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Really depends on what you're looking for, but usually the most important takeaway for just a casual glance is the comp.  More on that in a bit.   But even that is highly dependent on a movie being either in a similar genre or having a similar pre-sale pattern as folks will buy tickets at different times during a pre-sale window thanks to a very long list of factors.   Add in that movies will have different promotional schedules during their pre-sales (review embargoes, TV ca
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Shang-Chi MTC2

 

Thursday:

Showings: 2054 (+0)

Seats Sold: 10278/326358 (+2570)

 

Friday:

Showings: 4281

Seats Sold: 6507/685010 (+1559)

 

Healthy second day, expected given the short PS run and the reactions/premiere. The +/- numbers are from a run which I did around the same time yesterday which I did not post.

 

I forgot to press Enter on my Paw Patrol run, will post the number tomorrow morning. 

Shang-Chi MTC2

 

Note: showtime numbers are affected by Cinemark's change in the way they handle DBOX screenings. Sales numbers may also be affected. So don't take the daily pace too seriously yet. 

 

Thursday:

Showings: 1940 (-114)

Seats Sold: 12408/320677 (+2130)

 

Idk.

 

Paw Patrol MTC2

 

Friday:

Showings: 1933 (+32)

Seats Sold: 17989/240940 (+4219)

 

It's strong in isolation but this seems to be massively overindexing in MTC2. 

 

Edit: Looking at Friday partial numbers, I think there is some effect from the DBOX change. Will investigate more tomorrow. 

 

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D'Alessandro is doing some impressive rah-rah writing in that piece. It feels like he is just trying to will SC to a big opening.

What is this supposed to mean when he gave it a huge lowball number :hahaha:

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Paw Patrol Harkins California T-1 Days

Format Shows Capacity Sold % Sold Gross ATP
Normal 33 7,021 362 5.16% $3,514 $9.71
             
Total 33 7,021 362 5.16% $3,514 $9.71

 

These are solid numbers. Shows post 15:00 are 268/2993 with one day of pre-sales to go. At same time, Jungle Cruise had only 245 (123 Normal) seats sold for THU previews while Free Guy was just 53. 


I also tracked 3 Phoenix theaters and 1 Colorado. Going forward will use the sample of these 8 theaters.

 

Format Shows Capacity Sold % Sold Gross ATP
Normal 59 10,767 725 6.73% $6,663 $9.19
             
Total 59 10,767 725 6.73% $6,663 $9.19

 

Phoenix is again selling better than CA. Based of these theaters, I estimate $12-13K pre-sales in Harkins. THU ain't proper comp for a FRI, but feels like it can hit $23K in Harkins California & $100-105K whole chain on Friday. I don't know for sure what FRI ratio of Harkins would be but just by seeing the sell rate I think it will be very unlikely to miss $5M OD.

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Cinemark Davenport 18 + IMAX (Wednesday Night Outlook)

The Night House

Thursday: 

7:00 P.M.: 0/94

9:50 P.M.: 0/94

Total Sold: 0/188 (0% sold)

 

Friday:

10:55 A.M.: 1/94

1:50 P.M.: 0/94

4:40 P.M.: 1/94

7:30 P.M.: 2/94

10:20 P.M.: 0/94

Total Sold: 4/470 (0.85% sold)

 

Thurs + Fri: 4/658 (0.61% sold)


 

Paw Patrol: The Movie

Friday:

10:05 A.M.: 14/238

11:20 A.M.: 0/85

12:35 P.M.: 29/238

1:55 P.M.: 0/85

3:05 P.M.: 13/238

4:20 P.M.: 0/85

5:35 P.M.: 39/238

6:50 P.M.: 11/67

8:05 P.M.: 4/238

Total Sold: 110/1,512 (7.28% sold)

 

Comps: 

45.3% of Space Jam 2: $5.93 mil

56.7% of Jungle Cruise: $7.63 mil

 

 

The Protege 

Thursday:

6:00 P.M.: 6/135

8:50 P.M.: 1/135

Total Sold: 7/270 (2.59% sold)

 

Friday:

10:45 A.M.: 0/135

1:35 P.M.: 2/135

4:25 P.M.: 2/135 

7:15 P.M.: 0/135 

10:05 P.M.: 0/135

Total Sold: 4/675 (0.59% sold)

 

Thurs + Fri: 11/945 (1.16% sold)

 

Comps:

16.7% of Snake Eyes: $0.92 mil

6.5% of The Suicide Squad: $0.79 mil
 

 

Reminiscence

Friday:

IMAX showings: 1/774

3:25 P.M.: 0/387

9:25 P.M.: 1/387

2D showings: 7/425

10:10 A.M.: 3/85

1:10 A.M.: 3/85

4:10 P.M.: 0/85

7:10 P.M.: 1/85

10:10 P.M.: 0/85

Total Sold: 8/1,199 (0.67% sold)

 

 

Haha wow, oh man. Paw Patrol is literally the only film worth even talking about here. Seems to be doing very well at my theater. It had an advanced screening here on Tuesday, which sold fairly well. I didn't manage to get a final count on it, but I imagine it sold more or around half capacity (it was 48/238 total seats when I checked it five hours ahead of time). The Space Jam 2 comp ($5.93 mil) is about what I predict it'll do on Friday, though I personally think it could go higher than that. I know that no Regal theaters probably slashes a percentage of what it could've potentially done, but it really won't make a huge difference in the long run. 

 

Everything else though... would not at all be shocked if they all ended up sub $5 million. I expect that the number of tickets each of these other films have sold will be the order they open in. The Protege could squeak past that barrier, but only barely imo. Reminiscence will probably fall under it. ~$2 mil for The Night House sounds about right.

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Shang-Chi and the Legends of the Ten Rings 

Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-16 days and counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

99

15764

16490

726

4.40%

 

Total Net Showings Added Today

7

Total Net Seats Added Today

840

Total Seats Sold Today

172

 

Day Two Adjusted Comp

 

   %

 

Sold Day Two

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

BW

53.47

 

224

1313

 

0/104

16873/18186

7.22%

 

7.39m

SC (adj)

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148

702

 

0/89

14253/14955

4.69%

 

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COMP NOTE: BW Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: SC (adj) Is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in BW's track.

 

Shang-Chi and the Legends of the Ten Rings 

Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-15 days and counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

101

16156

17002

846

4.98%

 

Total Showings Added Today

2

Total Seats Added Today

512

Total Seats Sold Today

120

 

Day Three Adjusted Comp

 

   %

 

Sold Day Three

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

BW

53.60

 

185

1498

 

0/104

16688/18186

8.24%

 

7.41m

SC (adj)

----

 

101

803

 

0/89

14152/14955

5.37%

 

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COMP NOTE: BW Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: SC (adj) Is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in BW's track.

 

===

 

All wings theaters have now reported in.  Keeping pace, more or less, at 53% of BW at the same time.

 

Tomorrow, I'll provide both a Day 4 comp and a T-14 comp, and starting Friday it'll be T-x only.

 

For @charlie Jatinder:

 

Regal: 140/4469 [3.04% sold]

 

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Shang Chi Harkins T-16 Days

 

Format Shows Capacity Sold % Sold Gross ATP
Normal 72 20,741 238 1.15% $2,811 $11.81
Cine 1 16 4,818 343 7.12% $5,369 $15.65
Cine Capri 4 1,782 32 1.80% $456 $14.25
IMAX 2 890 61 6.85% $915 $15.00
             
Total 94 28,231 674 2.39% $9,551 $14.17

 

I suppose the sales starting a bit late deflated yesterday sales in the chain, looking better now but not as strong as Black Widow which I think whole west coast isn't for some reason. It won't be reaching 50% of BW first 3 days, unless has another solid day.

 

I for other films tracked CA alone, its doing ok in CA. BW was 766 in first 3 days, this may reach 390-400, is currently 316.

 

California only.
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Shang Chi Harkins T-15 Days

Format Shows Capacity Sold % Sold Gross ATP
Normal 84 24,319 282 1.16% $3,318 $11.77
Cine 1 16 4,818 391 8.12% $6,119 $15.65
Cine Capri 4 1,782 32 1.80% $456 $14.25
IMAX 2 890 69 7.75% $1,035 $15.00
             
Total 106 31,809 774 2.43% $10,928 $14.12

 

Sold another 100 seats today. Black Widow in its first 4 days had sold 1700 seats. Shang Chi will may be hit 50% of that. Though the target I am setting is to hit 2K one week from now, when BW had 4.1K sold.

 

Separately in CA, it has sold 367 so far. T-7 days will when I will have comp with TSS and BW. Will be hoping for 650 range atleast there.

 

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Day Movie Area Theaters Shows Total Seats Total Sold New Sales % Sold
T-1 The Night House Jacksonville 5 8 811 6 1 0.74%
    Phoenix 6 9 1,074 12 2 1.12%
    Raleigh 6 12 1,246 10 1 0.80%
  The Night House Total   17 29 3,131 28 4 0.89%
  The Protégé Jacksonville 5 8 970 17 3 1.75%
    Phoenix 6 9 1,370 26 6 1.90%
    Raleigh 7 12 1,423 13 0 0.91%
  The Protégé Total   18 29 3,763 56 9 1.49%
T-15 Shang-Chi Jacksonville 5 36 5,621 153 153 2.72%
    Phoenix 6 26 4,663 202 202 4.33%
    Raleigh 7 26 3,314 225 50 6.79%
  Shang-Chi Total   18 88 13,598 580 405 4.27%
T-2 Paw Patrol (Friday) Jacksonville 3 22 2,108 106 7 5.03%
    Phoenix 7 38 4,727 170 64 3.60%
    Raleigh 3 18 1,581 312 96 19.73%
  Paw Patrol (Friday) Total   13 78 8,416 588 167 6.99%
  Reminiscence (Friday) Jacksonville 5 37 7,083 12 0 0.17%
    Phoenix 7 24 3,171 14 4 0.44%
    Raleigh 7 48 5,672 20 5 0.35%
  Reminiscence (Friday) Total   19 109 15,926 46 9 0.29%

 

Paw Patrol dropped from 5.52m to 5.28m, but still a solid day.  Tons of new showtimes for Reminiscence on Friday, but sales just aren't there for any of the other three openers.  The Protégé fell way behind HWB (97-56), and is now closer to the Zola range (54-56).  Reminiscence has sold 46 tickets, compared to the 47 that the Protégé had yesterday.  Awful for a full Friday OD. 

 

Shang-Chi comps

BW - .324x (4.28m)
F9 - 1.07x (7.61m)

TSS - 2.45x (10.03m)

 

These are all over the place; hopefully they'll converge as time goes on.

Day Movie Area Theaters Shows Total Seats Total Sold New Sales % Sold
T-0 The Night House Jacksonville 5 8 811 12 6 1.48%
    Phoenix 6 9 1,074 14 2 1.30%
    Raleigh 6 12 1,246 14 4 1.12%
  The Night House Total   17 29 3,131 40 12 1.28%
  The Protégé Jacksonville 5 8 970 16 -1 1.65%
    Phoenix 6 9 1,370 34 8 2.48%
    Raleigh 7 12 1,423 20 7 1.41%
  The Protégé Total   18 29 3,763 70 14 1.86%
T-1 Paw Patrol (Friday) Jacksonville 3 22 2,108 135 29 6.40%
    Phoenix 7 38 4,727 240 70 5.08%
    Raleigh 3 18 1,581 401 89 25.36%
  Paw Patrol (Friday) Total   13 78 8,416 776 188 9.22%
  Reminiscence (Friday) Jacksonville 5 37 7,083 19 7 0.27%
    Phoenix 7 24 3,171 18 4 0.57%
    Raleigh 8 50 5,798 36 16 0.62%
  Reminiscence (Friday) Total   20 111 16,052 73 27 0.45%
T-14 Shang-Chi Jacksonville 5 36 5,621 161 8 2.86%
    Phoenix 6 26 4,663 214 12 4.59%
    Raleigh 7 26 3,314 261 36 7.88%
  Shang-Chi Total   18 88 13,598 636 56 4.68%

 

Paw Patrol T-1 comps

Space Jam - .355x (4.65m)

Boss Baby 2 - 4.434x (5.81m)

 

Still thinking around 5m opening day

 

Shang-Chi T-14 comps

BW - .335x (4.43m)

F9 - 1.116x (7.92m)

TSS - 2.575x (10.56m)

 

For previews tonight, only 26 tickets sold for Night House AND Protégé yesterday... one day before they open.   Zola had 72 at this point, but didn't report preview gross.  12 Mighty Orphans had 48 on it's expansion Thursday; again, not reported.   Stillwater had 67 on Thursday morning and earned 280k.  

 

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The Night House Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-2 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 20 40 2302 1.74%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 12

 

Comp

0.435x of The Forever Purge T-2 (578K)

0.276x of Escape Room 2 T-2 (331K)

0.210x of Old T-2 (316K)

The Night House Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 20 66 2302 2.87%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 26

 

Comp

0.442x of The Forever Purge T-1 (589K)

0.258x of Escape Room 2 T-1 (309K)

0.251x of Old T-1 (376K)

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The Protege Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-2 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 20 29 2675 1.08%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 4

Total Seats Added Today: 303

Total Seats LOST Today: 2

 

Comp

0.143x of Snake Eyes T-2 (200K)

0.130x of Free Guy T-2 (286K)

 

No your eyes do not decieve you. Poor Martin Campbell :(

The Protege Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 20 44 2675 1.64%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 15

 

Comp

0.169x of Snake Eyes T-1 (237K)

0.145x of Free Guy T-1 (318K)

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PAW Patrol: The Movie Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting (Fri)

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 51 668 7826 8.54%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 18

Total Seats Added Today: 3,811

Total Seats Sold Today: 147

 

Comp

2.055x of Raya's Thu+Fri Tuesday Before Release (5.35M)

3.227x of Spirit Untamed's Thu+Fri Tuesday Before Release (7.93M)

3.732x of Boss Baby 2's Thu Tuesday Before Release (4.89M)

PAW Patrol: The Movie Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-2 and Counting (Fri)

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 51 996 7826 12.73%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 328

 

Comp

2.311x of Raya's Thu+Fri Wednesday Before Release (6.01M)

3.388x of Spirit Untamed's Thu+Fri Wednesday Before Release (8.33M)

3.703x of Boss Baby 2's Thu Wednesday Before Release (4.85M)

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Reminiscence Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 71 24 9569 0.25%

 

Total Showings Added Today: 30

Total Seats Added Today: 3,539

Total Seats Sold Today: 4

 

Comp

0.667x of Voyagers Tuesday Before Release (346K)

 

It's hard to find other good comps for this, but there's no way this will go as low as the Voyagers comp suggests...or will it????

Reminiscence Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-2 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 71 32 9569 0.33%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 8

 

Comp

0.653x of Voyagers Wednesday Before Release (338K)

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Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-16 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 54 706 10896 6.48%

 

Total Showings Added Today: 1

Total Seats Added Today: 106

Total Seats Sold Today: 196

 

Comp

1.063x of F9 T-16 (7.55M)

0.745x of Black Widow's First Two Days of Presales (9.84M)

0.410x of Black Widow T-16 (5.42M)

3.004x of The Suicide Squad T-16 (12.32M)

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-15 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 54 829 10896 7.61%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 123

 

Comp

1.181x of F9 T-15 (8.38M)

0.784x of Black Widow's First Three Days of Presales (10.35M)

0.469x of Black Widow T-15 (6.19M)

3.329x of The Suicide Squad T-15 (13.65M)

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