The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Ronin46]

19 minutes ago, John Marston said:

Venom ahead of No Time to Die? Embarrassing 

Spectre 5.25M previews  70M OW

Venom 10M previews  80M OW

 

Apples and Oranges

 

 

 

[charlie Jatinder]

9 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

As I kept saying for a while dont compare MCU movies with everything. I see same issue for Bond. Comparing it to SC or BW is ridiculous. Real action will happen only in the final week and its Previews to OW multi will be better than SH movies. I am expecting both Venom 2 and Bond to have strong OW. 

I don't any one was seriously using the SC direct comp. If they were, well...

SC comp initially was at $3-4M, but was evident that V2 will hit $6-7M but guess the first few days were weak due release date ambiguity. V2 isn't still the F9 type where final day action is what matters, V2 still got that CBM pre-sales loaded ness.

[keysersoze123]

23 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Venom 2
Previews(T-4)

MTC1 - 52224/585811 861517.10 2902 shows (+7582)

MTC2 - 39366/543128 537843.80 3408 shows (+6337)

 

Friday(T-5)

MTC1 - 44808/798444 729204.86 3816 shows (+8051)

MTC2 - 38237/856830 486395.84 5447 shows(+6789)

 

Really good sunday. I would say. Well set for final week push. 

Venom 2

Previews (T-3)

MTC1 - 62869/603195 1060965.85 3057 shows (+10645)

MTC2 - 48978/586372 664847.68 3929 shows (+9612)

 

Friday (T-4)

MTC1 - 55966/853697 929831.26 4196 shows (+11158)

MTC2 -  47936/910133 606172.09 6019 shows (+9699)

 

Another strong day. 

 

[keysersoze123]

On 9/25/2021 at 8:18 PM, keysersoze123 said:

No Time to Die

Previews (T-12)

MTC1 -  23132/432114 415911.02 2017 shows

MTC2 - 11717/323425 168082.36 1979 shows

 

Quick Update just previews. 

NTTD Previews (T-10)

MTC1 - 27112/433665 501858.48 2031 shows

MTC2 - 13949/325393 200036.57 1988 shows

 

Its starting to accelerate. There is still time for this plus reviews and huge OS BO should spur sales as well. 

[Eric Duncan]

The Addams Family 2 Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	36	41	5720	0.72%

 

Comp

0.248x of Boss Baby 2 T-3 (325K)

0.229x of Jungle Cruise T-3 (618K)

 

Yeah it's pretty quiet and poor so far, but this isn't really a ticket seller kind of film. We'll see what happens as time goes on.

[Eric Duncan]

On 9/27/2021 at 12:29 AM, Dear Eric Hansen said:

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-4 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	92	1427	19613	7.28%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 157

 

Comp

1.018x of F9 T-4 (7.23M)

0.425x of Black Widow T-4 (5.61M)

2.355x of The Suicide Squad T-4 (9.65M)

0.719x of Shang-Chi T-4 (6.33M)

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	97	1759	20043	8.78%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 332

 

Comp

1.086x of F9 T-3 (7.71M)

0.481x of Black Widow T-3 (6.35M)

2.374x of The Suicide Squad T-3 (9.73M)

0.764x of Shang-Chi T-3 (6.72M)

 

Not much else to say. It's performing like how other folks have with their data.

[charlie Jatinder]

Alright bring $10M previews for VENOM 2.

Edited September 28, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[Eric Duncan]

The Many Saints of Newark Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-4 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	31	377	4499	8.38%

 

Comp

0.746x of Cruella Thu+Fri Monday Before Release (5.75M)

0.535x of Conjuring 3 T-4 (5.25M)

 

So I'll admit that it could be overperforming here. This feels like more of a coastal film, and Philly's nearby Jersey, so it could mess up the regional issues even more. But hey, nothing wrong with having hope I suppose.

[Pinacolada]

12 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Alright bring $10M previews for VENOM 2.

Soon come chaos. Chaos soon come.

[Eric Duncan]

On 9/27/2021 at 12:42 AM, Dear Eric Hansen said:

No Time to Die Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-11 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	68	664	14170	4.69%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 35

 

Comp

0.767x of F9 T-11 (5.45M)

0.316x of Black Widow T-11 (4.17M)

2.221x of The Suicide Squad T-11 (9.1M)

0.628x of Shang-Chi T-11 (5.53M)

No Time to Die Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-10 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	68	751	14170	5.30%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 87

 

Comp

0.843x of F9 T-10 (5.98M)

0.339x of Black Widow T-10 (4.48M)

2.399x of The Suicide Squad T-10 (9.84M)

0.635x of Shang-Chi T-10 (5.59M)

 

So one theater in particular boosted today's sales...but a gain is a gain nonetheless. October's gonna be a fun month y'all

[charlie Jatinder]

There are way too many shows added for Venom 2 in Harkins, most of them will hardly be selling anything. Such a overkill. Not tracking it.

[DlAMONDZ]

10 hours ago, titanic2187 said:

If Venom 2 became a breakout, then TSS is really a bomb in every way since both coming off from the critically panned predecessor. 

It was always a sorry excuse. Especially after WW and Aquaman broke out following BvS and JL

[Porthos]

23 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

No Time To Die Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-11 Days and Counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	134	20340	21216	876	4.13%

 

Total Showings Removed Today	1
Total Seats Removed Today	43
Total Seats Sold Today	64

 

T-11 Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold T-11	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
AQP II	139.65		34	623		4/71	2438/3061	20.35%		7.02m
F9	78.61		59	1080		0/79	11335/12415	8.70%		5.84m
NTTD (AQP adj)	---		64	870		0/134	20196/21066	4.13%		---
NTTD (F9 adj)	---		58	849		0/113	17317/18166	4.67%		---

COMP NOTE: Both the AQP II comp and the F9 comp have been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: NTTD (AQP adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include DBOX showings which were not tracked at that time while NTTD (F9 adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps.

SELLOUT NOTE:  Locally, AQP II was still under a capacity cap, which greatly inflated the number of sellouts as well as depressing the amount of seats available.

 

Regal: 176/6648 [2.65% sold] [+10 tickets]

 

No Time To Die Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-10 Days and Counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	135	20309	21259	950	4.47%

 

Total Showings Added Today	1
Total Seats Added Today	43
Total Seats Sold Today	74

 

T-10 Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold T-10	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
AQP II	140.69		48	671		4/74	2458/3129	21.44%		7.07m
F9	80.56		62	1142		0/79	11275/12417	9.20%		5.99m
NTTD (AQP adj)	---		74	944		0/135	20165/21109	4.47%		---
NTTD (F9 adj)	---		71	920		0/114	17289/18209	5.05%		---

COMP NOTE: Both the AQP II comp and the F9 comp have been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: NTTD (AQP adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include DBOX showings which were not tracked at that time while NTTD (F9 adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps.

SELLOUT NOTE:  Locally, AQP II was still under a capacity cap, which greatly inflated the number of sellouts as well as depressing the amount of seats available.

 

Matinee: 31/1644 [1.86% sold] | 3.26% of all tickets sold

Regal:   191/6648 [2.87% sold] [+15 tickets]

 

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Picking up a bit the last couple of days. 👍

[Porthos]

23 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-4 Days and Counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	183	26301	28762	2461	8.56%

 

Total Showings Added Today	10
Total Seats Added Today	564
Total Seats Sold Today	453

 

T-4 Comp         

	%		Sold T-4	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
BW	53.21		305	4625		0/193	2268827313	16.93%		7.35m
SC	102.29		261	2406		0/113	15205/17611	13.66%		9.00m

COMP NOTE:  Both the BW and the F9 comps has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

 

T-4 Adjusted Comp 

	%		Sold T-4	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
F9	126.36		200	1806		0/89	11678/13484	13.39%		9.39m
V2 (F9 adj)	---		419	2282		0/168	24103/26385	8.65%		---

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: V2 (F9 adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters that had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in F9's track.

 

Regal: 470/9342 [5.03% sold] [+90 tickets]

 

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Great googly moogly!!!!    

 

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-3 Days and Counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	216	28173	31210	3037	9.73%

 

Total Showings Added Today	33
Total Seats Added Today	2448
Total Seats Sold Today	576

 

T-3 Comp         

	%		Sold T-3	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
BW	59.62		469	5094		0/193	22219/27313	18.65%		8.24m
SC	110.80		335	2741		0/156	19111/21852	12.54%		9.75m

COMP NOTE:  Both the BW and the F9 comps has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

 

T-3 Adjusted Comp 

	%		Sold T-3	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
F9	135.87		257	2063		0/122	15198/17261	11.95%		10.10m
V2 (F9 adj)	---		521	2803		0/201	26030/28833	9.72%		---

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: V2 (F9 adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters that had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in F9's track.

 

Matinee:  193/3423 [5.64% sold] | 6.35% of all tickets sold

Regal:      470/9342 [5.03% sold] [+90 tickets]

 

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Added a "Matinee" field on both this and NTTD, as we're getting to the point in Venom 2 sales where it is actually starting to matter.  Not all that many tickets at the moment as Cinemark isn't offering matinee pricing here for Thur Night, and that matters a lot given how much of the market share it has here. 

 

Regal, which is offering some matinee showings, also doesn't appear to be offering it on its PLF screens, and that also matters with V2's current PLF penetration (currently 40% of all seats sold are some sort of PLF — which will start to come down as we get closer to release). 

 

Not much else to say, except another absolutely gangbusters day locally which shows that Sunday was no fluke at all.

[DAJK]

I’m going to be a bit careful using my region to track NTTD, as it already looks like it’s overperforming here significantly.

 

For example, in Canada, BC is behind Ontario regions in terms of presales for Venom, which makes sense (Ontario is a much bigger market). Ontario south and north are the strongest regions, followed by BC. But for NTTD, BC is far and away ahead of both Ontario regions.

 

I saw this with Shang Chi last month, which did our equivalent of ~120M 4-day opening at my theater. So when I track NTTD local sales, I’ll make sure to account for regional overperformance, and try to paint a less biased picture.

 

Bottom line so far is that both Venom and NTTD are looking strong. Venom is currently ahead, but that’s of course because it releases a week sooner. I guess we’ll see how things shake out.

[marveldcfox]

60+ OW or bust. Going to be front loaded as hell.

[TwoMisfits]

6 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

There are way too many shows added for Venom 2 in Harkins, most of them will hardly be selling anything. Such a overkill. Not tracking it.

 

Gonna get every last dime into OW...I assume a LOT of holdovers took screen/showing hits, b/c there are two other openers, too (or they just got scraps)...

Edited September 28, 2021 by TwoMisfits

[Legion Again]

Well, certainly, we had a loottttttt of dead screen space this weekend to cut into. But also the show count is a function of the 4PM start+short runtime 

[Menor the Destroyer]

Damn I take a break from the forum for a day and this happens...

 

 

[Menor the Destroyer]

19 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

I mean, sure, it's been something I've been noting all week.  But Venom 2 locally doing 73% more than Shang-Chi did on it's Sunday of release week made me want to pull a Cyber Ninja on my own data just because of it being that backloaded.  

It's not even an F9 performer. This backloadedness is another level. Though I had sort of suspected that, since even Shang-Chi was not that much less backloaded than F9.