The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Legion Again]

TFA did 50% (49.96%, lol) of Dec 2015

TA 52% of May 2012

Edited September 14, 2021 by Legion of the Ten Crores

[Porthos]

On 9/12/2021 at 10:51 PM, Porthos said:

 

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-18 Days and Counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	150	24618	25241	623	2.47%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

54

 

Day 5 Comp

	%		Sold Day 5	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
F9	97.50		56	639		0/93	13462/14101	4.53%		7.25m
TSS	232.46		9	268		0/81	13684/13952	1.92%		9.76m
SC	58.55		97	1064		0/101	15983/17002	6.26%		5.15m

COMP NOTE: The F9 Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955). Neither the TSS nor the SC Comp have been adjusted.

 

Day 5 Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold Day 5	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
BW	35.92		95	1698		0/104	16488/18186	9.34%		4.97m
V2 (adj)	---		44	610		0/136	22471/23081	2.64%		---

COMP NOTE: The BW Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: V2 (adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters that had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in BW's track.

 

Regal: 146/6823 [2.14% sold] [+7 tickets]

 

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T-x comps for all movies, starting tomorrow.

 

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-17 Days and Counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	150	24566	25241	675	2.67%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

52

 

T-17 Comp           VERY LOL-TASTIC FOR SOME - USE AT OWN RISK

	%		Sold T-17	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
F9	86.76		91	778		0/93	13323/14101	5.52%		6.45m
TSS	241.07		12	280		0/81	13672/13952	2.01%		10.13m
SC	121.84		554	554		0/92	15096/15650	3.54%		10.72m

PRE-SALE NOTE:  Venom 2's tickets have been on sale for five days more than Shang-Chi while F9 was on sale for one more day than Venom 2. 

COMP NOTE: The F9 Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955). Neither the TSS nor the SC Comp have been adjusted.

 

T-17 Adjusted Comp            FAIRLY LOL-TASTIC - USE AT OWN RISK

	%		Sold T-17	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
BW	29.97		94	2189		0/117	16941/19130	10.95%		4.14m
V2 (adj)	---		46	656		0/136	22425/23081	2.84%		---

PRE-SALE NOTE:  Black Widow's tickets have been on sale for five days more than Venom 2.

COMP NOTE: The BW Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: V2 (adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters that had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in BW's track.

 

Regal: 157/6823 [2.30% sold] [+11 tickets]

[charlie Jatinder]

On 9/9/2021 at 1:41 PM, charlie Jatinder said:

Venom Harkins T-22 Days

Format	Shows	Capacity	Sold	% Sold	Gross	ATP
Normal	70	19,027	40	0.21%	$455	$11.38
Cine 1	24	7,227	93	1.29%	$1,393	$14.98
IMAX	3	1,335	17	1.27%	$255	$15.00
Total	97	27,589	150	0.54%	$2,103	$14.02

 

First off, this isn't full chain but data of just 15 those theaters which did majority of bizz and were doing well in pre-sales for Shang Chi. There are some 10 other theaters, which hardly sell anything till final day and our P.I.T.A. to track and watch 0 seat sold. Of the total $6,716 first day sales for Shang Chi, $6,204 was in these 15 theaters.

 

Comps

33.8% of Shang Chi first day - $2.98M

35% of The Suicide Squad T-7 Days - $1.44M

 

Comps don't really matter at this point especially the joke TSS one. Weak start to sales, let's see if it pick up.

 

Venom 2 Harkins T-17 Days

Format	Shows	Capacity	Sold	% Sold	Gross	ATP
Normal	84	22,545	137	0.61%	$1,596	$11.65
Cine 1	24	7,227	234	3.24%	$3,493	$14.93
IMAX	3	1,335	37	2.77%	$555	$15.00
Total	111	31,107	408	1.31%	$5,644	$13.83

 

Comps

90.9% of Shang Chi T-17 Days (First day of sales) - $8M

23.8% of Black Widow T-18 Days - $3.32M

40% of Shang Chi first 5 days of sales - $3.52M

 

Slight improvement in Shang Chi X days of sales comp, but still not enough. Need a good bump. I will probably do next check in 7 days as its selling very slow.

 

California Sales:

Edited September 14, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[Legion Again]

I was briefly impressed with that 8M number until I realized what it was 😂

 

[TwoMisfits]

6 hours ago, Legion of the Ten Crores said:

So… anybody know the record for one movie’s share of a monthly gross? 

Gotta be Tenet last year, right?

Isn't that close to 47-48% of September 2020 grosses?

 

EDIT TO ADD: How did I forget TFA when I was talking about it last night?:)  And TA even better - dang!

Edited September 14, 2021 by TwoMisfits

[katnisscinnaplex]

On 9/13/2021 at 9:38 AM, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-17	Venom 2	Jacksonville	5	51	8,576	106	41*	1.24%
		Phoenix	6	46	8,738	143	60*	1.64%
		Raleigh	7	32	4,286	104	30*	2.43%
	Venom 2 Total		18	129	21,600	353	131*	1.63%
T-3	Copshop	Jacksonville	5	9	862	2	2	0.23%
		Phoenix	4	8	864	1	1	0.12%
		Raleigh	7	14	1,462	1	1	0.07%
	Copshop Total		16	31	3,188	4	4	0.13%
T-4	Cry Macho	Jacksonville	5	17	2,121	3	3	0.14%
		Phoenix	3	8	1,070	4	4	0.37%
		Raleigh	8	27	3,521	24	24	0.68%
	Cry Macho Total		16	52	6,712	31	31	0.46%

 

 

A few things to unpack here.  First, I don't know what Copshop is, but it seems like everyone else might be in the same boat.  For a few T-3 comps in that range we have Queenpins (6), Joe Bell (6) and House Next Door (5).  Cry Macho is faring a little better, at least in Raleigh.  T-4 comps could be Reminiscence (24), Protege (29), and Stillwater (21).

 

Venom 2 sales look alright, I suppose.  New sales are new since T-21 (four days of sales).  

 

Venom comps

TSS - 1.626x (6.67m)

F9 - .8x (5.68m)

 

Average - 6.18m

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-16	Venom 2	Jacksonville	5	49	8,348	109	3	1.31%
		Phoenix	6	46	8,738	165	22	1.89%
		Raleigh	7	32	4,286	107	3	2.50%
	Venom 2 Total		18	127	21,372	381	28	1.78%
T-2	Copshop	Jacksonville	5	9	862	5	3	0.58%
		Phoenix	4	15	1,333	3	2	0.23%
		Raleigh	7	14	1,462	3	2	0.21%
	Copshop Total		16	38	3,657	11	7	0.30%
T-3	Cry Macho	Jacksonville	5	17	2,121	4	1	0.19%
		Phoenix	3	8	1,070	8	4	0.75%
		Raleigh	8	32	3,843	32	8	0.83%
	Cry Macho Total		16	57	7,034	44	13	0.63%

 

Copshop had easily its best day so far.  It's now ahead of Joe Bell (9) and House Next Door (7) but still terrible.  Cry Macho is at least a little interesting now.  Protege (33), Reminiscence (37) seem to be the best comps, but the Raleigh performance makes me wonder if it's overperforming there or underperforming in the other two cities.  Snake Eyes, Respect and Paw Patrol are others that skewed heavy in Raleigh for whatever that's worth. 

 

Venom comps

TSS - 1.635x (6.7m)

F9 - .755x (5.37m)

 

Average - 6.04m

[DAJK]

My theater is getting Cry Macho, Copshop, and Blue Bayou this weekend.

 

Yup, we are in the doldrums of September alright.

[TwoMisfits]

32 minutes ago, DAJK said:

My theater is getting Cry Macho, Copshop, and Blue Bayou this weekend.

 

Yup, we are in the doldrums of September alright.

 

Mine have more doldrums...one is passing on Blue Bayou and booking Cry Macho, Copshop, The Eyes of Tammy Faye, and a foreign film (Gully Rowdy), while the other hasn't yet decided (but does have Cry Macho in presales)...

[el sid]

Copshop counted today at 11am EST for Thursday:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 9 (3 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 3 (2 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 1 (2 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 0 (1 showtime)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 2 (2 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 4 (2 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 10 (3 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 29.

Comps: Angel has Fallen had on Tuesday for Thursday 276 sold tickets in 7 theaters.
21 Bridges had on Tuesday for Thursday 183 sold tickets.

 

Copshop counted today at 11am EST for Friday:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 9 (4 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 1 (3 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 0 (3 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 2 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 0 (2 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 2 (2 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 6 (3 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 20.

Comps: Angel has Fallen had on Tuesday 159 sold tickets for Friday in 6 theaters (still without NY)

and 21 Bridges had on Tuesday for Friday 193 sold tickets.
At least I saw that it gets quite good reviews so far (70% and 5.8/10 at RT) and maybe it's just a walk-up film (if anybody knows that it's released).

 

Cry Macho counted today at 11am EST for Friday:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 8 (4 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 1 (2 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 4 (3 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 0 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 2 (2 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 8 (2 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 7 (2 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 30.

Comps: Those Who Wish Me Dead (2.8M OW) had on Tuesday 72 sold tickets in 4 theaters (so vs 25 sold tickets for Cry Macho),
The Good Liar (5.6M) had on Wednesday for Friday 70 sold tickets in 6 theaters,
Stillwater (5.2M) had also on Wednesday for Friday 41 sold tickets in 6 theaters

and Richard Jewell (4.7M) had again on Wednesday for Friday 149 sold tickets in 5 theaters.
So Cry Macho will at least be on par with Stillwater tomorrow (but of course that wasn't a HBO Max day and date release).

[DAJK]

1 hour ago, TwoMisfits said:

 

Mine have more doldrums...one is passing on Blue Bayou and booking Cry Macho, Copshop, The Eyes of Tammy Faye, and a foreign film (Gully Rowdy), while the other hasn't yet decided (but does have Cry Macho in presales)...

I wish we had gotten Eyes of Tammy Faye. I think it looks interesting.

[TwoMisfits]

5 minutes ago, DAJK said:

I wish we had gotten Eyes of Tammy Faye. I think it looks interesting.

 

I don't think my area has thought that yet - it hasn't presold a ticket:)...but there's some time left...

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

I'm a bit surprised Tammy Faye is not in my city. Oh well, I'll see Cry Macho instead

[Porthos]

You know, a thought just struck me.  It's a shame that Godzilla vs Kong was released in such a different environment (no Regal/Canada, social distancing requirements, day and date, massive amounts of PWPs, capacity caps) as it might be the best comp for Venom 2 in a neutral environment this year.

 

Instead of a oversized lizard and a giant monkey fighting each other you have two goofy-ass symbiotes hamming it up on the screen while duking it out. 

 

(the thought struck me about how some folks were fretting about having to dodge spoilers getting out about Venom 2 due to staggered release internationally and I immediately thought "It's two goofy-ass symbiotes  fighting — what's there to spoil?" which is more or less the exact same thing I thought about GvK and spoilers a few months ago)

 

Still, while the totals might not be comparable the overall sales pattern might be. It also was a sequel so the fan rush angle should still be somewhat baked in. 

 

Gonna be away from my spreadsheets/computer for a while, but I might take a glance at GvK's sales pattern to see if it was indeed especially backloaded or not.  Compared to say, Marvel or F9 (to take two pretty different sale patterns).

 

EDIT::::

 

As I think about this some more, the one bit caveat here is that, locally at least, GvK ran into a HUGE capacity issue on its last two days of sales.  At stop of tracking, literally 87%+ of seats allowed to be sold were in fact sold and 63%+ of all shows were sold out.  It, for all practical purposes, ran out of seats locally that folks were willing to buy.

 

Still, everything up to Monday Night (it was released on a Wednesday) seemed pretty solid comp-wise, if my vague recollections are correct.  Maybe even Tuesday for that matter.  Gonna have to keep that in mind if I do indeed check this out.

Edited September 14, 2021 by Porthos

[Shawn Robbins]

19 hours ago, DAJK said:

@Shawn any chance there will be a long range forecast coming soon?

 

19 hours ago, Legion of the Ten Crores said:

We got one just 3 days ago that went through venom, so at best you could get a NTTD update this Friday but I’d guess they’ll wait 2 weeks for HWK.
 

https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-range-box-office-forecast-venom-let-there-be-carnage/

Yep. The timing is still slightly up in the air, but I'd definitely expect slightly more regular LRFs on the site for at the least next month or so.

[WrathOfHan]

Damn, Eyes of Tammy Faye is getting two screens at Disney Springs this week including one of their largest auditoriums. Cry Macho only has a single screen on the lower end of standard capacity.

 

Dear Evan Hansen also isn't confirmed for Dolby yet here. Shang-Chi will probably end up keeping Dolby at some locations next week if tracking stays low for DEH

Edited September 14, 2021 by WrathOfHan

[CJohn]

DISASTER. I will probably catch Cry Macho sometime over the weekend.

[Inceptionzq]

23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Venom 2 Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

74

2151

3.44%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

68

2533

2.68%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
345	37	22577	1.53%	15	119

 

AMCs sold	259
Cinemarks sold	57
Regals sold	22
Harkins	7

 

Black Widow comp: 3.14M

Suicide Squad comp: 5.94M

Fast 9 comp: 6.57M

Venom 2 Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

80

2151

3.72%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

73

2533

2.88%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
384	39	22577	1.70%	15	119

 

AMCs sold	272
Cinemarks sold	62
Regals sold	36
Harkins	14

 

Black Widow comp: 3.38M

Suicide Squad comp: 6.45M

Fast 9 comp: 6.72M

[Inceptionzq]

23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Venom 2 Megaplex

 

T-17 days Thursday: 241(+33)/19826 in 15 theaters

 

Black Widow comp: 1.74M

 

T-18 days Friday: 218(+17)/34273 in 15 theaters

 

Black Widow comp: 5.33M

Venom 2 Megaplex

 

T-16 days Thursday: 255(+14)/19826 in 15 theaters

 

Black Widow comp: 1.79M

 

T-17 days Friday: 229(+11)/34273 in 15 theaters

 

Black Widow comp: 5.41M

[TalismanRing]

On 9/12/2021 at 6:03 PM, TalismanRing said:

NYC Local  Regal

(9.12.21) (6pm) (Day 5)

 

V2: 25/2766

SC: 57/1402

 

Comp = $3.86m

 

NYC Regal

(9.14.21 - 4pm - Day 7) 

 

V2:  30/2766

SC:  78/1402

 

Comp = $3.38m

 

Notes: 

 

SC wildly over performed at my theater.  I found my BW numbers for the last Thur and SC sold 13 more tickets yet did only 58.6% of previews.  SC's pre-sale % was more in line with Joker which also had very heavy pre-sales.

 

TSS - at this point, 2 weeks out TSS sold 6 tickets so I'm not even bothering with comps for that yet

 

 

 

[Legion Again]

2 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

TSS - at this point, 2 weeks out TSS sold 6 tickets so I'm not even bothering with comps for that yet

20.5M locked and loaded, per @TalismanRing