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On 9/17/2021 at 11:52 PM, Lion Roar said:

NTTD starting with 6 shows at my local AMC, same as V2, 3 PLF 3 regular, but alot fewer seats. It has one less IMAX and instead has a much smaller auditorium for one 3D show 🤣 It's doing much better than V2 though despite having 400+ less seats.

 

NTTD has sold 127 out of 1118 seats: 5 3D, 95 IMAX, 27 2D. 

 

Comp: 2.49x Venom 2 after first day of presales

           1.33x Venom 2 total sales T-13

 

I have no idea why NTTD is doing so much better than V2 at my theater, but it has quite a few large groups, while V2 is mostly singletons and duos. V2 is still moving very slowly here, sold 4 tickets in the last 24 hours. 

NTTD T-11 update:

 

Wednesday Sneak Peak: 119 out of 338 - 35.21%

 

Thursday: 217 out of 1118 - 19.41%

 

Combining the two nights, NTTD is currently at 1.87x Venom 2 with an extra week to go. Yeah my theater is overperforming alot for some reason.    

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46 minutes ago, Menor said:

Many Saints MTC2

 

Friday:

Showtimes: 1150

Tickets Sold: 3660/121370

 

This seems under 10 million from this data but I assume other chains would be stronger, especially MTC1.

 

Addams Family MTC2

 

Thursday

Showtimes: 1008

Tickets Sold: 1759/115922

 

Friday

Showtimes: 1661

Tickets Sold: 4346/206582

 

Don't have great comps. I estimate it around 30% of JC on Thursday at the same point and 40% on the Friday, perhaps slightly higher. 15 million seems quite possible but idk how much it's overindexing in MTC2. 

 

 

 

Thanks!   
 

I won’t comment much on Newark given lack of comps, except to note that the BOP range is 7-16 to be precise and I’ve personally been feeling more like high single digits with the way max releases have gone recently+ sopranos being literally an hbo show.   
 

For Addams, it is a day and date PVOD as I understand it, but so is the JC comp. would generally expect the ratio of JC to rise. AF1 did:

1.25

8.46 (x6.8)

11.76 (+39%)

8.82 (-25%, Columbus Sun)  

 

Perhaps could see:

1 (37% JC)

5 (46.5% JC)

7

5  

 

or so.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Legion of the Ten Crores said:
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I won’t comment much on Newark given lack of comps, except to note that the BOP range is 7-16 to be precise and I’ve personally been feeling more like high single digits with the way max releases have gone recently+ sopranos being literally an hbo show.   
 

For Addams, it is a day and date PVOD as I understand it, but so is the JC comp. would generally expect the ratio of JC to rise. AF1 did:

1.25

8.46 (x6.8)

11.76 (+39%)

8.82 (-25%, Columbus Sun)  

 

Perhaps could see:

1 (37% JC)

5 (46.5% JC)

7

5  

 

or so.

 

 

As long as MTC2 isn't too big of an outlier, the Addams numbers look right. Wouldn't be surprised if the JC comp goes even higher than those as far as MTC2 ticket/ticket. My worry is MTC1 ATP, iirc JC was boosted there by a very healthy ATP despite lowish ticket numbers. I remember Paw Patrol had healthy MTC2 sales but MTC1 was awful in comparison, though I doubt this would have anywhere near as extreme a skew. 

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Venom 2 MTC2

 

Thursday:

Showtimes: 3400

Seats Sold: 36666/538853

 

I have been letting Keyser post this one (have taken a few runs just out of curiosity) but thought the pace here is worth noting. It added 7345 tickets since my run Saturday morning which is extremely impressive. For comparison, F9 added 7004 tickets between early afternoon on Friday and Sunday night (which I estimate would have been around 5700 in the comparable time with Venom 2). Considering how much F9 overperformed at MTC2 for previews, that is  really excellent. 

 

Friday:

Showtimes: 5402 

Seats Sold: 35220/856659

 

Added 7934 since Saturday morning. Pace is close to that of F9, maybe slightly below (F9 added around 9700 between Friday afternoon and Sunday night), and overall number is slightly above F9. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Lion Roar said:

T-4 update:

 

Venom has now sold 180 tickets total out of 1536 seats, 11.72%. Almost doubled in about 10 days.

- 113 out of 1044 IMAX

- 67 out of 522 regular

 

This is still behind NTTD sales at my theater even without the Wednesday sneak peak.  Not sure why this is doing so poorly in my theater compared to the national data(Or why Bond is doing so well here). I'm curious to see just much this is underperforming. 

This might be a reverse Shang-Chi where smaller areas are over-performing while some metros are under-performing. SC massively over-performed at the theater I track, and I knew to adjust that range down based on what I was seeing. However, Venom's sales make no sense to me. This theater is located in a prime area for the film's main demo, yet like your theater, Bond is outpacing it by a healthy margin. I think we're going to see meltdowns in one direction or the other come Friday :Venom: 

 

fwiw the AMC by me back home has sold about 30 seats for Thursday night, which is probably on the higher end of pandemic previews given that attendance at theaters here has been down sharply this year. It's probably around 80% of SC at this specific theater from glancing.

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23 hours ago, Dear Eric Hansen said:

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-5 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 92 1270 19613 6.48%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 153

 

Comp

0.981x of F9 T-5 (6.97M)

0.414x of Black Widow T-5 (5.47M)

2.485x of The Suicide Squad T-5 (10.19M)

0.711x of Shang-Chi T-5 (6.25M)

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-4 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 92 1427 19613 7.28%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 157

 

Comp

1.018x of F9 T-4 (7.23M)

0.425x of Black Widow T-4 (5.61M)

2.355x of The Suicide Squad T-4 (9.65M)

0.719x of Shang-Chi T-4 (6.33M)

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23 hours ago, Dear Eric Hansen said:

No Time to Die Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-12 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 68 629 14170 4.44%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 44

 

Comp

0.743x of F9 T-12 (5.28M)

0.311x of Black Widow T-12 (4.1M)

2.111x of The Suicide Squad T-12 (8.65M)
0.643x of Shang-Chi T-12 (5.66M)

No Time to Die Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-11 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 68 664 14170 4.69%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 35

 

Comp

0.767x of F9 T-11 (5.45M)

0.316x of Black Widow T-11 (4.17M)

2.221x of The Suicide Squad T-11 (9.1M)

0.628x of Shang-Chi T-11 (5.53M)

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On 9/25/2021 at 9:11 PM, keysersoze123 said:

Venom 2

Previews (T-5)

MTC1 - 44642/585394 743302.62 2898 shows 

MTC2 - 33029/542514 453462.55 3406 shows

Friday(T-6)

MTC1 - 36757/798452 604425.63 3816 shows

MTC2 - 31448/855775 401022.55 5452 shows

Venom 2
Previews(T-4)

MTC1 - 52224/585811 861517.10 2902 shows (+7582)

MTC2 - 39366/543128 537843.80 3408 shows (+6337)

 

Friday(T-5)

MTC1 - 44808/798444 729204.86 3816 shows (+8051)

MTC2 - 38237/856830 486395.84 5447 shows(+6789)

 

Really good sunday. I would say. Well set for final week push. 

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Jesus. Despite being a sequel it seems this just has a very casual audience that didn’t feel a need to presell much — or maybe the release date hijinks depressed earlier days, or it’s benefitting from delta receding. In any case, may have to join Menor’s club if tomorrow keeps it up.

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On 9/25/2021 at 11:36 PM, Porthos said:

 

No Time To Die Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-12 Days and Counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

135

20447

21259

812

3.82%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

32

 

T-12 Adjusted Comp

 

   %

 

Sold T-12

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

AQP II 

136.84

 

44

589

 

5/71

2472/3061

19.24%

 

6.88m

F9

77.47

 

38

1021

 

0/79

11394/12415

8.22%

 

5.76m

NTTD (AQP adj)

---

 

28

806

 

0/135

20303/21109

3.82%

 

---

NTTD (F9 adj)

---

 

28

791

 

0/114

17418/18209

4.34%

 

---

COMP NOTE: Both the AQP II comp and the F9 comp have been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: NTTD (AQP adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include DBOX showings which were not tracked at that time while NTTD (F9 adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps.

SELLOUT NOTE:  Locally, AQP II was still under a capacity cap, which greatly inflated the number of sellouts as well as depressing the amount of seats available.

 

Regal: 166/6648 [2.50% sold] [+7 tickets]

 

No Time To Die Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-11 Days and Counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

134

20340

21216

876

4.13%

 

Total Showings Removed Today

1

Total Seats Removed Today

43

Total Seats Sold Today

64

 

T-11 Adjusted Comp

 

   %

 

Sold T-11

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

AQP II 

139.65

 

34

623

 

4/71

2438/3061

20.35%

 

7.02m

F9

78.61

 

59

1080

 

0/79

11335/12415

8.70%

 

5.84m

NTTD (AQP adj)

---

 

64

870

 

0/134

20196/21066

4.13%

 

---

NTTD (F9 adj)

---

 

58

849

 

0/113

17317/18166

4.67%

 

---

COMP NOTE: Both the AQP II comp and the F9 comp have been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: NTTD (AQP adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include DBOX showings which were not tracked at that time while NTTD (F9 adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps.

SELLOUT NOTE:  Locally, AQP II was still under a capacity cap, which greatly inflated the number of sellouts as well as depressing the amount of seats available.

 

Regal: 176/6648 [2.65% sold] [+10 tickets]

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On 9/25/2021 at 11:37 PM, Porthos said:

 

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-5 Days and Counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

173

26190

28198

2008

7.12%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

183

 

T-5 Comp         

 

   %

 

Sold T-5

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

BW

49.34

 

250

4070

 

0/178

21664/25734

15.82%

 

6.82m

SC

93.61

 

183

2145

 

0/113

15466/17611

12.18%

 

8.24m

COMP NOTE:  Both the BW and the F9 comps has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

 

T-5 Adjusted Comp 

 

   %

 

Sold T-5

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

F9

116.00

 

113

1606

 

0/89

11878/13484

11.91%

 

8.62m

V2 (F9 adj)

---

 

163

1863

 

0/158

23958/25821

7.22%

 

---

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: V2 (F9 adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters that had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in F9's track.

 

Regal: 380/9342 [4.07% sold] [+55 tickets]

 

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-4 Days and Counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

183

26301

28762

2461

8.56%

 

Total Showings Added Today

10

Total Seats Added Today

564

Total Seats Sold Today

453

 

T-4 Comp         

 

   %

 

Sold T-4

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

BW

53.21

 

305

4625

 

0/193

2268827313

16.93%

 

7.35m

SC

102.29

 

261

2406

 

0/113

15205/17611

13.66%

 

9.00m

COMP NOTE:  Both the BW and the F9 comps has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

 

T-4 Adjusted Comp 

 

   %

 

Sold T-4

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

F9

126.36

 

200

1806

 

0/89

11678/13484

13.39%

 

9.39m

V2 (F9 adj)

---

 

419

2282

 

0/168

24103/26385

8.65%

 

---

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: V2 (F9 adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters that had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in F9's track.

 

Regal: 470/9342 [5.03% sold] [+90 tickets]

 

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Great googly moogly!!!! :o :o :o 

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1 hour ago, Legion of the Ten Crores said:

Jesus. Despite being a sequel it seems this just has a very casual audience that didn’t feel a need to presell much — or maybe the release date hijinks depressed earlier days, or it’s benefitting from delta receding. In any case, may have to join Menor’s club if tomorrow keeps it up.

 

Actually rechecked a couple of high selling Sacto theaters to make sure I didn't have errors in my sheets tonight. :ph34r:

 

...

 

They were fine. :lol: 

 

...

 

Might still do a full audit in an hour or so when I get back to my computer, just to make sure, mind. :ph34r:

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1 hour ago, Porthos said:

 

Actually rechecked a couple of high selling Sacto theaters to make sure I didn't have errors in my sheets tonight. :ph34r:

 

...

 

They were fine. :lol: 

 

...

 

Might still do a full audit in an hour or so when I get back to my computer, just to make sure, mind. :ph34r:

 

Annnnd, full audit done. 👍 Negligible differences from initial count.

 

A total of 5 fewer seats sold between two showings (-1 and -4 ftr) with a total of 7 more seats sold at two other showings (+2 and +5 also ftr).  Normal amount of shifting for 90 minutes in the middle of the night this close to release, IMO.

 

Looks like Sacto really did go bananas for Venom 2 on Sunday. 

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