The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Inceptionzq]

22 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Shang-Chi Megaplex

 

T-10 days Thursday: 887(+100)/16744 in 15 theaters

 

Black Widow comp: 5.00M

 

T-11 days Friday: 596(+40)/36161 in 15 theaters

 

Black Widow comp: 9.64M

 

Same story as Denver

Shang-Chi Megaplex

 

T-9 days Thursday: 1010(+123)/16744 in 15 theaters

 

Black Widow comp: 5.33M

 

T-10 days Friday: 687(+91)/36161 in 15 theaters

 

Black Widow comp: 10.09M

 

Also a great day here. Glad to finally see Friday's comp increase after a couple days

[keysersoze123]

On 6/29/2021 at 12:55 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Black Widow Megaplex

 

T-9 days Thursday: 2501(+162)/21439 in 14 theaters. $35,014 with $14 ATP

 

T-10 days Friday: 1791(+165)/36370 in 14 theaters. $24,179 with $13.50 ATP

^^^^

 

Thank you @Inceptionzq Can you also post equivalent day for BW Just to see how many tickets were sold for both the movies. So friday sold in mid 50's% of BW and Thursday in mid 70s% of BW. So Friday needs to accelerate even more for comp to go up. Of course walkups on that day will help but MCU movies will be kind of frontloaded with their huge fanbase and family audience is the one hit due to COVID. 

 

 

Anyway MTC OD data

 

Shang Chi Friday(T-10)

MTC1 - 31256/706241 518779.60 3404 shows

MTC2(DBOX adjusted) - 18163/669113 225K 4224 shows

 

 

At MTC1 it grew by 8K in almost 3 days(couple of hours less). I dont have equivalent BW number. T-8 was (65819/796509 897305.00 3983 shows). Based on current pace its somewhere in mid 5's %. 

 

MTC2 grew under 4200 tickets  in past 3 days. Based on @Menor update OD (T-9) sold 31595 tickets. So its ratio of BW od sales is better than MTC1. But BW accelerated over next few days very well(though final few days were below expectations). I would stick with 7-8m previews and 65-70m over 4 days. 

[TalismanRing]

Shang-Chi (Regal Local) (Oddly has not added Vaccine Requirement yet - probably an oversight)

33/1402 (1st day - Midnight)

57/1402  (5:45pm 8/20/21)
78/1402 (4pm 8.22.21)
78/1402 (4pm 8.23.21)
112/1402 (8pm 8.24.21)

 

Candyman (Regal Local) (Vaccine Req)

8/1154 (4pm 8.23.21)

8/1154 (4pm 8.24.21)

 

NYC Local	Mon		Tues		Wed		Thur		Previews	Start
Shang-Chi (-1 week)	78/1402	(4pm)	112/1402	(8pm)						6:00 PM
X-Men: DP			103/942	(4pm)	209/942	(3:15pm)	272/942	(3:45pm)	$5m	6:00 PM
Joker (-1 week)	104/2766	(9am)	172/2766	(4:30pm)			217/3536	(4pm)		4:00 PM
Joker	328/3536	(4:20pm)	399/3536	(4pm)	542/3536	(4pm)	760/3741	(3:45pm)	$13.3m	4:00 PM
Birds Of Prey	71/1844	(5pm)	84/1844	(7:30pm)	106/1844	(7:45pm)	166/1844	(5pm)	$4m	6:00 PM
Black Widow	239/3584	(5pm)			326/3584	(5pm)			$13.2m	5:00 PM
Hobbs & Shaw	60/1543	(5:20pm)			181/1543	(4pm)			$5.8m	7:00 PM
The Suicide Squad	52/1242	(6pm)	58/1242	(6pm)	79/1242	(6pm)	153/1242	(6:15pm)		7:00 PM

 

[Inceptionzq]

15 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Thank you @Inceptionzq Can you also post equivalent day for BW Just to see how many tickets were sold for both the movies.

Yeah, I’ll start doing that

[Menor the Destroyer]

26 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

^^^^

 

Thank you @Inceptionzq Can you also post equivalent day for BW Just to see how many tickets were sold for both the movies. So friday sold in mid 50's% of BW and Thursday in mid 70s% of BW. So Friday needs to accelerate even more for comp to go up. Of course walkups on that day will help but MCU movies will be kind of frontloaded with their huge fanbase and family audience is the one hit due to COVID. 

 

 

Anyway MTC OD data

 

Shang Chi Friday(T-10)

MTC1 - 31256/706241 518779.60 3404 shows

MTC2(DBOX adjusted) - 18163/669113 225K 4224 shows

 

 

At MTC1 it grew by 8K in almost 3 days(couple of hours less). I dont have equivalent BW number. T-8 was (65819/796509 897305.00 3983 shows). Based on current pace its somewhere in mid 5's %. 

 

MTC2 grew under 4200 tickets  in past 3 days. Based on @Menor update OD (T-9) sold 31595 tickets. So its ratio of BW od sales is better than MTC1. But BW accelerated over next few days very well(though final few days were below expectations). I would stick with 7-8m previews and 65-70m over 4 days. 

31595 was T-11. It was 34658 T-10.

[charlie Jatinder]

Overall sales I had $3.4M T-10 days for BW THU & $2.05M for SC ($1.9M without Canada).

 

BW added $10M. Hopefully SC can add $7M+.

Edited August 25, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[Moony]

It's a great to go and what about the SSH 

[Eric Atreides]

On 8/23/2021 at 11:25 PM, Eric Robitaille said:

Candyman Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	24	236	4569	5.17%

 

Comp

0.557x of Spiral Thu+Fri (2.07M)

0.195x of Space Jam 2 Fri (2.56M)

Candyman Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-2 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	35	384	6806	5.64%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 11

Total Seats Added Today: 2,237

Total Seats Sold Today: 148

 

Comp

0.684x of Spiral Thu+Fri T-2 (2.55M)

0.234x of Space Jam 2 Fri 2 Days Before Release (3.07M)

 

It's always kinda wonky tracking films like Candyman because they overindex here in Philly, but looking elsewhere...this is looking like a breakout. Color me impressed.

[Eric Atreides]

On 8/23/2021 at 11:33 PM, Eric Robitaille said:

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-10 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	57	1182	11239	9.70%

 

Total Showings Added Today: 3

Total Seats Added Today: 343

Total Seats Sold Today: 125

 

Comp

1.327x of F9 T-10 (9.42M)

0.534x of Black Widow T-10 (7.05M)

3.776x of The Suicide Squad T-10 (15.48M)

 

Yep, there's definitely a review bump here today.

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-9 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	60	1319	11464	11.51%

 

Total Showings Added Today: 3

Total Seats Added Today: 225

Total Seats Sold Today: 137

 

Comp

1.409x of F9 T-9 (10M)

0.556x of Black Widow T-9 (7.34M)

3.937x of The Suicide Squad T-9 (16.14M)

 

Might be overselling this, but this was a really good day, considering this was a day after reviews dropped (though the afterglow would obviously still be there) and the Widow comp still saw a solid increase, despite T-9 being Widow's review day. And yeah I know both had different sales patterns, but I think there's a lot to commend here IMO

[Porthos]

On 8/23/2021 at 10:35 PM, Porthos said:

 

Shang-Chi and the Legends of the Ten Rings 

Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-10 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	101	15632	17002	1370	8.06%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

149

 

T-10 Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold T-10	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
BW	44.46		142	2908		0/119	16352/19260	15.10%		6.15m
SC (adj)	----		147	1293		0/89	13662/14955	8.65%		----

COMP NOTE: BW Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: SC (adj) Is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in BW's track.

PRE-SALE NOTE: Black Widow has ten more days of pre-sales than Shang-Chi at this point in its track.

 

Regal: 268/4609 [5.81% sold] [+41 tickets]

 

Shang-Chi and the Legends of the Ten Rings 

Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-9 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	108	15995	17487	1492	8.53%

 

Total Showings Added Today	7*
Total Seats Added Today	485
Total Seats Sold Today	122

* Includes two showings from non-reserved seating theaters.

 

T-9 Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold T-9	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
BW	45.37		171	3079		0/122	16185/19264	15.98%		6.27m
SC (adj)	----		104	1397		096	14043/15440	9.05%		----

COMP NOTE: BW Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: SC (adj) Is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in BW's track.

PRE-SALE NOTE: Black Widow has ten more days of pre-sales than Shang-Chi at this point in its track.

 

Regal: 286/4609 [6.12% sold] [+18 tickets]

 

===

 

A solid post-review day, but a bit uneven at theaters across the region.  Comp didn't increase as much as it might have, as T-9 was when BW had its review drop.  Tomorrow might also be a bit squirrely, as there is a school of thought that BW was benefitting from Loki drops on Wednesday on D+.

 

T-8 is also when a batch of Cinema West theaters would return to the BW comp (with the last showing up on T-7) so the comp will probably move a bit or two in either direction.

 

Not much else to say.  For now, at least.  Do have some gut instincts on how this playing out but I want to see the WThF numbers in comparison to BW before really settling in on said instincts.

Edited August 25, 2021 by Porthos
forgot to update a field

[Menor the Destroyer]

6 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

Shang-Chi and the Legends of the Ten Rings 

Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-9 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	108	15995	17487	1492	8.53%

 

Total Showings Added Today	7*
Total Seats Added Today	485
Total Seats Sold Today	122

* Includes two showings from non-reserved seating theaters.

 

T-9 Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold T-9	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
BW	45.37		171	3079		0/122	16185/19264	15.98%		6.15m
SC (adj)	----		104	1397		096	14043/15440	9.05%		----

COMP NOTE: BW Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: SC (adj) Is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in BW's track.

PRE-SALE NOTE: Black Widow has ten more days of pre-sales than Shang-Chi at this point in its track.

 

Regal: 286/4609 [6.12% sold] [+18 tickets]

 

===

 

A solid post-review day, but a bit uneven at theaters across the region.  Comp didn't increase as much as it might have, as T-9 was when BW had its review drop.  Tomorrow might also be a bit squirrely, as there is a school of thought that BW was benefitting from Loki drops on Wednesday on D+.

 

T-8 is also when a batch of Cinema West theaters would return to the BW comp (with the last showing up on T-7) so the comp will probably move a bit or two in either direction.

 

Not much else to say.  For now, at least.  Do have some gut instincts on how this playing out but I want to see the WThF numbers in comparison to BW before really settling in on said instincts.

Shouldn't the comp be 6.25 million now? 

[charlie Jatinder]

On 8/24/2021 at 10:46 AM, charlie Jatinder said:

Shang Chi Harkins T-10 Days

 

Format	Shows	Capacity	Sold	% Sold	Gross	ATP
Normal	86	25,587	485	1.90%	$5,686	$11.72
Cine 1	16	4,818	698	14.49%	$10,858	$15.56
Cine Capri	4	1,782	67	3.76%	$981	$14.64
IMAX	2	890	112	12.58%	$1,680	$15.00
Total	108	33,077	1,362	4.12%	$19,205	$14.10

 

Comps
49.3% of Black Widow Gross T-10 Days - $6.9M

43.9% of Black Widow Admits T-10 Days - $6.1M

 

Sold 180 seats today but 16 seats were removed as a show was mistakenly put in Cine1 category but was later corrected in Normal, so people waking up and cancelling that. Net sold were 164.

 

BW added $204K in its final 10 days, if SC manage say 70% of that pace, it will hit $162K, which will point toward $9M plus Previews for it. The first test of that will be in next 3 days. BW added 1030 admits ($12,734) in next 3 days of its run. SC should at least add 600 or ($7.6K that will however need only 550 admits).

I was late today but HUGE bump. A lot of new shows were added but just the old ones sold 307 seats. 

 

 

Now adding the newer shows.

Edited August 25, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[katnisscinnaplex]

On 8/24/2021 at 8:14 AM, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-2	Candyman	Jacksonville	6	14	2,566	68	14	2.65%
		Phoenix	6	16	3,180	72	15	2.26%
		Raleigh	7	13	1,609	64	17	3.98%
	Candyman Total		19	43	7,355	204	46	2.77%
T-9	Shang-Chi	Jacksonville	5	36	5,621	290	45	5.16%
		Phoenix	6	27	4,769	346	43	7.26%
		Raleigh	7	28	3,509	340	29	9.69%
	Shang-Chi Total		18	91	13,899	976	117	7.02%

 

As others mentioned, reviews bump for Shang-Chi gave it a BW-like T-9 (120-117)

 

Shang-Chi comps

BW - .398x (5.25m)

F9 - 1.129x (8.02m)

TSS - 3.088x (12.6m)

 

Candyman comps

Old - 1.545x (2.32m)

Forever Purge - 2x (2.66m)

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-1	Candyman	Jacksonville	6	14	2,566	102	34	3.98%
		Phoenix	6	16	3,180	95	23	2.99%
		Raleigh	7	17	1,865	97	33	5.20%
	Candyman Total		19	47	7,611	294	90	3.86%
T-8	Shang-Chi	Jacksonville	6	38	5,852	324	34	5.54%
		Phoenix	6	32	5,304	381	35	7.18%
		Raleigh	7	28	3,509	382	42	10.89%
	Shang-Chi Total		19	98	14,665	1,087	111	7.41%

 

Solid day post-reviews for Shang-Chi.   It keeps gaining on the comps at a pretty good pace - starting to see the breakout that others are calling for.  

 

Shang-Chi comps

BW - .415x (5.48m)

F9 - 1.208x (8.57m)

TSS - 3.178x (13.03m)

 

Still trying to figure out the best comp for Candyman.  It fell a little against Old (beating it in sales but at a lower rate) but increased against Forever Purge, making the range even larger.  If it plays like other horror movies released this year, it should be in the high 2s.

 

Candyman comps

Old - 1.455x (2.18m)

FPurge - 2.178x (2.9m)

[charlie Jatinder]

On 8/24/2021 at 10:46 AM, charlie Jatinder said:

Shang Chi Harkins T-10 Days

 

Format	Shows	Capacity	Sold	% Sold	Gross	ATP
Normal	86	25,587	485	1.90%	$5,686	$11.72
Cine 1	16	4,818	698	14.49%	$10,858	$15.56
Cine Capri	4	1,782	67	3.76%	$981	$14.64
IMAX	2	890	112	12.58%	$1,680	$15.00
Total	108	33,077	1,362	4.12%	$19,205	$14.10

 

Comps
49.3% of Black Widow Gross T-10 Days - $6.9M

43.9% of Black Widow Admits T-10 Days - $6.1M

 

Sold 180 seats today but 16 seats were removed as a show was mistakenly put in Cine1 category but was later corrected in Normal, so people waking up and cancelling that. Net sold were 164.

 

BW added $204K in its final 10 days, if SC manage say 70% of that pace, it will hit $162K, which will point toward $9M plus Previews for it. The first test of that will be in next 3 days. BW added 1030 admits ($12,734) in next 3 days of its run. SC should at least add 600 or ($7.6K that will however need only 550 admits).

Shang Chi Harkins T-9 Days

Format	Shows	Capacity	Sold	% Sold	Gross	ATP
Normal	134	36,186	655	1.81%	$7,689	$11.74
Cine 1	16	4,818	834	17.31%	$12,945	$15.52
Cine Capri	4	1,782	79	4.43%	$1,161	$14.70
IMAX	2	890	129	14.49%	$1,935	$15.00
Total	156	43,676	1,697	3.89%	$23,730	$13.98

 

Sold 307 seats in existing 108 shows and another 28 seats in 48 new shows. Massive day after review bump which I expected, as good reviews are more likely to help this than Black Widow.

 

BW had $51K gross at T-7 days, If we manage one more 200+ day today , can easily be 2K plus on T-7 Days, for a gross of $28K+, which will put it in place to target that $10M equivalent gross in the chain.

 

Ofcourse its a small regional chain so not really representative of National numbers, but it is what it is.

Edited August 25, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[ThomasNicole]

How's Candyman doing? Still similar to Old?

 

Reviews just started to drop and they're pretty good so far. Let's see if it will make impact on presales.

[Porthos]

3 hours ago, Menor said:

Shouldn't the comp be 6.25 million now? 

 

6.27m, actually.  Just forgot to update the field.

 

Fixed.

[Nikostar]

Have a feeling Candyman is about to see a big bump.

[Krissykins]

29 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:

How's Candyman doing? Still similar to Old?

 

Reviews just started to drop and they're pretty good so far. Let's see if it will make impact on presales.

Updated 3 hours ago above 

3 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Still trying to figure out the best comp for Candyman.  It fell a little against Old (beating it in sales but at a lower rate) but increased against Forever Purge, making the range even larger.  If it plays like other horror movies released this year, it should be in the high 2s.

 

Candyman comps

Old - 1.455x (2.18m)

FPurge - 2.178x (2.9m)

 

[ThomasNicole]

3 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

Updated 3 hours ago above 

 

Nice, really hoping the excellent reviews will help it to open above 20M.

[charlie Jatinder]

On 8/20/2021 at 3:10 PM, charlie Jatinder said:

Shang Chi Cineplex T-14 Days

 

Calgary - 342 (8)

Edmonton - 350 (6)

Vancouver + Victoria, Surrey, etc - 1525 (17)

Total - 2217 (31)

 

The BW numbers are 5 days of sales vs 4 days of Shang Chi but BW was just 3 days away from release, so. About 34% of BW, with 2 weeks of sales to go. Quite solid IMO.

 

cc @DAJK

Shang Chi T-9 Days

 

Calgary - 627 (8)

Edmonton - 576 (6)