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22 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day Movie Area Theaters Shows Total Seats Total Sold New Sales* % Sold
T-10 No Time to Die (Wed) Jacksonville 3 3 1,046 48 10 4.59%
    Phoenix 1 1 410 7 3 1.71%
    Raleigh 1 1 151 67 4 44.37%
  No Time to Die (Wed) Total   5 5 1,607 122 17 7.59%
T-11 No Time to Die Jacksonville 7 59 10,119 163 13 1.61%
    Phoenix 6 31 5,132 125 14 2.44%
    Raleigh 7 30 3,725 182 18 4.89%
  No Time to Die Total   20 120 18,976 470 45 2.48%
T-4 Venom 2 Jacksonville 6 69 10,781 399 89 3.70%
    Phoenix 6 57 9,649 548 157 5.68%
    Raleigh 7 41 5,139 366 107 7.12%
  Venom 2 Total   19 167 25,569 1,313 353 5.14%

*New sales are since Friday morning

 

Venom comps

TSS - 2.56x (10.49m)

F9 - 1.058x (7.51m)

SC - .84x (7.39m)

Average - 8.47m

 

No Time to Die comps

F9 - .631x (4.48m)

TSS - 1.6x (6.55m)

Average - 5.52m

Average incl Wed - 6.95m

Day Movie Area Theaters Shows Total Seats Total Sold New Sales % Sold
T-10 No Time to Die Jacksonville 7 59 10,119 162 -1 1.60%
    Phoenix 6 31 5,132 124 -1 2.42%
    Raleigh 7 30 3,725 201 19 5.40%
  No Time to Die Total   20 120 18,976 487 17 2.57%
T-3 Addams Family 2 Jacksonville 6 18 3,102 15 15 0.48%
    Phoenix 5 11 1,850 15 15 0.81%
    Raleigh 7 19 1,681 9 9 0.54%
  Addams Family 2 Total   18 48 6,633 39 39 0.59%
  Venom 2 Jacksonville 6 69 10,781 497 98 4.61%
    Phoenix 6 57 9,649 641 93 6.64%
    Raleigh 7 41 5,139 458 92 8.91%
  Venom 2 Total   19 167 25,569 1,596 283 6.24%
T-4 Many Saints Jacksonville 7 28 3,375 60 60 1.78%
    Phoenix 6 16 2,098 64 64 3.05%
    Raleigh 6 23 2,949 73 73 2.48%
  Many Saints Total   19 67 8,422 197 197 2.34%
T-9 No Time to Die (Wed) Jacksonville 3 3 1,046 54 6 5.16%
    Phoenix 1 1 410 8 1 1.95%
    Raleigh 1 1 151 77 10 50.99%
  No Time to Die (Wed) Total   5 5 1,607 139 17 8.65%

 

Added the other new releases for this week.  

 

Addams Family 2 T-3 comps

Boss Baby 2 - .39x (511k)

Peter Rabbit 2 - .45x (403k)

 

Many Saints T-4 comps (Friday)

Cry Macho - 6.35x (10.17m)

Candyman - 1.55x (4.65m)

 

Venom 2 T-3 comps

TSS - 2.59x (10.61m)

F9 - 1.1x (7.826m)

SC - .88x (7.73m)

 

Average - 8.72m

 

No Time to Die T-10 comps

F9 - .6x (4.28m)

TSS - 1.61x (6.61m)

 

Average - 5.45m

Average incl Wed - 7m

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2 hours ago, Cmasterclay said:

Venom 2 not having the first day fan rush of an MCU/DCU movie was extremely predictable and was noted by many in this topic! It was clearly going to be more like an F9 performer. 

 

I mean, sure, it's been something I've been noting all week.  But Venom 2 locally doing 73% more than Shang-Chi did on it's Sunday of release week made me want to pull a Cyber Ninja on my own data just because of it being that backloaded. :lol: 

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No joke: Venom 2 is selling better here in the three South Florida theaters I track than any movie since the restart, including F9 which usually does better than any franchise here. It might not be the hottest ticket in the traditional NY/LA markets, but in the more mid-tier markets it is cleaning up.

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17 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

No joke: Venom 2 is selling better here in the three South Florida theaters I track than any movie since the restart, including F9 which usually does better than any franchise here. It might not be the hottest ticket in the traditional NY/LA markets, but in the more mid-tier markets it is cleaning up.

 

I think it's cleaning up in more diverse markets - the 1st one cleaned up in the non-Caucasian market.  Coupled with also cleaning up in the under 50 market and under 25 markets (and skewing male), and it's hitting the current active movie goer market squarely.  I said Venom 1's demo was very close to FF9's demo, so Venom 2 should clean up in a similar way...

 

 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/venom-a-dramatically-diverse-audience-makes-a-record-october-opening-1150068/

 

It's why I'm a broken record on Venom 2 OW over Bond OW for over a month:)...Bond hits a lot of the "not going" market - Venom doesn't...we'll see if Bond can break the "non goers" out of their rut...

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6 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

 

I think it's cleaning up in more diverse markets - the 1st one cleaned up in the non-Caucasian market.  Coupled with also cleaning up in the under 50 market and under 25 markets (and skewing male), and it's hitting the current active movie goer market squarely.  I said Venom 1's demo was very close to FF9's demo, so Venom 2 should clean up in a similar way...

 

 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/venom-a-dramatically-diverse-audience-makes-a-record-october-opening-1150068/

 

It's why I'm a broken record on Venom 2 OW over Bond OW for over a month:)...Bond hits a lot of the "not going" market - Venom doesn't...we'll see if Bond can break the "non goers" out of their rut...

I didn't realize Venom's audience was so diverse! But that makes it make total sense with the audience here in South Florida and why Fast series does so well.

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As I kept saying for a while dont compare MCU movies with everything. I see same issue for Bond. Comparing it to SC or BW is ridiculous. Real action will happen only in the final week and its Previews to OW multi will be better than SH movies. I am expecting both Venom 2 and Bond to have strong OW. 

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6 hours ago, Cmasterclay said:

Venom 2 not having the first day fan rush of an MCU/DCU movie was extremely predictable and was noted by many in this topic! It was clearly going to be more like an F9 performer. 

Very shallow take when:

nobody was using the BW comps

TSS comps pointed to a much higher number than F9 comps, because tss was much more backloaded than F9

SC comps pointed to a pretty similar number as SC comps, because the MCU SC had a pretty similarly shaped PS run as an “F9 performer”

V2 is not acting like an F9, but gaining on it substantially   

 

There’s no need to try to make this seem obvious or inevitable post hoc, because it wasn’t. Sometimes we get genuine surprises, otherwise this whole enterprise would be rather dull.

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45 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

If Venom 2 became a breakout, then TSS is really a bomb in every way since both coming off from the critically panned predecessor. 

There are multiple factors in plays.  Retarded decision on part of AT&T to blindly put everything on free in HBO Max irrespective of theater status. 2nd is this is not a sequel but a "soft reboot". Previous movie did have Will Smith. I dont think any of the actors in this movie had the star power. Plus trailers for previous movie had Batman, Joker etc. Did this movie had any of the big names in DCEU to evoke interest?

 

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NYC Local Mon   Tues   Wed   Thur   Previews Start
Bond (-1 week) 23/1154 (5:45pm)               6:00 PM
Venom 2 (-1 week) 67/2766 (8pm) 73/2766 (8pm) 80/2766 (6pm) 88/2766 (9pm)   4:00 PM
Venom 2 131/2766 (5:45pm)               4:00 PM
Shang-Chi (-1 week) 78/1402 (4pm) 112/1402 (8pm) 116/1402 (6pm) 125/1402 (6:45pm)   6:00 PM
Shang-Chi 190/1402 (5pm) 234/1402 (5pm) 331/1402 (5pm) 511/1402 (5pm) $8.8m 6:00 PM
Joker (-1 week) 104/2766 (9am) 172/2766 (4:30pm)     217/3536 (4pm)   4:00 PM
Joker 328/3536 (4:20pm) 399/3536 (4pm) 542/3536 (4pm) 760/3741 (3:45pm) $13.3m 4:00 PM
Shazam!         129/2229 (Afternoon) 187/2229 (3:30pm) $5.9m 4:00 PM
X-Men: DP     103/942 (4pm) 209/942 (3:15pm) 272/942 (3:45pm) $5m 6:00 PM
Hobbs & Shaw 60/1543 (5:20pm)     181/1543 (4pm)     $5.8m 7:00 PM
Birds Of Prey 71/1844 (5pm) 84/1844 (7:30pm) 106/1844 (7:45pm) 166/1844 (5pm) $4m 6:00 PM
Black Widow 239/3584 (5pm)     326/3584 (5pm) 498/3584 (4pm) $13.2m 5:00 PM
The Suicide Squad 52/1242 (6pm) 58/1242 (6pm) 79/1242 (6pm) 153/1242 (6:15pm) $4.2m 7:00 PM

 

 

Venom 2 COMPS:

 

SC:  $6.07m

BW:  $7.23m

Joker:  $5.31m

H&S: $12.66m

BOP: $7.38m

TSS:  $10.58m

IT 2: $9.35m

Zombieland 2: $7.32m
 

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On 9/24/2021 at 4:00 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Venom 2 Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total 212 2151 9.86%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 148 2637 5.61%

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
997 91 25495 3.91% 15 137

 

AMCs sold 648
Cinemarks sold 184
Regals sold 89
Harkins sold 76

 

Shang-Chi comp: 6.56M

Black Widow comp: 5.31M

Venom 2 Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total 332 2151 15.43%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 196 2637 7.43%

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST 3 DAYS TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
1521 524 25599 5.94% 15 139

 

Showings added: 2

Seats added: 104

 

AMCs sold 943
Cinemarks sold 292
Regals sold 158
Harkins sold 128

 

Shang-Chi comp: 7.48M

Black Widow comp: 6.44M

 

Shang-Chi's sales the past 3 days at this point were 452, so a good amount ahead for Venom

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On 9/24/2021 at 4:14 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Venom 2 Megaplex

 

T-6 days Thursday: 660(+43)/22088 in 15 theaters

 

Shang-Chi comp: 4.49M

Black Widow comp: 2.88M

 

T-7 days Friday: 623(+63)/36526 in 15 theaters

 

Shang-Chi comp: 13.85M

Black Widow comp: 6.95M

Venom 2 Megaplex

 

T-3 days Thursday: 1049(+389)/22088 in 15 theaters

 

Shang-Chi comp: 5.12M

Black Widow comp: 3.66M

 

T-4 days Friday: 1053(+450)/47808 in 15 theaters

 

Shang-Chi comp: 15.05M

Black Widow comp: 8.42M

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On 9/24/2021 at 4:32 PM, Inceptionzq said:

No Time to Die Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total 96 1690 5.68%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 125 1610 7.76%

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
435 30 16853 2.58% 15 97

 

AMCs sold 333
Cinemarks sold 26
Regals sold 75
Harkins 1

 

Wednesday:

Total 39 1429

 

Suicide Squad comp: 6.28M

Fast 9 comp: 5.97M

No Time to Die Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total 103 1690 6.09%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 128 1610 7.95%

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST 3 DAYS TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
508 73 16853 3.01% 15 97

 

AMCs sold 380
Cinemarks sold 34
Regals sold 90
Harkins 4

 

Wednesday:

Total 91 1429

 

Suicide Squad comp: 6.59M

Fast 9 comp: 5.96M

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On 9/24/2021 at 4:46 PM, Inceptionzq said:

No Time to Die Megaplex

 

T-12 days Wednesday: 197(+15)/1603 in 3 theaters

 

T-13 days Thursday: 533(+23)/18906 in 14 theaters

 

Shang-Chi comp: 6.74M

 

T-14 days Friday: 797(+35)/36788 in 15 theaters

 

Shang-Chi comp: 34.59M

 

No Black Widow comp

No Time to Die Megaplex

 

T-9 days Wednesday: 255(+58)/2115(+512) in 4 theaters

 

T-10 days Thursday: 619(+86)/20170(+1264) in 14 theaters

 

Shang-Chi comp: 6.14M

Black Widow comp: 3.49M

 

T-11 days Friday: 999(+202)/36788 in 15 theaters

 

Shang-Chi comp: 34.70M

Black Widow comp: 16.16M

 

Doing extremely well here. Didn't expect it to do this well, so I guess Bond is more popular here than I thought.

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1 minute ago, John Marston said:

Venom ahead of No Time to Die? Embarrassing 

I know right? How on Earth could a movie coming out in 3 days sell more tickets than a movie coming out in 10 days? The world has gone mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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5 hours ago, titanic2187 said:

If Venom 2 became a breakout, then TSS is really a bomb in every way since both coming off from the critically panned predecessor. 

 

I think audiences liked Venom 1 way more than the first Suicide Squad.

 

Plus TSS was released for free on HBO.

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