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18 minutes ago, Pinacolada said:

So... was that article of Fandango pre-sales for No Time To Die outpacing Venom 2 and F9 just a lie? 

It is possible Fandango sold more tickets than Venom 2 but overall sales are lower. There are other ways to book movies, like ATOM and theaters own website. V2 probably beating NTTD there.

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No Time to Die (Wednesday Night Outlook)

Cinemark Davenport 18 + IMAX

Thursday:

IMAX showings: 54/776

4:00 P.M.: 13/388

7:50 P.M.: 41/388

2D showings: 85/1,216

4:45 P.M.: 5/141

5:30 P.M.: 30/135

6:00 P.M.: 4/94

6:50 P.M.: 41/238

8:35 P.M.: 0/141

9:20 P.M.: 4/135

9:50 P.M.: 0/94

10:40 P.M.: 1/238

Total Sold: 139/1,522 (9.13% sold)

 

Comps:

Black Widow: $3.1 mi

The Suicide Squad: $5.43 mil

Shang-Chi: $4 mil

Venom 2: $4.22 mil

Average: $4.19 mil

 

Friday:

IMAX showings: 59/1,552

11:40 A.M.: 7/388

3:20 P.M.: 3/388

7:00 P.M.: 45/388

10:40 P.M.: 4/388

2D showings: 180/1,254

10:15 A.M.: 8/141

11:00 A.M.: 7/135

12:25 P.M.: 3/94

1:10 P.M.: 13/238

1:55 P.M.: 2/141

2:40 P.M.: 4/135

4:05 P.M.: 6/94

4:50 P.M.: 34/238

5:35 P.M.: 11/141

6:20 P.M.: 54/135

7:45 P.M.: 4/94

8:30 P.M.: 31/238

9:15 P.M.: 2/141

10:00 P.M.: 1/135

Total Sold: 239/2,812 (8.5% sold)

 

Thurs + Fri: 378/4,332 (8.73% sold)

 

Comps:

Black Widow: $12.39 mil

The Suicide Squad: $27.18 mil

Shang-Chi: $20.06 mil

Venom 2: $19.98 mil

Average: $19.9 mil

 

The Friday sales here had a pretty decent day-to-day bump, which is encouraging. But yeah, I certainly hope it has strong walk-ups to carry it though this weekend.

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On 10/5/2021 at 11:46 PM, Porthos said:

 

Dune Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-16 Days and Counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

74

11158

11649

491

4.21%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

97

 

Day 2 Comp

 

   %

 

Sold Day 2

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

F9

104.25

 

78

471

 

0/92

13512/13983

3.37%

 

7.75m

SC

67.63

 

172

726

 

0/99

15764/16490

4.40%

 

5.95m

V2

117.75

 

69

417

 

0/146

23960/24377

1.71%

 

16.01m

COMP NOTE: The F9 comp have been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

 

1.387x of NTTD after Day 2 (???)

 

Regal: 142/4349 [2.76% sold] [+22 tickets]

 

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Still no real good comps, IMO.  Decent enough of a second day, though I still don't love the sale patterns at non-PLF showings (holding steady more or less, now at 75% [down from 78%]).  Did do 126% of NTTD's Day 2 locally, FWIW. 

 

Dune Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-15 Days and Counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

74

11106

11649

543

4.66%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

52

 

Day 3 Comp

 

   %

 

Sold Day 3

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

F9

98.91

 

78

549

 

0/92

13434/13983

3.93%

 

7.35m

SC

64.18

 

120

846

 

0/101

16156/17002

4.98%

 

5.65m

V2

107.10

 

90

507

 

0/148

24646/25153

2.02%

 

12.42m

COMP NOTE: The F9 comp have been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

 

1.106x of NTTD after Day 3 (???)

 

Regal: 147/4349 [3.38% sold] [+5 tickets]

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On 10/5/2021 at 11:47 PM, Porthos said:

 

No Time To Die Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-2 Days and Counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

1

176

22219

24485

2266

9.25%

 

 

Total Sellouts Added Today

1

Total Net Showings Added Today

19

Total Net Seats Added Today

1332

Total Net Seats Sold Today

385

 

T-2 Adjusted Comp

 

   %

 

Sold T-2

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

AQP II 

119.47

 

359

1870

 

26/118

2479/4349

43.00%

 

6.00m

F9

87.64

 

397

2460

 

0/143

15720/18180

13.53%

 

6.52m

NTTD (AQP adj)

---

 

379

2234

 

1176

22101/24335

9.18%

 

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NTTD (F9 adj)

---

 

362

2156

 

1/155

19280/21436

10.06%

 

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COMP NOTE: Both the AQP II comp and the F9 comp have been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: NTTD (AQP adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include DBOX showings which were not tracked at that time while NTTD (F9 adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps.

SELLOUT NOTE:  Locally, AQP II was still under a capacity cap, which greatly inflated the number of sellouts as well as depressing the amount of seats available.

 

Matinee: 137/1882 [5.05% sold] | 6.05% of all tickets sold

Regal:     480/8058 [5.96% sold] [+64 tickets]

 

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SMG sellout strikes again.  Still think it's only pushing up totals by at most a handful of tickets so I won't lose sleep over it.

 

As for the T-2 bump.... Eh.  At least the F9 comp inched up?

 

No Time To Die Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-1 Day and Counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

1

178

21896

24718

2822

11.42%

 

Total Net Showings Added Today

2

Total Net Seats Added Today

233

Total Net Seats Sold Today

556

 

T-1 Unadjusted Comp

 

   %

 

Sold T-1

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

SC

67.06

 

929

4208

 

1/188

20777/24985

16.84%

 

5.90m

V2

55.04

 

1372

5127

 

0/244

28009/33136

15.47%

 

6.38m

 

T-1 Adjusted Comp

 

   %

 

Sold T-1

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

AQP II 

116.51

 

523

2393

 

21/125

2643/5036

47.42%

 

5.86m

F9

91.27

 

439

2899

 

0/168

17632/20531

14.12%

 

6.79m

NTTD (AQP adj)

---

 

554

2788

 

1/178

21780/24567

11.35%

 

---

NTTD (F9 adj)

---

 

490

2646

 

1/157

19023/21669

12.21%

 

---

COMP NOTE: Both the AQP II comp and the F9 comp have been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: NTTD (AQP adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include DBOX showings which were not tracked at that time while NTTD (F9 adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps.

SELLOUT NOTE:  Locally, AQP II was still under a capacity cap, which greatly inflated the number of sellouts as well as depressing the amount of seats available.

 

Matinee: 186/1882 [9.88% sold] | 6.59% of all tickets sold

Regal:     610/8058 [7.57% sold] [+130 tickets]

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On 10/3/2021 at 6:15 AM, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day Movie Area Theaters Shows Total Seats Total Sold New Sales* % Sold
T-3 No Time to Die (Wed) Jacksonville 3 3 1,046 119 26 11.38%
    Phoenix 1 1 410 34 19 8.29%
    Raleigh 1 1 151 102 15 67.55%
  No Time to Die (Wed) Total   5 5 1,607 255 60 15.87%
T-4 No Time to Die Jacksonville 7 60 10,170 284 77 2.79%
    Phoenix 7 37 5,593 315 112 5.63%
    Raleigh 7 34 3,951 394 118 9.97%
  No Time to Die Total   21 131 19,714 993 307 5.04%

*New sales since Thursday morning

 

Not gonna pick up Halloween yet since I probably won't have time to track much this week. 

 

No Time to Die T-4 comps

F9 - .8x (5.68m)

TSS - 1.94x (7.94m)

 

Average - 6.81m

Average incl Wed - 8.56m

Day Movie Area Theaters Shows Total Seats Total Sold New Sales* % Sold
T-0 No Time to Die Jacksonville 7 73 11,145 698 414 6.26%
    Phoenix 7 59 7,197 727 412 10.10%
    Raleigh 7 39 4,288 824 430 19.22%
  No Time to Die Total   21 171 22,630 2,249 1,256 9.94%

*New sales since Sunday morning

 

Looks like pace has fallen off a little the past few days.  I haven't been on much so I'm not sure if this is widespread, but I think we're expecting this to be much more walk-up heavy given the target audience is a little older.   Showtimes had a huge jump in a lot of theaters; I'm interested to see how this one stacks up with the longer runtime.  I just now realized I never posted my showtimes report last week so I'll need to post both tomorrow morning.

 

NTtD comps

F9 - .736x (5.22m)

TSS - 1.775x (7.28m)

Venom - .6x (6.97m)

 

Average - 6.5m (before adding Wednesday)

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I wonder if Fandango leans more toward more frequent moviegoers while more infrequent moviegoers tend to book through the theater site. I am just wildly guessing but it does seem odd that there could be such a skew between Fandango's report and the data we are seeing in the thread, especially since no Fandango in Canada. 

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5 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

No Time To Die Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-1 Day and Counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

1

178

21896

24718

2822

11.42%

 

Total Net Showings Added Today

2

Total Net Seats Added Today

233

Total Net Seats Sold Today

556

 

T-1 Unadjusted Comp

 

   %

 

Sold T-1

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

SC

67.06

 

929

4208

 

1/188

20777/24985

16.84%

 

5.90m

V2

55.04

 

1372

5127

 

0/244

28009/33136

15.47%

 

6.38m

 

T-1 Adjusted Comp

 

   %

 

Sold T-1

Total Sold

 

Sellouts/Shows

Seats Left/Total Seats

Perct Sold

 

Comp

AQP II 

116.51

 

523

2393

 

21/125

2643/5036

47.42%

 

5.86m

F9

91.27

 

439

2899

 

0/168

17632/20531

14.12%

 

6.79m

NTTD (AQP adj)

---

 

554

2788

 

1/178

21780/24567

11.35%

 

---

NTTD (F9 adj)

---

 

490

2646

 

1/157

19023/21669

12.21%

 

---

COMP NOTE: Both the AQP II comp and the F9 comp have been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: NTTD (AQP adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include DBOX showings which were not tracked at that time while NTTD (F9 adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps.

SELLOUT NOTE:  Locally, AQP II was still under a capacity cap, which greatly inflated the number of sellouts as well as depressing the amount of seats available.

 

Matinee: 186/1882 [9.88% sold] | 6.59% of all tickets sold

Regal:     610/8058 [7.57% sold] [+130 tickets]

Does the +556 include the +104 for Wed that you posted earlier? 

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Day Movie Area Theaters Shows Total Seats Total Sold New Sales % Sold
T-14 Dune Jacksonville 6 36 6,338 156 156 2.46%
    Phoenix 6 17 2,529 170 170 6.72%
    Raleigh 6 15 2,320 94 94 4.05%
  Dune Total   18 68 11,187 420 420 3.75%
T-7 Halloween Kills Jacksonville 6 14 2,528 121 121 4.79%
    Phoenix 7 19 3,016 162 162 5.37%
    Raleigh 7 15 1,858 149 149 8.02%
  Halloween Kills Total   20 48 7,402 432 432 5.84%

 

Had a little time this morning to set up the next two big movies.  

 

Halloween Kills T-7 comps

TSS - 1.09x (4.47m)

Venom 2 - .503x (5.84m)

 

Average - 5.157m

 

Dune T-14 comps

Venom 2 - .909x (10.55m)

F9 - .737x (5.23m)

 

Average - 7.89m

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57 minutes ago, Menor said:

I wonder if Fandango leans more toward more frequent moviegoers while more infrequent moviegoers tend to book through the theater site. I am just wildly guessing but it does seem odd that there could be such a skew between Fandango's report and the data we are seeing in the thread, especially since no Fandango in Canada. 

 

Well, it's also when they pulled data...Venom 2 took off its last week, so it could have been behind before surging wildly ahead its last 3 days...since we know the fanbase bought early for Bond (b/c it was in front of Venom to start)...

 

 

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I do think Bond is finishing below Venom, but it also could be that alot of older, more traditional people think of Bond as a nice "Friday night date/weekend at the movies" and it just doesn't have a previews fanbase. Heck, that's what Skyfall and Spectre tell us! Especially when it's a 2hrs 43 minutes movie on a weeknight. I'd love to see more sales breakdowns of Fri/Sat/Sun, cuz that could explain the Fandango thing too.

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7 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

 

Well, it's also when they pulled data...Venom 2 took off its last week, so it could have been behind before surging wildly ahead its last 3 days...since we know the fanbase bought early for Bond (b/c it was in front of Venom to start)...

 

 

My sense is it was below Venom 2 from Sunday onwards for sure, though need to go back through the thread to check. 

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With the discussions of Bond having fewer showtimes, I decided to take a look at Central Florida multiplexes and see what the average screen allocation is for it and Venom this weekend.

 

Bond has no fewer than 4 screens at any multiplex; a couple midsize multiplexes (8-14 screens) have it on 5 screens, but the majority of midsize multiplexes have it on 4. Venom ranges from 2-3 screens at mid-size multiplexes. Larger multiplexes (16+ screens) tend to have Bond on 5 screens and Venom on 3-4 screens. Only one theater has Bond on 6 screens, and it's a 20plex. Venom outnumbers it in showtimes, but that's only due to its short runtime. Bond still has much more screen space.

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26 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

I do think Bond is finishing below Venom, but it also could be that alot of older, more traditional people think of Bond as a nice "Friday night date/weekend at the movies" and it just doesn't have a previews fanbase. Heck, that's what Skyfall and Spectre tell us! Especially when it's a 2hrs 43 minutes movie on a weeknight. I'd love to see more sales breakdowns of Fri/Sat/Sun, cuz that could explain the Fandango thing too.

No it's below V2 on Friday as well, and worse pace.

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3 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

Holy shit! My theater just added 20 new showings for Friday - from 5 to 25.

 

For Dune?  Halloween Kills?  I mean, I guess this could be Bond, but that would be 5 screens found last minute:)...

 

Did Ron's Gone Wrong move or is it not getting booked (I'm assuming that would open space for Dune) or the same for Last Duel?

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5 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

 

For Dune?  Halloween Kills?  I mean, I guess this could be Bond, but that would be 5 screens found last minute:)...

 

Did Ron's Gone Wrong move or is it not getting booked (I'm assuming that would open space for Dune) or the same for Last Duel?

It was Bond. BOT is doing that thing that won't let me post pictures, but yesterday morning when I last looked they only had 4, 6, 7:30, 8, 8:30, and 10 (so six, not five), and now they have 24 at Regal Oakwood 18 in Hollywood

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