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21 minutes ago, Boxofficerules said:

Now that Jumanji is set to bomb can we discuss Black Christmas bring number 1? $30 million plus? Over or under?

Can always rely on you to stan for these no1curr lame-looking horror movies.

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54 minutes ago, Boxofficerules said:

Now that Jumanji is set to bomb can we discuss Black Christmas bring number 1? $30 million plus? Over or under?

 

BC has currently sold 4 tickets at my theater for the entire weekend.

 

It's going to open closer to $3 million than $30 million.

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31 minutes ago, VenomXXR said:

 

BC has currently sold 4 tickets at my theater for the entire weekend.

 

It's going to open closer to $3 million than $30 million.

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On 12/7/2019 at 12:45 PM, Inceptionzq said:

The Rise of Skywalker Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total 1776 3153

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 1810 3926

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD TODAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS  SHOWINGS
9410 78 22870 41.15% 9 182

 

Final Frozen 2 count comp: 22.84M

Final Maleficent count comp: 26.69M

Final IT 2 count comp: 25.45M

Final Hobbs count comp: 26.60M

Adjusted final OUATiH count comp: 27.25M

Final Lion King count comp: 28.53M

 

Average: 26.23M

The Rise of Skywalker Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total 1797 3153

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 1816 3926

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD TODAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS  SHOWINGS
9551 141 22870 41.76% 9 182

 

Final Frozen 2 count comp: 23.18M

Final Maleficent count comp: 27.09M

Final IT 2 count comp: 25.83M

Final Hobbs count comp: 27M

Adjusted final OUATiH count comp: 27.64M

Final Lion King count comp: 28.95M

 

Average: 26.62M

 

This is a great jump, but keep in mind that I had to count about 3 hours earlier than usual yesterday. So this is 27 hours vs yesterday's 21.

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2 hours ago, VenomXXR said:

 

BC has currently sold 4 tickets at my theater for the entire weekend.

 

It's going to open closer to $3 million than $30 million.

Box office Pro have predicted about a $15 million opening, that’s like 5 times $3 million

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11 minutes ago, Boxofficerules said:

Box office Pro have predicted about a $15 million opening, that’s like 5 times $3 million

Closer to $3m than $30m, like I said. 

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On 12/7/2019 at 1:06 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Jumanji: The Next Level Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total 74 1686

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 80 1610

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD TODAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS  SHOWINGS
273 46 11405 2.39% 9 58

 

Frozen 2 comp: 1.50M

Terminator comp: 4.31M

Adjusted Maleficent comp: 2.84M

Adjusted Zombieland 2 comp: 2.77M

Adjusted Gemini Man comp: 2.43M

Hobbs comp: 4.01M

Lion King comp: 2.05M

Jumanji: The Next Level Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total 89 1686

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 94 1610

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD TODAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS  SHOWINGS
313 40 11405 2.74% 9 58

 

Frozen 2 comp: 1.56M

Terminator comp: 3.87M

Adjusted Maleficent comp: 2.86M

Adjusted Zombieland 2 comp: 2.73M

Adjusted Gemini Man comp: 2.42M

Hobbs comp: 4M

Lion King comp: 2.16M

 

Same thing as TRoS, this is 27 hours vs yesterday's 21 hours. Probably not a good thing that most of the comps are pretty flat from yesterday. I would've liked to have seen some more movement upwards

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Jumanji: The Next Level
Various theater chains (Michigan)
Premiere Night Seat Report: T-4 days and counting
           
  Last Day 2 Days Ago 3 Days Ago 4 Days Ago 5 Days Ago
Showings Added 0 0 0 0 19
Seats Added 0 0 0 0 5,717
Seats Sold 59 33 17 42 181
           
12/8/2019 Showings Seats Left Total Seats Seats Sold Pct. Sold
Total 98 20,394 20,922 528 2.52%
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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker
Various theater chains (Michigan)
Premiere Night Seat Report: T-11 days and counting
           
  Last Day 2 Days Ago 3 Days Ago 4 Days Ago 5 Days Ago
Showings Added 0 0 2 0 0
Seats Added 22 9 175 8 4
Seats Sold 249 163 229 253 220
           
12/8/2019 Showings Seats Left Total Seats Seats Sold Pct. Sold
Total 239 26,634 42,133 15,499 36.79%
           
% of Seats Sold Sellouts 90%+ 80%+ 70%+ 60%+
# of Showings 10 26 50 73 91
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On 12/7/2019 at 4:54 PM, keysersoze123 said:

Jumanji 2 Previews (T-5)

MTC1 Prev - overall 1568 shows 11419/334260 197108.91 +1487
MTC2 Prev - overall 2675 shows 6370/436429 79809.00  +1196

 

Good increase at least at MTC2. Overall we are in wait mode until wednesday. At this point at least at MTC1 its ahead of Mal 2. I am thinking 3m previews can happen. Let us see how things go.

 

Jumanji 2 Previews (T-4)

MTC1 Prev - overall 1568 shows 14105/334199 241387.45 +2686
MTC2 Prev - overall 2673 shows 7650/436175 95454.00 +1280

 

Definitely accelerating at MTC1 after a slow day yesterday. let us hope for the pace to increase even more starting tomorrow.

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I used to wonder, why DC films are more previews loaded than MCU. I think the reason is headstart DC had in films breakout with Batman films in late 1989. The then kids were in their late 20s or early 30s in 2008, explain the preview heavy TDK as the 20-30s are the audience for Thursday nights.

 

MCU is there now, after 11 years inception, we are at stage that kids of 10-15 in 2008 are in mid 20s now.

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Jumanji: The Next Level Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-4 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 68 201 15,850 1.27%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 19

 

Comp

1.031x of Maleficent 5 days before release (2.37M)

0.135x of Frozen II (1.15M)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.354x of Hobbs & Shaw (2.05M)

 

Definitely not impressed with today. We'll see if the next couple days really improve these prospects.

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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-11 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 2 168 10,649 31,446 33.86%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 128

 

Comp

5.599x of Once Upon’s final count (32.47M)

3.074x of It: Chapter Two (32.28M)

2.169x of Joker (28.84M)

15.278x of Maleficent (35.14M)

12.226x of Terminator (28.73M)

3.168x of Frozen II (26.93M)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.939x of Lion King (21.61M)

4.458x of Hobbs & Shaw (25.86M)

 

I'll admit I am a touch disappointed at that number, but it's not a dealbreaker or anything.

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On 12/7/2019 at 8:46 PM, keysersoze123 said:

SW9 Previews (T-12)

MTC1 Prev - overall 5152 shows 329083/859475 4906468.95 +3715
MTC2 Prev - overall 3089 shows 218172/450996 2764970.00  +3012

 

Good day. Stronger than yesterday. I am hoping for at least 5K starting monday next.

SW9 (T-11)

MTC1 Prev - overall 5155 shows 334059/859712 4977678.19  +4976
MTC2 Prev - overall 3093 shows 221490/451563 2804730.00 +3318
MTC1 OD - overall 5368 shows 249370/1094552 3873060.63 +16338 ( 3 days)
MTC2 OD - overall 4369 shows 187686/715555 2100107.00 +12102 ( 3 days)

 

Good acceleration from yesterday. Should definitely go over 5K tomorrow at MTC1. Hopefully closer to 6K. I ideally wanted to run entire weekend but the scrapper has been really slow. So just updated OD as well. Excellent increase over past 3 days. As expected pace is stronger than preview sales over past 3 days.

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The Rise of Skywalker Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-11 days and counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

4*

210

9996

24504

14508

59.21%

* NOTE:  If a showing only has wheelchair and/or wheelchair companion seats left, it is counted as a sellout

 

Total Sellouts Added Today

1

Total Seats Sold Today

198

 

T-11 Adjusted Comp #1 (EXTREMELY LOL FOR CM - DON'T USE THERE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

 

   %

 

Sold T-11

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

CM

339.17

 

82

4085

 

2/87

6845/10930

37.37%

 

70.21m

EG

74.49

 

109

18601

 

11/243

5975/24576

75.69%

 

44.69m

TROS (adj)

n/a

 

189

13855

 

4/210

9401/23256

59.58%

 

n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Captain Marvel and Endgame

THEATER NOTE: If a theater in the region was not open for the above movies but is for TROS it WILL be counted as part of this adjustment.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  TROS had 60 days of pre-sales while Endgame had 24 days of pre-sales.

 

T-11 Adjusted Comp #2 (VERY LOL - DON'T USE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

 

   %

 

Sold T-11

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

IW

155.58

 

57

7873

 

3/118

3422/11295

69.70%

 

60.68m

Solo

359.84

 

48

3404

 

1/87

5944/9348

36.41%

 

50.74m

TROS (adj)

n/a

 

148

12249

 

4/210

6890/19139

64.00%

 

n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Infinity War and Solo.

THEATER NOTE: If a theater in the region was not open for the above movies but is for TROS it WILL be counted as part of this adjustment.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  TROS had 60 days of pre-sales while Infinity War had 42 days of pre-sales and Solo 21 days of pre-sales.

 

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Comps so far off of Final Totals (spoilered for space)

Spoiler

of:

 

   %

 

Final Sold

 

TROS Sold

 

Comp

DP2

150.61

 

8133

 

12249

 

28.01m

Solo

211.59

 

5789

 

12249

 

29.83m

JW:FK

196.68

 

6228

 

12249

 

30.09m

AM&tW

265.99

 

4605

 

12249

 

30.22m

Venom

286.82

 

4493

 

12887

 

28.68m

CM

131.29

 

10553

 

13855

 

27.18m

EG

51.98

 

26655

 

13855

 

31.19m

TLK

126.22

 

10977

 

13855

 

29.03m

It 2

256.37

 

5659

 

14508

 

26.92m

AVG

 

 

 

 

 

 

29.06m

NOTE: FINAL SOLD is the amount of tickets sold at stop of tracking for the given movie and TROS SOLD is the amount of tickets sold so far at the same theaters I had tracking info for the movie in question.

 

===

 

Simply a fantastic day in Sacto today, driven in large parts by spikes at a couple of the Regals and showings after 10pm filling up across the board.  Best day in town since the third day of pre-sales (TROS today sold two more tickets than it did on the fourth day of pre-sales).

 

Sacto may be overperforming, but it's still chugging along here, with little end in sight.

 

NB:  Don't read too much into that EG day-to-day comp.  There was over 75% of all tickets sold at that time for EG AND a lot of those were at crappy theaters and/or crappy showtimes, so only so much blood could be squeezed from that stone.  Still, the comp is the comp and it's still good for TROS.  Just... keep it in perspective. :) 

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24 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Loving the direction of EG comps. It should go up and up.

Well, inch up and up.  When literally thousands of tickets have been sold for both films, a difference of 50 to 70 tickets only does so much.

 

Still better up than down, I agree. :) 

 

(sorry, my natural in-built caution/conservatism at play here. ;))

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1 minute ago, Porthos said:

Well, inch up and up.  When literally thousands of tickets have been sold for both films, a difference of 50 to 70 tickets only does so much.

 

Still better up than down, I agree. :) 

 

(sorry, my natural in-built caution/conservatism at play here. ;))

we are in the final turn. That pace will also go up big time. There is more room to grow.

 

Anyway Its just relative number. I am only looking at 50m previews. So its not about beating Endgame but getting closer.

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3 hours ago, Jedi Jat said:

I used to wonder, why DC films are more previews loaded than MCU. I think the reason is headstart DC had in films breakout with Batman films in late 1989. The then kids were in their late 20s or early 30s in 2008, explain the preview heavy TDK as the 20-30s are the audience for Thursday nights.

 

MCU is there now, after 11 years inception, we are at stage that kids of 10-15 in 2008 are in mid 20s now.

Certainly.

 

The reason DC was seen as more popular than Marvel is because of the big budget media presence that it had since the 70s and 80s whereas Marvel was struggling to get things made to the point where they sold it for pennies on the dollar, basically begging studios to make it for them. Just like Feige said that Disney buying them was the best thing that happened to them, Warner buying DC was the best thing that happened to them. 

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