The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[XXR vs XXR]

28 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Thinking $18-20M for SC.

That's a lot for a non-holiday Wednesday in the 2nd week, but you're the Asgard.

 

[Eric Atreides]

23 hours ago, Eric and the Ten Rings said:

Copshop Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-2 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	32	14	4436	0.32%

 

Total Showings Added Today: 12

Total Seats Added Today: 1,439

Total Seats Sold Today: 8

Copshop Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	31	17	4277	0.40%

 

Total Showings Lost Today: 1

Total Seats Removed Today: 159

Total Seats Sold Today: 3

 

I wasted my time on this, didn't I?

[Eric Atreides]

23 hours ago, Eric and the Ten Rings said:

Cry Macho Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	58	12	8120	0.17%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 25

Total Seats Added Today: 3,527

Total Seats Sold Today: 4

Cry Macho Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-2 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	58	20	8120	0.25%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 8

[Eric Atreides]

23 hours ago, Eric and the Ten Rings said:

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-16 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	89	487	19404	2.51%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 48

 

Comp

0.733x of F9 T-16 (5.21M)

0.283x of Black Widow T-16 (3.74M)

2.072x of The Suicide Squad T-16 (8.5M)

0.690x of Shang-Chi T-16 (6.07M)

 

Those fan screenings in the UK paid off I suppose

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-15 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	89	552	19404	2.84%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 65

 

Comp

0.786x of F9 T-15 (5.58M)

0.312x of Black Widow T-15 (4.12M)

2.217x of The Suicide Squad T-15 (9.09M)

0.666x of Shang-Chi T-15 (5.86M)

 

I haven't paid attention to what other markets are up to, but this is really picking up steam after some quiet first few days. I guess all those release date change really were a hindrance.

[Rorschach]

Copshop (Wednesday Night Outlook)

Cinemark Davenport 18 + IMAX

Thursday:

5:00 P.M.: 1/94

7:50 P.M.: 0/94

Total Sold: 1/188 (0.53% sold)

Friday: 

11:00 A.M.: 0/94

1:50 P.M.: 2/94

4:40 P.M.: 0/94

7:30 P.M.: 4/94

10:20 P.M.: 0/94

Total Sold: 6/470 (1.28% sold)

 

Thurs. + Fri: 7/658 (1.06% sold)

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Cry Macho (Wednesday Night Outlook)

Cinemark Davenport 18 + IMAX

Friday:

10:00 A.M.: 0/67

10:55 A.M.: 4/141

1:45 P.M.: 0/141

4:30 P.M.: 7/141

5:15 P.M.: 0/67

7:15 P.M.: 0/141

8:10 P.M.: 0/67

10:00 P.M.: 0/141

Total Sold: 11/906 (1.21% sold)

 

Comps:

Stillwater: $0.703 mil

The Protege: $1.14 mil

Reminiscence: $0.928 mil

Malignant: $2.2 mil

Average: $1.24 mil

Edited September 16, 2021 by Rorschach

[Pinacolada]

11 minutes ago, Eric and the Ten Rings said:

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-15 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	89	552	19404	2.84%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 65

 

Comp

0.786x of F9 T-15 (5.58M)

0.312x of Black Widow T-15 (4.12M)

2.217x of The Suicide Squad T-15 (9.09M)

0.666x of Shang-Chi T-15 (5.86M)

 

I haven't paid attention to what other markets are up to, but this is really picking up steam after some quiet first few days. I guess all those release date change really were a hindrance.

Yeah that fan screening seems like it was a really smart move. I think it's the best marketing they've done for this film

[filmlover]

5 hours ago, WrathOfHan said:

Variety projections: https://variety.com/2021/film/news/cry-macho-box-office-shang-chi-1235065613/

 

Shang-Chi: 17M (-50%)

Cry Macho: 5-7M

Copshop: 5M

How the hell is Cry Macho getting nearly 4,000 theaters with such little marketing effort unless that's a typo? I know theaters are still desperate to fill their screens with content since we're still not back to pre-COVID stable marketplace levels yet but...

[Porthos]

On 9/14/2021 at 11:10 PM, Porthos said:

 

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-16 Days and Counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	153	25059	25793	734	2.85%

 

Total Showings Added Today	3
Total Seats Added Today	552
Total Seats Sold Today	59

 

T-16 Comp           VERY LOL-TASTIC FOR SOME - USE AT OWN RISK

	%		Sold T-17	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
F9	88.75		49	827		0/91	13323/14150	5.84%		6.60m
TSS	240.66		25	305		0/81	13647/13952	2.19%		10.11m
SC	101.10		172	726		0/99	15764/16490	4.40%		8.90m

PRE-SALE NOTE:  Venom 2's tickets have been on sale for five days more than Shang-Chi while F9 was on sale for one more day than Venom 2. 

COMP NOTE: The F9 Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955). Neither the TSS nor the SC Comp have been adjusted.

 

T-16 Adjusted Comp            FAIRLY LOL-TASTIC - USE AT OWN RISK

	%		Sold T-17	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
BW	31.46		84	2273		0/117	16861/19134	11.88%		4.35m
V2 (adj)	---		59	715		0/139	22918/23633	3.03%		---

PRE-SALE NOTE:  Black Widow's tickets have been on sale for five days more than Venom 2.

COMP NOTE: The BW Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: V2 (adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters that had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in BW's track.

 

Regal: 170/7375 [2.31% sold] [+13 tickets]

 

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-15 Days and Counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	153	25000	25793	793	3.07%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

59

 

T-15 Comp           VERY LOL-TASTIC FOR SOME - USE AT OWN RISK

	%		Sold T-15	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
F9	88.31		71	898		0/91	13252/14150	6.35%		6.57m
TSS	250.16		12	317		0/81	13635/13952	2.27%		10.51m
SC	93.74		120	846		0/101	16156/17002	4.98%		8.25m

PRE-SALE NOTE:  Venom 2's tickets have been on sale for five days more than Shang-Chi while F9 was on sale for one more day than Venom 2. 

COMP NOTE: The F9 Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955). Neither the TSS nor the SC Comp have been adjusted.

 

T-15 Adjusted Comp            FAIRLY LOL-TASTIC - USE AT OWN RISK

	%		Sold T-15	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
BW	32.13		108	2381		0/117	16753/19134	12.44%		4.44m
V2 (adj)	---		50	765		0/139	22868/23633	3.24%		---

PRE-SALE NOTE:  Black Widow's tickets have been on sale for five days more than Venom 2.

COMP NOTE: The BW Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: V2 (adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters that had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in BW's track.

 

Regal: 176/7375 [2.39% sold] [+6 tickets]

 

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EDIT::::::

 

This was my 25,000th post.  Neat.  Appropriate that it was a tracking report. 👍

 

(only thing that could have been more "on brand" is if it would have been a SW post )

Edited September 16, 2021 by Porthos

[Legion Again]

This is around when SC started to take off iirc, interesting to see whether Venom can stay steady.

 

I don’t see any matinee pricing for Venom locally, is that something Sony asks theaters not to do for previews?

[Porthos]

14 minutes ago, Legion of the Ten Crores said:

This is around when SC started to take off iirc

 

This was Shang-Chi's third day of sales, so we're still in the initial buy stage.

 

As for matinees locally, after a quick check five of the seventeen theaters which theoretically could offer matinees are offering them, with the other twelve having standard pricing for all showings.

 

That's a quick check though and it could be off.  So either highly discouraged or a few theaters didn't get the memo not to charge matinee pricing.

 

(could also be incentives/differing sharing splits at play if there was matinee pricing or not)

 

Edited September 16, 2021 by Porthos

[Legion Again]

So the ATP gap vs F9 and SC might not be the 10% that BW had. Maybe more like a percent or two. That does make these numbers look better — won’t help the Fri/Th multi though.

Edited September 16, 2021 by Legion of the Ten Crores

[charlie Jatinder]

3 hours ago, Porthos said:

only thing that could have been more "on brand" is if it would have been a SW post

Could have done T-n days, 0 seats left post for next Star Wars. 

[Legion Again]

46 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Could have done T-n days, 0 seats left post for next Star Wars. 

Wow, wasn’t expecting Rogue Squadron to 100% sellout on T-0, let alone on T-827

[charlie Jatinder]

3 hours ago, Legion of the Ten Crores said:

So the ATP gap vs F9 and SC might not be the 10% that BW had. Maybe more like a percent or two. That does make these numbers look better — won’t help the Fri/Th multi though.

Last I checked Harkins had regular Matinee rates.

[Legion Again]

9 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Last I checked Harkins had regular Matinee rates.

So national ATP is gonna be a little dicey perhaps. When we get ATP from the next keyser update that will be pretty useful though given the wide coverage.

[charlie Jatinder]

1 minute ago, Legion of the Ten Crores said:

So national ATP is gonna be a little dicey perhaps. When we get ATP from the next keyser update that will be pretty useful though given the wide coverage.

Sony effed FFH OD and probably took away $5M+ off it with the discounted Tuesday OD, may be they learnt the lesson?

[katnisscinnaplex]

On 9/14/2021 at 10:57 AM, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-16	Venom 2	Jacksonville	5	49	8,348	109	3	1.31%
		Phoenix	6	46	8,738	165	22	1.89%
		Raleigh	7	32	4,286	107	3	2.50%
	Venom 2 Total		18	127	21,372	381	28	1.78%
T-2	Copshop	Jacksonville	5	9	862	5	3	0.58%
		Phoenix	4	15	1,333	3	2	0.23%
		Raleigh	7	14	1,462	3	2	0.21%
	Copshop Total		16	38	3,657	11	7	0.30%
T-3	Cry Macho	Jacksonville	5	17	2,121	4	1	0.19%
		Phoenix	3	8	1,070	8	4	0.75%
		Raleigh	8	32	3,843	32	8	0.83%
	Cry Macho Total		16	57	7,034	44	13	0.63%

 

Copshop had easily its best day so far.  It's now ahead of Joe Bell (9) and House Next Door (7) but still terrible.  Cry Macho is at least a little interesting now.  Protege (33), Reminiscence (37) seem to be the best comps, but the Raleigh performance makes me wonder if it's overperforming there or underperforming in the other two cities.  Snake Eyes, Respect and Paw Patrol are others that skewed heavy in Raleigh for whatever that's worth. 

 

Venom comps

TSS - 1.635x (6.7m)

F9 - .755x (5.37m)

 

Average - 6.04m

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales*	% Sold
T-0	Copshop	Jacksonville	5	9	862	9	4	1.04%
		Phoenix	6	18	1,739	18	15	1.04%
		Raleigh	7	14	1,462	5	2	0.34%
	Copshop Total		18	41	4,063	32	21	0.79%
T-1	Cry Macho	Jacksonville	5	29	3,537	32	28	0.90%
		Phoenix	7	38	4,282	77	69	1.80%
		Raleigh	8	44	5,352	76	44	1.42%
	Cry Macho Total		20	111	13,171	185	141	1.40%
T-14	Venom 2	Jacksonville	5	49	8,348	134	25	1.61%
		Phoenix	6	46	8,738	198	33	2.27%
		Raleigh	7	32	4,286	130	23	3.03%
	Venom 2 Total		18	127	21,372	462	81	2.16%

*New sales since Tuesday morning

 

Copshop is 14 tickets behind Queenpins, which didn't even report.  Don't think I need more analysis than that.

 

Cry Macho really picked up since Tuesday; maybe there is some hope for it.

 

Cry Macho T-1 comps

Malignant - 1.057x (2.1m)

Reminiscence - 2.53x (1.72m)

Hitman's Wife 2 - 1.9x (1.55m)

Stillwater - 3.93x (1.1m)

 

Average - 1.62m

 

Venom 2 had a good couple of days as well.  

 

Venom 2 T-14 comps

TSS - 1.87x (7.67m)

F9 - .81x (5.75m)

SC - .73x (6.39m)

 

Average - 6.6m

[Old Crow]

2 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Copshop is 14 tickets behind Queenpins, which didn't even report.  Don't think I need more analysis than that.

 

Dayum CopShop ..   talk about Defunding the Police !  😁

 

[katnisscinnaplex]

Brand new theater in Jacksonville... I'm sure that won't affect my numbers at all.

 

https://www.boxofficepro.com/cinemark-jacksonville-movie-theater-opening/

[Porthos]

15 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Brand new theater in Jacksonville... I'm sure that won't affect my numbers at all.

 

https://www.boxofficepro.com/cinemark-jacksonville-movie-theater-opening/

 

 

Ah, the joys of deciding what to do to comps when a brand new, likely-to-be-strong, theater enters the equations. 👍

 

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First time that happened locally, I Initially I gave a w/ and w/out comp but eventually I decided to say "screw it" and figured that it would simulate theater growth in the domestic market at large.  

 

Is something to be said for it mostly reallocating ticket sales within a region, but I do think there is an overall bump to some degree simply due to extra convenience and/or good theaters bringing in folks wavering between staying at home or going out.