The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[keysersoze123]

^^^^

 

I dont see blocked seats even last weekend. Which area we still have blocked seats? I thought there are no capacity restrictions at this point. I used to see blocked seats(at cinemark it was an attribute physicalDistanceBuffer set to true to blocked seats). 

[Tinalera]

47 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

Oh, does you keyword search mark a difference between "unavailable" and "reserved"?  I thought Fandango stopped supplying that information ages ago.

 

*rereads your reply to me from a couple of days ago*

 

Oh, sweet!  I completely glossed over that distinction.  Think I read your post when I wasn't fully awake and I just didn't catch that.  

 

Oh, wow, that's gonna be a godsend for me when it come to newly opened showings/setting up charts.

 

You have no idea how helpful that is gonna be. 👍

 

(or, rather, I suspect you do know how helpful it will be )

Theatres doing it in different ways, as I posted earlier, Cineplex is doing reducing its total available seat count not only by seats bought ( say 4 seats) but will also remove another 2 seats from total available, in order to meet the 50 percent rule. So Im now reducing TOTAL seat counts each time Im doing an update, so my "total seat capacity" is shrinking each time I do an update lol. Its nutty

 

[Inceptionzq]

On 7/20/2021 at 3:23 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Jungle Cruise Denver Thursday Showings

AMC Westminster 24

Total

28

687

4.08%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

18

1015

1.77%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
121	7	11008	1.10%	15	50

 

Showings removed: 2

Seats removed: 868

Showings added: 1

Seats added: 210

 

Cruella comp: 1.69M

Jungle Cruise Denver Thursday Showings

AMC Westminster 24

Total

29

687

4.22%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

18

1015

1.77%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
131	10	11053	1.19%	15	51

 

Showings added: 1

Seats added: 45

 

Cruella comp: 1.64M

[Inceptionzq]

On 7/20/2021 at 3:28 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Suicide Squad Denver Thursday Showings

AMC Westminster 24

Total

71

661

10.74%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

36

753

4.78%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
244	6	10582	2.31%	15	48

 

Showings added: 2

Seats added: 847

 

Black Widow comp: 2.15M

F9 comp: 4.27M

AQP2 comp: 6.04M

Suicide Squad Denver Thursday Showings

AMC Westminster 24

Total

80

661

12.10%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

36

753

4.78%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
258	14	10784	2.39%	15	49

 

Showings added: 1

Seats added: 202

 

Black Widow comp: 2.15M

F9 comp: 4.08M

AQP2 comp: 5.89M

[Inceptionzq]

13 hours ago, Porthos said:

However, we've seen time and time again that Sacramento is running hot compared to the rest of DOM.  So far 2021 comps are off about 18 to 21 percent from what pre-2020 comps would suggest. With Ontario back, if I guesstimate that comps are now off by about 15 to 17 percent compared to what they were pre-2020, then I get something like 6.72m to 6.88m.  Which is a lot better than current comping is suggesting.

FWIW, Suicide Squad comps to 6.56M with Hobbs and Shaw after lobbing off 15% as of yesterday in Denver

Edited July 21, 2021 by Inceptionzq

[Menor the Destroyer]

9 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

^^^^

 

I dont see blocked seats even last weekend. Which area we still have blocked seats? I thought there are no capacity restrictions at this point. I used to see blocked seats(at cinemark it was an attribute physicalDistanceBuffer set to true to blocked seats). 

There are a few physical distance buffer seats in scattered theaters (I think they are mostly errors or something). But the bigger issue is these other blocked seats that are labeled identical to sold seats on the homepage (with the difference only showing up on Fandango). 

[Porthos]

12 minutes ago, Inceptionzq said:

FWIW, Suicide Squad comps to 6.56M with Hobbs and Shaw after lobbing off 15% as of yesterday in Denver

 

Right around the same ballpark.  Innnnteresting.

[Porthos]

23 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

^^^^

 

I dont see blocked seats even last weekend. Which area we still have blocked seats? I thought there are no capacity restrictions at this point. I used to see blocked seats(at cinemark it was an attribute physicalDistanceBuffer set to true to blocked seats). 

 

12 minutes ago, Menor said:

There are a few physical distance buffer seats in scattered theaters (I think they are mostly errors or something). But the bigger issue is these other blocked seats that are labeled identical to sold seats on the homepage (with the difference only showing up on Fandango). 

 

Yeah, we're talking about seats that aren't for sale because they are presumably damaged or otherwise unfit to be sat in.

 

Occasionally I will see theaters flip/fix a seat from being unavailable to being available.  Presumably after they fixed/upgraded/replaced the seat in question.

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

Maybe I’m wrong since this is pure speculation but I COULD see WB “salvage” Suicide Squad within next 2 weeks. Maybe like 40 or more? Don’t think it’ll reach 60 like Hobbs/Shaw but I posted in the official thread reviews will be solid and the final marketing blitz will begin soon. I know a superhero movie should have stronger presales but some tracking here has potential 

 

And maybe there’s a bigger desire and pent-up excitement to see a big movie since these next 2 weeks are underwhelming. I had higher expectations for M. Night but both Old/Snake Eyes will most likely finish mid/high teens or low 20s at best. Jungle Cruise will be low 20s. Besides In the Heights, the WB releases have over performed this year (albeit, some may have had indicative sales). Will there truly be no “big” opening again until Shang-Chi at the earliest? I’m doubtful. 

[keysersoze123]

58 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

 

Yeah, we're talking about seats that aren't for sale because they are presumably damaged or otherwise unfit to be sat in.

 

Occasionally I will see theaters flip/fix a seat from being unavailable to being available.  Presumably after they fixed/upgraded/replaced the seat in question.

Interesting. If you know about a specific show with those seats, I would be able to look if its tagged as anything. They are not blocked for Social Distancing reasons for sure. 

[Menor the Destroyer]

8 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Interesting. If you know about a specific show with those seats, I would be able to look if its tagged as anything. They are not blocked for Social Distancing reasons for sure. 

https://www.cinemark.com/TicketSeatMap/?TheaterId=355&ShowtimeId=151081&CinemarkMovieId=84699&Showtime=2021-08-06T19:00:00

https://www.cinemark.com/TicketSeatMap/?TheaterId=355&ShowtimeId=151082&CinemarkMovieId=84699&Showtime=2021-08-06T22:15:00.

These are two that I found. 

[Porthos]

22 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Interesting. If you know about a specific show with those seats, I would be able to look if its tagged as anything. They are not blocked for Social Distancing reasons for sure. 

 

14 minutes ago, Menor said:

https://www.cinemark.com/TicketSeatMap/?TheaterId=355&ShowtimeId=151081&CinemarkMovieId=84699&Showtime=2021-08-06T19:00:00

https://www.cinemark.com/TicketSeatMap/?TheaterId=355&ShowtimeId=151082&CinemarkMovieId=84699&Showtime=2021-08-06T22:15:00.

These are two that I found. 

 

To add to that, seat B19 in the following map can never be purchased:

 

https://www.cinemark.com/TicketSeatMap/?TheaterId=417&ShowtimeId=413073&CinemarkMovieId=84699&Showtime=2021-08-05T19:20:00

 

That IS a DBOX theater for the record (everything in row F and row G, along with seats E9 and E7).  In that particular showing, only the seats D10, D11 and J6, J7 have been actually purchased.

 

You can see this in action by comparing that 7:20pm showing with this 10:30pm showing on the same night:

 

https://www.cinemark.com/TicketSeatMap/?TheaterId=417&ShowtimeId=413074&CinemarkMovieId=84699&Showtime=2021-08-05T22:30:00

 

Same marked out DBOX seats I mentioned before, along with B19 which is a truly unavailable seat.

 

(I don't see why you'd need them, but the DBOX seat maps for those two showings are here and here). 

Edited July 21, 2021 by Porthos

[TalismanRing]

 Chart under Spoiler Cut

Spoiler

NYC Local	Mon		Tues		Wed		Thur		Previews	Preview Start
Shazam!					129/2229	(Afternoon)	187/2229	(3:30pm)	$5.9m	4:00 PM
Avengers: Endgame	3948/4,736	(12am)			4,853/5493	(9pm)			$60m	6:00 PM
Aladdin			98/1242	(12pm)					$7m	6:00 PM
Godzilla 2					135/1915	(7:45pm)	204/2150	(3:30pm)	$6.3m	4:00 PM
X-Men: DP			103/942	(4pm)	209/942	(3:15pm)	272/942	(3:45pm)	$5m	6:00 PM
SLOP 2			38/771	(4pm)	43/771	(3:15pm)			$2.3m	6:00 PM
Toy Story 4			165/2049	(4pm)	233/2049	(7:40pm)			$12m	6:00 PM
SM:FFH	142/922								$2.8m	Midnights Only
The Lion King	236/3228	(6:30pm)	294/3228	(6:20pm)	444/3228	(4:30pm)	557/3228	(4:30pm)	$23m	6:00 PM
OUATIH			117/1179	(2:15pm)	159/1179	(4pm)	335/1179	(4:20pm)	$5.8m	4:00 PM
Hobbs & Shaw	60/1543	(5:20pm)			181/1543	(4pm)			$5.8m	7:00 PM
IT Part 2	147/2764	(9am)			239/2764	(7:10pm)			$10.5m	5:00 PM
Hustlers			45/512	(4:30pm)		(4:30pm)		(4:30pm)	$2.5m	6:00 PM
Downton Abbey (eps)			37/301	(4:30pm)		(4:30pm)		(4:30pm)	$2.2m	7:00 PM
Ad Astra			26/602	(4:30pm)	26/602	(4:30pm)	41/602	(4:30pm)	$1.5m	6:00 PM
Downton Abbey			31/512	(4:30pm)	39/512	(4:30pm)	52/1015	(4:30pm)	$2.1m	7:00 PM
Rambo			29/302	(4:30pm)	53/1242	(4:30pm)	58/1242	(4:30pm)	$1.3m	6:00 PM
Abominable			30/255	(4:30pm)		(4:30pm)	73/1969	(4:30pm)	$.65m	6:00 PM
Joker (-1 week)	104/2766	(9am)	172/2766	(4:30pm)			217/3536	(4pm)		4:00 PM
Joker	328/3536	(4:20pm)	399/3536	(4pm)	542/3536	(4pm)	760/3741	(3:45pm)	$13.3m	4:00 PM
Gemini Man			38/1004	(4pm)	38/1004	(4pm)	78/1004	[6:30pm]	$1.55m	7:00 PM
Adams Family		(4pm)	53/1373	(4pm)	49/1373	(4pm)			$1.25m	4:00 PM
Maleficent 2	39/1154	(4pm)	42/1154	(4pm)	53/1154	(4pm)	96/1425	[6pm]	$2.3m	7:00 PM
Zombieland 2	51/1114	(4pm)	53/1114	(4pm)	67/1177	(4pm)	95/1478	[6pm]	$2.85m	7:00 PM
Black & Blue			19/410	(4pm)	19/410	(4pm)	20/410	(4pm)	$.68m	7:00 PM
Countdown			15/511	(4pm)			19/411	(4pm)	$.52m	7:00 PM
Terminator: DF	71/1242	(4pm)	71/1242	(4pm)	76/1242	(5:30pm)	113/1242	(4pm)	$2.35m	7:00 PM
Harriet	25/512	(4pm)	25/512	(4pm)	27/512	(5:30pm)	29/512	(4pm)	$.6m	7:00 PM
Midway	20/512	(4pm)	23/512	(4pm)	22/512	(4:30pm)	27/512	(5pm)	$.925m	7:00 PM
Dr Sleep	23/510	(4pm)	28/510	(4pm)	28/510	(4:30pm)	53/512	(5pm)	$1.5m	6:00 PM
Last Christmas	12/496	(4pm)	12/496	(4pm)	12/496	(4:30pm)	16/496	(5pm)	$.575m	7:00 PM
Playing With Fire	15/654	(4pm)	15/654	(4pm)	15/654	(4:30pm)	18/654	(4pm)		4:00 PM
Ford v Ferrari	50/1152	(4pm)	48/1152	(4pm)	53/1152	(4pm)	65/1152	(5:30pm)	$2.1m	6:00 PM
Charlies Angels	18/903	(4pm)	18/903	(4pm)	18/903	(4pm)	20/903	(4pm)	$.9m	4:00 PM
Frozen	122/1824	(4pm)	169/ 2724	(4pm)	208/ 2724	(4:30pm)	304/2274	(4:30pm)	$8.5m	6:00 PM
A Beautiful Day ...	30/768	(4pm)	30/768	(4pm)	36/768	(4:30pm)	52/768	(4:30pm)	$.9m	6:00 PM
21 Bridges	26/492	(4pm)	25/492	(4pm)	30/492	(4:30pm)	44/492	(4:30pm)	$.7m	7:00 PM
Knives Out (F&S eps)	42/514	(4pm)	53/514	(4pm)	67/514	(4:30pm)	85/514	(4:30pm)	$2.03m	7:00 PM
Knives Out (Wed)	42/937	(4pm)	81/937	(5:30pm)					$1.66m	7:00 PM
Jumanji 2	72/1864	(4pm)	120/3381	(5:30pm)	141/3381	(5:30pm)	178/3381	(4pm)	$4.7m	4:00 PM
Black Christmas	22/512	(4pm)	24/512	(5:30pm)	24/512	(5:30pm)	24/512	(4pm)	$.230m	7:00 PM
Star Wars: TROS	2106/4291	(4:30pm)			2331/4547	(9pm)			$40m	6:00 PM
Cats	19/436	(4:30pm)			22/436	(5:30pm)			$.55m	7:00 PM
1917			20/512	(7pm)			36/512	(1:45pm)	$3.25m	7:00 PM
Just Mercy			20/512	(7pm)	20/512	(5pm)	20/512	(1:45pm)	$.8m	5:00 PM
Underwater			22/512	(7pm)			22/512	(1:45pm)	$.5m	7:00 PM
Like A Boss			10/514	(7pm)			13/514	(1:45pm)	$1m	7:00 PM
Doolittle	26/512	(4pm)	38/832	(9pm)	51/1285	(7pm)	67/1285	(5pm)	$.9m	5:00 PM
Bad Boys 3	46/903	(4pm)	84/1543	(9pm)	121/2018	(7pm)	246/2018	(5pm)	$6.36m	4:00 PM
The Gentlemen	22/512	(4pm)	22/512	(4pm)	26/512	(4pm)	33/512	(4pm)	$.73m	7:00 PM
Turning	15/410	(4pm)	14/410	(4pm)	14/410	(4pm)	21/410	(4pm)	$.43m	7:00 PM
Gretel & Hansel			28/602	(7pm)	29/602	(6pm)	31/602; 43/602	(4pm) (7pm)	$.235m	7:00 PM
Rhythm Nation			20/512	(7pm)	22/512	(6pm)	24/512 ; 31/512	(4pm) (7pm)	$.475m	7:00 PM
Birds Of Prey	71/1844	(5pm)	84/1844	(7:30pm)	106/1844	(7:45pm)	166/1844	(5pm)	$4m	6:00 PM
Sonic			56/771	(5pm)	93/1499	(5pm)	118/1499	(4pm)	$3m	5:00 PM
Downhill			15/410	(5pm)	15/410	(5pm)	17/410	(4pm)	$.2m	6:00 PM
Photograph			28/760	(5pm)	29/760	(5pm)	39/760	(4pm)	$.65m	5:00 PM
Call Of The Wild	15/410	(4pm)			36/1050	(4pm)	40/1050	(4pm)	$1m	6:00 PM
Brahms: The Boy II	20/510	(4pm)			24/510	(4pm)	28/510	(4pm)	$.38m	7:00 PM
Invisible Man	42/1151	(4pm)	44/1151	(4pm)	48/1151	(5pm)	70/1151	(6:30pm)		7:00 PM
Onward (Sat sneaks)	53/160	(4pm)	56/160	(4pm)	76/160	(5pm)	80/160	(6:30pm)		3pm (Sat)
Black Widow	239/3584	(5pm)			326/3584	(5pm)	498/3584	(4pm)	$13.2m	5:00 PM

 

 

Snake Eyes (Thur Prev)

Wed 9pm

14/301
0/301

= 14/602

 

Ehhh....   

 

This is lower than Downhill (15/410) ($.2m previews) = ($.186m previews and I don't even remember what that movie was. 

 

Rhythm Nation (22/512) ($.475m) = $.3m previews

The Gentleman (26/512) ($.73m) =$.39m previews

Terminator:DF (76/1242)  ($2.35m= $.46m previews

 

Maybe they're saving up to spend on the next two weeks  in advance - yeah not so much

 

Jungle Cruise (Thur Prev)
Wed (9:30pm) / July 21

0/320
0/320
0/301
2/205
0/301
2/205

= 4/1652

 

Suicide Redux (Thur Prev)
Wed (9:30pm) / July 21

2/320
2/320
2/301
0/301

= 6/1242

 

Edited July 22, 2021 by TalismanRing

[keysersoze123]

3 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

 

To add to that, seat B19 in the following map can never be purchased:

 

https://www.cinemark.com/TicketSeatMap/?TheaterId=417&ShowtimeId=413073&CinemarkMovieId=84699&Showtime=2021-08-05T19:20:00

 

That IS a DBOX theater for the record (everything in row F and row G, along with seats E9 and E7).  In that particular showing, only the seats D10, D11 and J6, J7 have been actually purchased.

 

You can see this in action by comparing that 7:20pm showing with this 10:30pm showing on the same night:

 

https://www.cinemark.com/TicketSeatMap/?TheaterId=417&ShowtimeId=413074&CinemarkMovieId=84699&Showtime=2021-08-05T22:30:00

 

Same marked out DBOX seats I mentioned before, along with B19 which is a truly unavailable seat.

 

(I don't see why you'd need them, but the DBOX seat maps for those two showings are here and here). 

DBOX is easy to figure out as DBOX seats have different tags to normal seats. So you need to count only seats that show DBOX unavailble. 

 

But the example you showed about an unavailable seat(B19) that is not sold is tough one. I dont see anything in html code to separate with normal sold ticket. That said when you are looking at large amount of seats(most wide releases at least has 500K seats, few anomalies wont matter while projecting), its irrelevant. But in your situation as well I would think its irrelevant as you track 10K+ seats per movie. 1% of data being bad wont change overall projections. You issue is anamolies with one market over performing or under performing for certain reasons(Genre, Weather, other factors). That said you have been very close with your sample and so keep doing it. 

 

Spoiler

<button available="False" class="seatUnavailable seatBlock" id="row1col0" info="B,19,1,0,413073" physicalDistanceBuffer="False" seatType="seat" selected="False" showtimeId="413073" title="Unavailable Seat B19" type="button"><span class="sr-only">Row B Seat 19 Unavailable</span><div class="seatArmLeft"></div><div class="seat"><span aria-hidden="true" class="seatDesignation">B19</span></div><div class="seatArmRight"></div></button>
<button available="False" class="seatUnavailable seatBlock" id="row3col8" info="D,11,3,8,413073" physicalDistanceBuffer="False" seatType="seat" selected="False" showtimeId="413073" title="Unavailable Seat D11" type="button"><span class="sr-only">Row D Seat 11 Unavailable</span><div class="seatArmLeft"></div><div class="seat"><span aria-hidden="true" class="seatDesignation">D11</span></div><div class="seatArmRight"></div></button>

 

[filmlover]

Feeling $15M is the ceiling for both of this weekend's openers given how little buzz there is surrounding them.

[Eric Atreides]

23 hours ago, Snake Eric said:

Old Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-2 and Counting (Thu)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	24	190	3910	4.86%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 55

 

Comp

0.189x of Conjuring 3 2 Days Before Release (1.85M)

2.065x of Forever Purge T-2 (2.75M)

1.310x of Escape Room 2 T-2 (1.57M)

Old Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting (Thu)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	25	263	3943	6.67%

 

Total Showings Added Today: 1

Total Seats Added Today: 33

Total Seats Sold Today: 73

 

Comp

0.174x of Conjuring 3 1 Day Before Release (1.71M)

1.765x of Forever Purge T-1 (2.35M)

1.027x of Escape Room 2 T-1 (1.23M)

 

Yeesh.

[Eric Atreides]

On 7/20/2021 at 11:04 PM, Snake Eric said:

Snake Eyes Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-2 and Counting (Thu)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	35	203	6074	3.34%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 8

Total Seats Added Today: 872

Total Seats Sold Today: 53

 

Comp

0.110x of Mortal Kombat's Fri 2 Days Before Release (1M)

0.079x of A Quiet Place Part II's Thu+Fri T-2 (1.53M)

0.374x of Cruella's Thu+Fri T-2 (2.89M)

 

Well it is doing a touch better than Old, but not by that much. Don't really see a breakout for either at this point.

Snake Eyes Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting (Thu)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	36	260	6111	4.25%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 1

Total Seats Added Today: 37

Total Seats Sold Today: 57

 

Comp

0.111x of Mortal Kombat's Fri 1 Day Before Release (1.01M)

0.074x of A Quiet Place Part II's Thu+Fri T-1 (1.43M)

0.326x of Cruella's Thu+Fri T-1 (2.51M)

 

Blech.

[Eric Atreides]

23 hours ago, Snake Eric said:

Jungle Cruise Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-9 and Counting (Thu)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	37	68	7571	0.90%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 2

Total Seats Added Today: 144

Total Seats Sold Today: 18

 

Comp

0.531x of Cruella's Thu+Fri T-9 (4.09M)

 

Surprisingly good today, at least compared to others, but still nothing too crazy at this point. I wish I had other family comps I could use here (I have Space Jam, but that overindexed), if only because I feel Cruella might have underperformed here. Maybe when things get closer I'll add in a few weird PG-13 comps, who knows?

Jungle Cruise Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-8 and Counting (Thu)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	37	77	7571	1.02%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 9

 

Comp

0.475x of Cruella's Thu+Fri T-8 (3.66M)

 

I mean...yeah that would be a good preview number, but I doubt it will go that high just judging by how muted other people's numbers are. So...ick.

[Eric Atreides]

23 hours ago, Snake Eric said:

The Suicide Squad Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-16 and Counting (Thu)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	35	235	8111	2.90%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 13

 

Comp

0.335x of F9 T-16 (2.38M)

0.133x of Black Widow T-16 (1.75M)

 

Yeah this needs to pick up some momentum pronto, but I don't want to harp on it too much. We already argued about it last night and it's too early to pick this up again.

The Suicide Squad Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-15 and Counting (Thu)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	35	249	8111	3.07%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 14

 

Comp

0.141x of Black Widow T-15 (1.86M)

 

I couldn't do F9 as I forgot to track it on that day, so it'll pop back tomorrow.

 

Still very small numbers, but it did perk up on the BW side of things, which might be a sign of good things to come. But if not...at least Shang-Chi has a greater chance to break out? Maybe? Possibly?

[Legion Again]

The only strong looking product between here and Shang-Chi has always been just TSS imo. And that’s got some baggage, though I can’t claim to have expected sales this low at this time.