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8 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Dolittle Previews

 

MTC1 - overall 1039 shows 14083/164934 196302.33 
MTC2 - overall 1147 shows 12263/149338 133718.00 

 

Should squeeze past 1m but not a lot higher than that. Let us see how OD goes. I will stick to high teens for 4 day for now. 

Which for a 175 Million Plus film is catastrophic, with it's 350 Millon break even point.

Some stories have the budget swelling to 190 because of the extensive reshoots.

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45 minutes ago, dudalb said:

Looks like a very good opening for Bad Boys, but would not be surprised if Dolittle bombing is the big entertainment story this weekend.   Everybody loves to watch a trainwreck….

You are loving this since last week lol

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1 hour ago, Eric Dolittle said:

Bad Boys for Life Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 88 4,328 16,163 26.78%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 6

Total Seats Added Today: 396

Total Seats Sold Today: 2,049

 

Comp

2.275x of Once Upon (13.2M)

1.249x of It: Chapter Two (13.12M)

0.881x of Joker (11.72M)

5.841x of Gemini Man (9.34M)

7.436x of 21 Bridges (5.2M)

0.268x of Star Wars 9 (10.73M)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.505x of The Lion King (11.61M)

2.395x of Hobbs & Shaw (13.89M)

 

I'll admit, I'd die of laughter if these numbers actually come into fruition.

Looks like 21B had a really strong Philly performance, I think that will prove a strong comp in terms of BB’s national figure. Would still bode an excellent weekend of course.

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I saw Bad Boys at 4 and maybe 10ish people were there but the 7 show was selling very well 

 

The movie isn’t very good but very generic and similar to Hobbs and Shaw. 

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So far tonight Bad Boys is 600% of Dolittle here

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4 hours ago, Arendelle Legion said:

Looks like 21B had a really strong Philly performance, I think that will prove a strong comp in terms of BB’s national figure. Would still bode an excellent weekend of course.

I dont think they are comparable. 21B barely sold and  comparable movies should have similar kind of PS. its like saying cats sold 5 tickets and Endgame 5000 and so endgame will have 1000x cats. Based on MTC data 21B sold just under 26K tickets between 2 chains. 

 

Anyway OD PS data.

 

Dolittle

MTC1  OD - overall 2096 shows 17390/360371 234367.72 
MTC2  OD  - overall 2325 shows 21216/339710 201783.00 

 

Good news is its not as bad as Previews PS. But I am not feeling > 4x previews and so looking at 4m friday or less depending on how the walkups are. 

 

Bad Boys

MTC1  OD - overall 2713 shows 77882/552572 1144432.49 
MTC2  OD - overall 2525 shows 52614/403856 588811.00

 

Based on usual ratios for OD its already 7m OD PS. I am thinking 20m OD including previews can happen. 

 

Previews final

Bad Boys

MTC1 -  overall 1672 shows 115040/314563 1632380.98

MTC2 - overall 1748 shows 86910/261034 1029545.00

 

~6.5m previews. Phenomenal walkins for this.

 

Dolittle

MTC1 - overall 1039 shows 17388/164934 240608.47

MTC2 - overall 1147 shows 16011/149357 175777.00

 

~1.1m previews. Nothing much to say beyond that but weird part is after 1st week of PS its was ahead of Bad boys(both the movies had sold almost nothing at that point) !!!

 

 

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19 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

I dont think they are comparable. 21B barely sold and  comparable movies should have similar kind of PS. its like saying cats sold 5 tickets and Endgame 5000 and so endgame will have 1000x cats. Based on MTC data 21B sold just under 26K tickets between 2 chains. 

 

Anyway OD PS data.

 

Dolittle

MTC1  OD - overall 2096 shows 17390/360371 234367.72 
MTC2  OD  - overall 2325 shows 21216/339710 201783.00 

 

Good news is its not as bad as Previews PS. But I am not feeling > 4x previews and so looking at 4m friday or less depending on how the walkups are. 

 

Bad Boys

MTC1  OD - overall 2713 shows 77882/552572 1144432.49 
MTC2  OD - overall 2525 shows 52614/403856 588811.00

 

Based on usual ratios for OD its already 7m OD PS. I am thinking 20m OD including previews can happen. 

 

Previews final

Bad Boys

MTC1 -  overall 1672 shows 115040/314563 1632380.98

MTC2 - overall 1748 shows 86910/261034 1029545.00

 

~6.5m previews. Phenomenal walkins for this.

 

Dolittle

MTC1 - overall 1039 shows 17388/164934 240608.47

MTC2 - overall 1147 shows 16011/149357 175777.00

 

~1.1m previews. Nothing much to say beyond that but weird part is after 1st week of PS its was ahead of Bad boys(both the movies had sold almost nothing at that point) !!!

 

 

>50m 3-day should happen for Bad Boys. Phenomenal performance.

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I'm pretty sure that Birds of Prey tickets won't start selling as late as the 29th. Think that was placeholder date on the cinemark website (its also not there anymore). Tickets have already started selling in the UK and Australia this weekend.

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9 hours ago, dudalb said:

Which for a 175 Million Plus film is catastrophic, with it's 350 Millon break even point.

I think the break even point will be much higher than that. (Including P&A will be even higher too).


 

That’s fantastic for Bad Boys 3. 

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are the crowd reports for Bad Boys even close to what the actual numbers say?  I rewatched some of the first two and I don't see any hype for this compared to other movies that came out the last two years

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On 1/16/2020 at 6:17 PM, VanillaSkies said:

I can see seat available for all my local Cineplex theatres here in Ottawa 

Okay so might ve more toronto thing thanks for feedback

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So as i get back into tracking, ill just do same as usual, if my reg seat isnt showing seat count it will be noted as seat count N/A

 

Usually where i am the regular seats only have significant numbers when premiere screens are getting full so it shouldnt affect numbers TOO much ( i hope)

 

Thanks to all for feedback and comments on the issue much appreciated!

 

 

 

 

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I really miss the pulse tracker :( 

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so apparently box office admissions slid to 1.24 billion in 2019 lowest since 2005.

 

If/ b.o admissions slide below 1 billion a year, is that when studios and or theatre chains start panicking? Just odd seeing such huge sales numbers and seeing that less people are spending more money to go to theatres. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Tinalera said:

so apparently box office admissions slid to 1.24 billion in 2019 lowest since 2005.

 

If/ b.o admissions slide below 1 billion a year, is that when studios and or theatre chains start panicking? Just odd seeing such huge sales numbers and seeing that less people are spending more money to go to theatres. 

 

Depends. If AMC continues to scale it could eventually be valuable to have a a family alist pass

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21 minutes ago, Tinalera said:

so apparently box office admissions slid to 1.24 billion in 2019 lowest since 2005.

 

If/ b.o admissions slide below 1 billion a year, is that when studios and or theatre chains start panicking? Just odd seeing such huge sales numbers and seeing that less people are spending more money to go to theatres. 

 

Admission prices keep going up which make it seem like admissions are also on the rise but that's not the case. A lot of people just wait for movies to pop up online unless they're a "must see" movie so unless chains start cutting back on prices or give more affordable monthly plans, admissions will probably stagnate/keep falling. 

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On 1/18/2020 at 1:30 PM, Nova said:

I really miss the pulse tracker :( 

Keyser is way better than Pulse though.

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2 minutes ago, Menor said:

Keyser is way better than Pulse though.

I love Keyser and all the data they provide! I love this thread in general and all the users who contribute to it. 

 

Pulse was just personally helpful. Although not perfect. If there was a movie that I wanted to track, especially the smaller ones, I could use its data. Like I wanted to see how The Gentleman was doing and a movie like that was easier to track using pulse tracker versus locally where my theater doesn't put showtimes up until the Tuesday/Wednesday before release for a movie like it. 

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