The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[xiazhi]

10 hours ago, Krissykins said:

Jungle Cruise and Suicide Squad have the same budget, do they not? $200m each?
 

So I don’t know if a $30m opening is acceptable for Jungle Cruise either. Surely that film isn’t getting a free pass? 

 

The Suicide Squad is free on HBOMax on Thursday evening btw everyone. Usually it’s a Friday. 

I'll say Jungle Cruise underperformed too. But at least it has that PA money to cover its loss.

[RRA]

6 hours ago, xiazhi said:

I'll say Jungle Cruise underperformed too. But at least it has that PA money to cover its loss.

If I give Disney the dollars from my old Monopoly board, will that help?

[charlie Jatinder]

On 7/31/2021 at 11:11 AM, charlie Jatinder said:

The Suicide Squad California Harkins T-6 Days

Format	Shows	Capacity	Sold	% Sold	Gross	ATP
Normal	19	4,734	48	1.01%	$608	$12.67
Cine 1	4	1,708	187	10.95%	$2,992	$16.00
Total	23	6,442	235	3.65%	$3,600	$15.32

 

Shows Added	2
Seats Added	294
Seats Sold	43

The Suicide Squad California Harkins T-5 Days

 

Format	Shows	Capacity	Sold	% Sold	Gross	ATP
Normal	20	4,842	52	1.07%	$658	$12.65
Cine 1	4	1,708	199	11.65%	$3,184	$16.00
Total	24	6,550	251	3.83%	$3,842	$15.31

 

Shows Added	1
Seats Added	108
Seats Sold	16

 

Granted I pulled these numbers 4 hours early but 10 seats is still nothing great. Will see if I can do a check later on.

 

Edit:

 

Am not gonna regularly track it but Estrella Fall, #3 theater in Chain for Black Widow has so far sold 100 seats grossing $1,443 (8.2%) on 4 shows. That's 22% of BW T-7 Days, so T-5 days is probably 20%, giving around $2.6M.

 

Edit 2: Only 6 more tickets sold in one show.

Edited August 1, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[Eric Duncan]

23 hours ago, Skipper Eric said:

The Suicide Squad Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-6 and Counting (Thu)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	36	461	8211	5.61%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 46

 

Comp

0.404x of F9 T-6 (2.87M)

0.161x of Black Widow T-6 (2.12M)

The Suicide Squad Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-5 and Counting (Thu)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	36	511	8211	6.22%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 50

 

Comp

0.395x of F9 T-5 (2.8M)

0.167x of Black Widow T-6 (2.2M)

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

A brief glimpse at seating charts so far and Suicide Squad hasn’t noticeably picked up the pace at my theaters. 
 

Night House is on sale as well as Respect but not Free Guy yet

[Yandereprime101189]

Sorta surprised how Suicide Squad is doing considering how hyped up it seemed to be.

[xiazhi]

4 hours ago, RRA said:

If I give Disney the dollars from my old Monopoly board, will that help?

What are you trying to say?

[RRA]

13 minutes ago, xiazhi said:

What are you trying to say?

Tongue and cheek way of making light of the PA propaganda used for weeks, when they don’t keep every dollar. It might as well be using imaginary currency with the dollars they don’t actually collect ala Monopoly money.

[BadOlCatSylvester]

2 hours ago, Yandereprime101189 said:

Sorta surprised how Suicide Squad is doing considering how hyped up it seemed to be.

Don't be. We all saw what happened with Birds of Prey. People detested the first movie, so any sequel to or spinoff from that might as well be a stillborn. The stench is simply too powerful. I'm shocked that this movie was even made at all.

 

Even without COVID, there was simply no way in hell this was ever going to be profitable at all. I just hope when this inevitably bombs it doesn't affect Marvel's confidence in James Gunn.

[Porthos]

On 7/30/2021 at 10:46 PM, Porthos said:

 

The Suicide Squad Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-6 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	87	14570	15124	554	3.66%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

36

 

T-6 Unadjusted Comp

%

Sold T-6

Total Sold

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

Comp

Ont Comp

BW

13.61

256

4070

0/178

21664/25734

15.82%

1.80m

1.88m

ONTARIO COMP NOTE: Ont Comp is the number given in the Comp column/0.955 to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market.

 

T-6 Adjusted Comps 

	%		Sold T-6	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp		Ont Comp
AQP II	55.39		71	993		5/82	2454/3447	28.81%		2.66m		2.78m
F9	35.03		79	1493		0/87	11891/13384	11.16%		2.49m		2.60m
TSS (AQP adj)	---		36	550		0/87	14439/14989	3.67%		---		---
TSS (F9 adj)	---		28	523		0/75	12359/12882	4.06%		---		---

SELLOUT NOTE:  Locally, AQP II was still under a capacity cap, which greatly inflated the number of sellouts as well as depressing the amount of seats available.

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TSS (AQP adj) is the amount of seats sold without DBOX seats counted, which started to be tracked with F9's track and TSS (F9 adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in F9's track.

 

EXTREMELY UNOFFICIAL COMP:  1.08669x of Hobbs & Shaw at T-6* [5.36m after adjusting for pandemic era environment]

* at theaters/showings I had the same level of tracking info.

 

The Suicide Squad Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-5 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	87	14514	15124	610	4.03%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

56

 

T-5 Unadjusted Comp

%

Sold T-5

Total Sold

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

Comp

Ont Comp

BW

14.12

250

4320

0/193

22993/27313

15.82%

1.86m

1.95m

ONTARIO COMP NOTE: Ont Comp is the number given in the Comp column/0.955 to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market.

 

T-5 Adjusted Comps 

	%		Sold T-5	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp		Ont Comp
AQP II	52.42		163	1156		6/83	2342/3498	33.05%		2.52m		2.63m
F9	35.62		113	1606		0/89	11878/13484	11.91%		2.53m		2.65m
TSS (AQP adj)	---		56	606		0/87	14383/14989	4.04%		---		---
TSS (F9 adj)	---		49	572		0/75	12310/12882	4.44%		---		---

SELLOUT NOTE:  Locally, AQP II was still under a capacity cap, which greatly inflated the number of sellouts as well as depressing the amount of seats available.

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TSS (AQP adj) is the amount of seats sold without DBOX seats counted, which started to be tracked with F9's track and TSS (F9 adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in F9's track.

 

EXTREMELY UNOFFICIAL COMP:  1.06631x of Hobbs & Shaw at T-5* [5.26m after adjusting for pandemic era environment]

* at theaters/showings I had the same level of tracking info.

[Porthos]

2 hours ago, Yandereprime101189 said:

Sorta surprised how Suicide Squad is doing considering how hyped up it seemed to be.

 

The buzz is very very good.  The hype looks to be next to non-existent. Usually buzz and hype go and in hand, but in this case there seems to be a remarkable divergence.  And the film is running out of time for it to turn around.

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

38 minutes ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:

Don't be. We all saw what happened with Birds of Prey. People detested the first movie, so any sequel to or spinoff from that might as well be a stillborn. The stench is simply too powerful. I'm shocked that this movie was even made at all.

 

Even without COVID, there was simply no way in hell this was ever going to be profitable at all. I just hope when this inevitably bombs it doesn't affect Marvel's confidence in James Gunn.

I think Gunn is in a win win situation regardless. He’s already got Guardians 3/Holiday special in production with Marvel and Peacemaker in post at WB. And it’s only my impression, Gunn is probably personally done with Marvel after this stint 

[TheCinephile]

Just did three theatres in Ontario. Two bigger ones in Toronto and a smaller one from my hometown. Had to estimate the total seats for some of the theatres because we do physical distancing here so if I buy a single seat for myself, nobody is sitting on my left or right. Cineplex just blocks those seats off. Is any US state doing that? I don’t know how much Ontario will help. Maybe it’s doing better in other provinces. 
 

T-4 to Thursday night: 
 

Scotiabank - 

IMAX 

7:00pm - 97 sold / 400 

10:15pm - 58 sold / 400 

Regular 

7:30pm - 28 sold / 312 

8:00pm - 15 sold / 300 

10:45pm - 4 sold / 360 

11:00 - 0 sold / 312
 

202 / 2084 = 9.69% sold (estimate) 

 

Yorkdale 

Ultra avx 

7:30pm - 32 sold / 300 

10:30pm - 6 sold / 300 

Regular 

7:00pm - 6 sold / 420 

8:00pm - 6 sold / 420 

10:00pm: 1 sold / 445 

11:00pm: 0 sold / 350

 

51 / 2235 = 2.28 % sold (estimate) 

Silvercity Richmond Hill 

 

ultra avx 

7:25pm - 20 sold / 315 

10:30pm - 9 sold / 315

Regular 

7:00pm - 3 sold / 288 

10:05pm - 0 sold / 288

 

 

32 / 1206 = 2.65% 

 

The regular late night showings simply won’t sell because nobody wants them and it’s too late unless a few older teenagers/people in their early twenties decide to go soon. I hope this is helpful 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

 

[Krissykins]

4 hours ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:

Even without COVID, there was simply no way in hell this was ever going to be profitable at all. I just hope when this inevitably bombs it doesn't affect Marvel's confidence in James Gunn.

He’s just had the best reviewed film of his career  

 

Plus, by your rationale: Jungle Cruise just bombed too then. And with mixed reviews. 

 

I don’t think that’ll put Disney off working with The Rock and Emily Blunt again. 

Edited August 1, 2021 by Krissykins

[Chicago]

4 hours ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:

Don't be. We all saw what happened with Birds of Prey. People detested the first movie, so any sequel to or spinoff from that might as well be a stillborn. The stench is simply too powerful. I'm shocked that this movie was even made at all.

 

Even without COVID, there was simply no way in hell this was ever going to be profitable at all. I just hope when this inevitably bombs it doesn't affect Marvel's confidence in James Gunn.

I think BOP is a poor comparrisson. BOP had a fraction of the budget and was advertised as a fashion show. The reviews were't good enough to bring in people who had doubts, it never looked like it had anything fun to offer.

 

Without Covid TSS will have needed what, 500m worldwide to turn a profit? I think that would have happened 

Edited August 1, 2021 by Chicago

[efialtes76]

4 hours ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:

Even without COVID, there was simply no way in hell this was ever going to be profitable at all. I just hope when this inevitably bombs it doesn't affect Marvel's confidence in James Gunn.

What's your problem with this movie?

And you don't  know how would be the boxoffice without Covid and HBO Max.

[Chicago]

1 minute ago, efialtes76 said:

What's your problem with this movie?

And you don't  know how would be the boxoffice without Covid and HBO Max.

What is HBO max? I'm from the UK. Does it mean it's available for free on Friday for the US?

[narniadis]

1 hour ago, Chicago said:

What is HBO max? I'm from the UK. Does it mean it's available for free on Friday for the US?

HBO Max is Warners Streaming service where all of their 2021 films are released on the same day. So yes, its actually free on Thursday evening when previews open. Yet another wrinkle in the puzzle of determining how it will work. 

[katnisscinnaplex]

On 7/31/2021 at 8:03 AM, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Movie	Day	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
Don't Breathe 2	T-12	Jacksonville	5	8	1,199	2	0	0.17%
		Phoenix	2	3	293	3	2	1.02%
		Raleigh	5	10	1,070	2	2	0.19%
Don't Breathe 2 Total			11	21	2,562	7	4	0.27%
Respect	T-12	Jacksonville	5	8	1,544	4	4	0.26%
		Phoenix	4	7	898	2	1	0.22%
		Raleigh	6	12	1,621	5	5	0.31%
Respect Total			15	27	4,063	11	10	0.27%
Respect (Fandango Premier) *	T-8	Jacksonville	3	3	458	15	2	3.28%
		Phoenix	1	1	66	39	0	59.09%
		Raleigh	4	4	605	56	3	9.26%
Respect (FP) Total			8	8	1,129	110	5	9.74%
Suicide Squad	T-5	Jacksonville	6	24	4,399	159	17	3.61%
		Phoenix	6	25	4,277	160	23	3.74%
		Raleigh	8	25	3,230	154	8	4.77%
Suicide Squad Total			20	74	11,906	473	48	3.97%

Movie	Day	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
Don't Breathe 2	T-11	Jacksonville	5	8	1,199	2	0	0.17%
		Phoenix	2	3	293	3	0	1.02%
		Raleigh	5	10	1,070	2	0	0.19%
Don't Breathe 2 Total			12	21	2,562	7	0	0.27%
Respect	T-11	Jacksonville	5	8	1,544	5	1	0.32%
		Phoenix	4	7	898	3	1	0.33%
		Raleigh	6	12	1,621	13	8	0.80%
Respect Total			15	27	4,063	21	10	0.52%
Respect (Fandango Premier)*	T-7	Jacksonville	3	3	458	20	5	4.37%
		Phoenix	1	1	66	39	0	59.09%
		Raleigh	4	4	605	57	1	9.42%
Respect (FP) Total			8	8	1,129	116	6	10.27%
Suicide Squad	T-4	Jacksonville	6	24	4,399	167	8	3.80%
		Phoenix	6	25	4,277	190	30	4.44%
		Raleigh	8	25	3,230	156	2	4.83%
Suicide Squad Total			20	74	11,906	513	40	4.31%

 

TSS ever so slightly inching forward from 2.44m to 2.45m.  At this pace, by Thursday it should be at... 2.49m.

 

*Respect Premier not including one sellout

[Krissykins]

2 hours ago, Chicago said:

What is HBO max? I'm from the UK. Does it mean it's available for free on Friday for the US?

Yep, available for them to watch at home at no extra cost from Thursday.