is something I have observed over past month. That is expected considering AMC is way bigger than CIN and dominates large cities where ticket prices are way higher.

 

F2 is heavily indexed at CIN and AMC/CIN ratio seem out of whack. so its not going to do as well as what CIN PS is saying relative to TLK.

Well of course not. If we go by Cin then it's going for 15 million previews which of course is not the case

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Had 1st Frozen opened on a Friday it would have surely done 5x multiplier as FSS wouldn't have come in above 80 opposed to 67.3 current number. The final dom would have been the same for such a phenomenon. If the drop in multiplier is similar to say GOTG2's 2.66x from GOTG1's 3.53x then Frozen2 gets 3.75-3.80x multiplier using fair-value 5x for Frozen1.

 

Even using a lower 3.5x it needs 143 ow to hit 500 dom, and a low-130s ow using 3.75-3.8x.

 

Beating TS4's 434 on 2019 dom charts is a lock imo : 125 ow with 3.47x does it; and possibly so is 450 dom.

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NYC Local


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NYC Local Mon   Tues   Wed   Thur   Previews Preview Start
Shazam!         129/2229 (Afternoon) 187/2229 (3:30pm) $5.9m 4:00 PM
Avengers: Endgame 3948/4,736 (12am)     4,853/5493 (9pm)     $60m 6:00 PM
Aladdin     98/1242 (12pm)         $7m 6:00 PM
Godzilla 2         135/1915 (7:45pm) 204/2150 (3:30pm) $6.3m 4:00 PM
X-Men: DP     103/942 (4pm) 209/942 (3:15pm) 272/942 (3:45pm) $5m 6:00 PM
SLOP 2     38/771 (4pm) 43/771 (3:15pm)     $2.3m 6:00 PM
Toy Story 4     165/2049 (4pm) 233/2049 (7:40pm)     $12m 6:00 PM
SM:FFH 142/922               $2.8m Midnights Only
The Lion King 236/3228 (6:30pm) 294/3228 (6:20pm) 444/3228 (4:30pm) 557/3228 (4:30pm) $23m 6:00 PM
OUATIH     117/1179 (2:15pm) 159/1179 (4pm) 335/1179 (4:20pm) $5.8m 4:00 PM
Hobbs & Shaw 60/1543 (5:20pm)     181/1543 (4pm)     $5.8m 7:00 PM
IT Part 2 147/2764 (9am)     239/2764 (7:10pm)     $10.5m 5:00 PM
Hustlers     45/512 (4:30pm)   (4:30pm)   (4:30pm) $2.5m 6:00 PM
Downton Abbey (eps)     37/301 (4:30pm)   (4:30pm)   (4:30pm) $2.2m 7:00 PM
Ad Astra     26/602 (4:30pm) 26/602 (4:30pm) 41/602 (4:30pm) $1.5m 6:00 PM
Downton Abbey     31/512 (4:30pm) 39/512 (4:30pm) 52/1015 (4:30pm) $2.1m 7:00 PM
Rambo     29/302 (4:30pm) 53/1242 (4:30pm) 58/1242 (4:30pm) $1.3m 6:00 PM
Abominable     30/255 (4:30pm)   (4:30pm) 73/1969 (4:30pm) $.65m 6:00 PM
Joker (-1 week) 104/2766 (9am) 172/2766 (4:30pm)     217/3536 (4pm)   4:00 PM
Joker 328/3536 (4:20pm) 399/3536 (4pm) 542/3536 (4pm) 760/3741 (3:45pm) $13.3m 4:00 PM
Gemini Man     38/1004 (4pm) 38/1004 (4pm) 78/1004 [6:30pm] $1.55m 7:00 PM
Adams Family   (4pm) 53/1373 (4pm) 49/1373 (4pm)     $1.25m 4:00 PM
Maleficent 2 39/1154 (4pm) 42/1154 (4pm) 33/834 (4pm) 96/1425 [6pm] $2.3m 7:00 PM
Zombieland 2 51/1114 (4pm) 53/1114 (4pm) 67/1177 (4pm) 95/1478 [6pm] $2.85m 7:00 PM
Black & Blue     19/410 (4pm)     20/410 (4pm) $.68m 7:00 PM
Countdown     15/511 (4pm)     19/411 (4pm) $.52m 7:00 PM
Terminator: DF 71/1242 (4pm) 71/1242 (4pm) 76/1242 (5:30pm) 113/1242 (4pm) $2.35m 7:00 PM
Harriet 25/512 (4pm) 25/512 (4pm) 27/512 (5:30pm) 29/512 (4pm) $.6m 7:00 PM
Midway 20/512 (4pm) 23/512 (4pm) 22/512 (4:30pm) 27/512 (5pm) $.925m 7:00 PM
Dr Sleep 23/510 (4pm) 28/510 (4pm) 28/510 (4:30pm) 53/512 (5pm) $1.5m 6:00 PM
Last Christmas 12/496 (4pm) 12/496 (4pm) 12/496 (4:30pm) 16/496 (5pm) $.575m 7:00 PM
Playing With Fire 15/654 (4pm) 15/654 (4pm) 15/654 (4:30pm) 18/654 (4pm)   4:00 PM
Ford v Ferrari 50/1152 (4pm) 48/1152 (4pm) 53/1152 (4pm) 65/1152 (5:30pm) $2.1m 6:00 PM
Charlies Angels 18/903 (4pm) 18/903 (4pm) 18/903 (4pm) 20/903 (4pm) $.9m 4:00 PM
Frozen 122/1824 (4pm) 169/ 2724 (4pm)   (5:30pm)   (4pm)   6:00 PM
Beautiful Day 30/492 (4pm) 30/492 (4pm)   (5:30pm)   (4pm)   6:00 PM
21 Bridges 26/768 (4pm) 25/768 (4pm)   (5:30pm)   (4pm)   7:00 PM
Knives Out (F&S eps) 42/602 (4pm) 53/602 (4pm)   (5:30pm)   (4pm)   7:00 PM

 

 

 

NYC Local Mon   Tues  
Frozen 122/1824 (4pm) 169/ 2724 (4pm)
Beautiful Day 30/492 (4pm) 30/492 (4pm)
21 Bridges 26/768 (4pm) 25/768 (4pm)
Knives Out (F&S eps) 42/602 (4pm) 53/602 (4pm)

 

Frozen took a big jump in showings and seats.

 

Preview Comps

Toy Story 4:  $12.29m

TLK:  $13.32m

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On 11/18/2019 at 3:14 PM, Inceptionzq said:

The Rise of Skywalker Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total 1596 3153

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 1631 3926

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD TODAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS  SHOWINGS
7959 36 22870 34.80% 9 182

The Rise of Skywalker Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total 1611 3153

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 1631 3926

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD TODAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS  SHOWINGS
8016 57 22870 35.05% 9 182
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On 11/18/2019 at 3:41 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Frozen 2 Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total 342 1404

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 402 1695

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD TODAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS  SHOWINGS
1881 175 11878 15.84% 9 69

 

Lion King comp: 11.54M

Frozen 2 Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total 352 1404

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 432 2309

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD TODAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS  SHOWINGS
2068 187 12492 16.55% 9 78

 

Showings added: 9

Seats added: 614

 

Lion King comp: 10.89M

 

Barely an increase in tickets sold from yesterday. Presumably because there's not enough good seats from 6-7:30ish to meet demand. Highlands Ranch just added a bunch of showings which should help out a lot tomorrow. And other theaters should be adding more sometime today or tomorrow. So, we'll see if that gives a big boost to tickets sold.

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