The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[keysersoze123]

2 minutes ago, Let There Be Legion said:

This is why the BW comps will go up...

 

Just like we saw with SC. More established will be more front loaded, as a general rule, first intro of new characters less, right? I feel like this dynamic is very well established.

But there will be less interest in many as well as opposed to seeing BW for one last time. It wont play that wide for sure. That shows in MTC2 ratio being well down. We will know in few days if that is true or not. 

That said the MCU fanbase is big and they did buy yesterday in full. I am looking at GA at this point. 

Edited October 13, 2021 by keysersoze123

[Eric Atreides]

On 10/11/2021 at 11:46 PM, Eric Atreides said:

The Last Duel Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	14	30	1865	1.61%

 

Comp

0.059x of Cruella Thu+Fri T-3 (458K)

0.200x of Snake Eyes T-3 (280K)

1.034x of Respect T-3 (672K)

3.750x of Cry Macho 3 Days Before Release (6M)

0.080x of Many Saints of Newark 3 Days Before Release (167K)

 

So I skipped a lot of adult-skewing films that came out this year because I didn't have the time and freedom that I used to, so this is another film where I don't have many good comps. At the same time...yeah, this is not pretty.

The Last Duel Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-2 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	22	43	2631	1.63%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 8

Total Seats Added Today: 766

Total Seats Sold Today: 13

 

Comp

0.079x of Cruella Thu+Fri T-2 (611K)

0.211x of Snake Eyes T-2 (296K)

0.398x of Respect T-2 (259K)

3.583x of Cry Macho 2 Days Before Release (5.73M)

0.086x of Many Saints 2 Days Before Release (180K)

[elcaballero]

Dang, potentially some crazy good numbers for Halloween. 

 

35 minutes ago, Barnack said:

The genre can make it seen for many has a near irrelevant home watch too, would be curious to see the rating of people that have seen a movie like It first weekend in a filled crowd versus at home.

I'm guessing there is some pent-up demand for a proper horror experience in October. Definitely expecting it to play better with an audience.

[Eric Atreides]

On 10/11/2021 at 11:57 PM, Eric Atreides said:

Dune Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-10 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	33	790	6716	11.76%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 38

 

Comp

0.887x of F9 T-10 (6.29M)

0.357x of Black Widow T-10 (4.71M)

2.524x of The Suicide Squad T-10 (10.35M)

0.668x of Shang-Chi T-10 (5.88M)

0.930x of Venom 2 T-10 (10.79M)

1.052x of No Time to Die T-10 (6.63M)

Dune Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-9 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	34	828	6781	12.21%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 1

Total Seats Added Today: 65

Total Seats Sold Today: 38

 

Comp

0.885x of F9 T-9 (6.28M)

0.349x of Black Widow T-9 (4.61M)

2.472x of The Suicide Squad T-9 (10.13M)

0.628x of Shang-Chi T-9 (5.52M)

0.930x of Venom 2 T-9 (10.79M)

1.004x of No Time to Die T-9 (6.32M)

[Nikostar]

10 minutes ago, Eric Atreides said:

The Last Duel Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-2 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	22	43	2631	1.63%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 8

Total Seats Added Today: 766

Total Seats Sold Today: 13

 

Comp

0.079x of Cruella Thu+Fri T-2 (611K)

0.211x of Snake Eyes T-2 (296K)

0.398x of Respect T-2 (259K)

3.583x of Cry Macho 2 Days Before Release (5.73M)

0.086x of Many Saints 2 Days Before Release (180K)

Yikes

[Eric Atreides]

On 10/12/2021 at 12:02 AM, Eric Atreides said:

Eternals Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-24 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	49	848	10020	8.46%

 

Comp

1.040x of Black Widow's 1st Day of Presales (13.73M)

0.719x of Black Widow T-24 (9.49M)

1.663x of Shang-Chi's 1st Day of Presales (14.63M)

 

Wow, Papa Feige has another hit on his hands? What a complete and total shock.

Eternals Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-23 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	50	1011	10146	9.96%

 

Total Showings Added Today: 1

Total Seats Added Today: 126

Total Seats Sold Today: 163

 

Comp

1.068x of Black Widow's First Two Days of Presales (14.09M)

0.792x of Black Widow T-23 (10.46M)

1.432x of Shang-Chi's Second Day of Presales (12.6M)

[WrathOfHan]

Presales so far are indicating we'll get four 50M+ openers in a row. Cinema is alive  

[Porthos]

6 hours ago, Porthos said:

Out of curiosity, just did a quick run in Sacto for Halloween Kills, and I got something in the 3m range off a AQP II comp (used T-3 numbers for AQP II since it's in the afternoon here in Sacramento), so much like Denver it doesn't appear to be taking off here quite yet. 

 

Horror is extremely walkup based, but so was AQP II.  If I have the time/inclination tonight I might do a more rigorous check so I can also compare it to F9.

 

Had some time to kill since my Gigantes were shitting the bed tonight, so I just did a Quick and Dirty check of Halloween Kills locally.

 

...

 

Could be better. Could be a lot better

 

1042/10125 tickets sold.

 

Have to do various adjusting, but for AQP II that gives a current comp of 2.68m and for F9 that gives 2.77m.

 

(Came down from 3m-ish coz I was using T-3 comps while doing a sample at 4pm)

 

Maybe Sacto is hella underperforming. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

 

FWIW, TSS gives a comp of 4m while V2 gives a comp of 3.2m.  And TSS hella underperformed locally.

 

(as might be expected, this doing quite well post 10pm so something to keep in mind)

[Porthos]

2 hours ago, Menor said:

Edit: MTC1 previews look a bit weaker. I guess be a bit cautious on MTC2 here, it may be overindexing on previews. Still Friday seems extremely strong for both even accounting for the MTC2 overindex. 

 

FWIW, there are a lot more showtimes here for MTC2 than MTC3 or the indies.  Like, by a lot.

 

MTC2:             62 showings

Everyone else: 27 showings

 

That's a big skew for us, even when considering this is a MTC2 heavy market.

 

I'd expect MTC3 to ratchet up the showtimes in the last two days as they're seeing brisk sales at their good locations.  But even so, that might be skewing your numbers a bit if this is playing out nationwide (MTC2 expanded before other outfits).

 

Also, I know that MTC2 has XD showings and while MTC3 has some RPXs, I haven't seen any IMAX screenings, so that'll also tilt the balance in favor of MTC2 where they directly compete with each other.

Edited October 13, 2021 by Porthos

[Legion Again]

17 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

Presales so far are indicating we'll get four 50M+ openers in a row. Cinema is alive  

Just chop eternals in half for 6 

[Porthos]

On 10/11/2021 at 11:25 PM, Porthos said:

 

Dune Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-10 Days and Counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	75	11001	11831	830	7.02%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

83

 

T-10 Unadjusted Comp

	%		Sold T-10	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
NTTD	87.37		74	950		0/135	20309/21259	4.47%		5.42m
SC	60.58		149	1370		0/101	15632/17002	8.06%		5.33m
V2	65.76		93	1262		0/156	24816/26078	4.48%		7.63m

PRE-SALE NOTE: NTTD tickets have been on sale for two days more than Dune while Venom: Let There Be Carnage has been on sale for five more days than Dune

 

T-10 Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold T-10	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
F9	67.86		62	1142		0/79	11275/12417	9.20%		5.05m
Dune (adj)	---		83	775		0/65	9624/10399	7.45%		---

COMP NOTE: The F9 comp have been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: DUNE (adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps in this point in F9's track.

PRE-SALE NOTE: F9 tickets have been on sale for five more days than Dune' s tickets have been on sale.

 

Regal: 216/4531 [4.77% sold] [+25 tickets]

 

Dune Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-9 Days and Counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	78	11142	12042	900	7.47%

 

Total Net Showtimes Added Today	3
Total Net Seats Added Today	211
Total Seats Sold Today	70

 

T-9 Unadjusted Comp

	%		Sold T-9	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
NTTD	86.71		88	1038		0/142	21077/22115	4.69%		5.38m
SC	60.32		122	1492		0/108	15995/17487	8.06%		5.31m
V2	66.23		97	1359		0/168	26691/28050	4.48%		7.68m

PRE-SALE NOTE: NTTD tickets have been on sale for two days more than Dune while Venom: Let There Be Carnage has been on sale for five more days than Dune

 

T-9 Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold T-9	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
F9	68.77		81	1223		0/80	11347/12570	9.73%		5.11m
Dune (adj)	---		66	841		0/68	9785/10626	7.91%		---

COMP NOTE: The F9 comp have been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: DUNE (adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps in this point in F9's track.

PRE-SALE NOTE: F9 tickets have been on sale for five more days than Dune' s tickets have been on sale.

 

Regal: 241/4758 [5.07% sold] [+25 tickets]

Edited October 14, 2021 by Porthos

[Porthos]

On 10/11/2021 at 11:26 PM, Porthos said:

Eternals Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-24 Days and Counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	96	14669	15543	874	5.62%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

874

 

Day One Unadjusted Comp

	%		Day 1	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
SC	157.76		554	554		0/92	15096/15650	3.54%		13.88m

 

Day One Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold Day 1	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
BW	76.86		1089	1089		0/99	16124/17213	6.33%		10.62m
Eternals (adj)	---		837	837		0/87	13556/14393	5.82%		---

COMP NOTE: The Eternals comp have been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: DUNE (adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps in this point in BW's track.

 

Regal: 181/4570 [3.96% sold]

 

===

 

Very nice first day.  Decided that Venom: Let There Be Carnage and F9 were dumb comps for now.  I'll rope in V2 eventually and F9 (and maybe others) closer to the end.

 

Not much else to say that hasn't been said by others.

 

Eternals Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-23 Days and Counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	96	14470	15543	1073	6.90%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

199

 

Day Two Unadjusted Comp

	%		Day 2	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
SC	147.80		172	726		0/99	15764/16490	4.40%		13.01m

 

Day Two Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold Day 2	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
BW	76.69		224	1313		0/104	16873/18186	7.22%		10.12m
Eternals (adj)	---		170	1007		0/87	13203/14210	7.09%		---

COMP NOTE: The Eternals comp have been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: DUNE (adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps in this point in BW's track.

 

Regal: 224/4570 [4.90% sold] [+45 tickets]

Edited October 13, 2021 by Porthos

[charlie Jatinder]

22 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Eternals Harkins T-24 Days

 

Format	Shows	Capacity	Sold	% Sold	Gross	ATP
Normal	187	48,264	281	0.58%	$3,222	$11.47
Cine 1	16	4,818	583	12.10%	$9,043	$15.51
Cine Capri	4	1,782	40	2.24%	$570	$14.25
IMAX	2	890	115	12.92%	$1,725	$15.00
3D	10	1,623	3	0.18%	$43	$14.33
Total	219	57,377	1,022	1.78%	$14,603	$14.29

 

Comps

2.17x Shang Chi first day of sales - $19M

 

I don't have BW comp but first 4 days of sales was ~1700 admits. Not entirely sure if Eternals can reach there in 4 days, so let's see. I guess West coast is bit lower than Black Widow while East is over for Eternals.

 

That Shang Chi comp shall drop in coming days (right )

Eternals Harkins T-23 Days

Format	Shows	Capacity	Sold	% Sold	Gross	ATP
Normal	189	48,883	335	0.69%	$3,860	$11.52
Cine 1	16	4,818	659	13.68%	$10,217	$15.50
Cine Capri	4	1,782	54	3.03%	$768	$14.22
IMAX	2	890	128	14.38%	$1,920	$15.00
3D	10	1,623	5	0.31%	$73	$14.60
Total	221	57,996	1,181	2.04%	$16,838	$14.26

 

Comps

1.75x Shang Chi two days of sales - $15.4M

 

I don't remember if SC day two was boosted by something, hopefully this stick around this ratio.

[Gopher]

Guys... don't get my hopes up for HK....

[Krissykins]

1 hour ago, Gopher said:

Guys... don't get my hopes up for HK....

Yeh, I won’t get mine up either. Especially when there is a 2-3m number floating around. 
 

I’ll still be happy with anything over $30m. 

[charlie Jatinder]

53 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

Yeh, I won’t get mine up either. Especially when there is a 2-3m number floating around. 
 

I’ll still be happy with anything over $30m. 

Previews are already $1.6M, so wont be as low as $3M. Bare minimum is $5M I think.

[Menor the Destroyer]

4 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Eternals Harkins T-23 Days

Format	Shows	Capacity	Sold	% Sold	Gross	ATP
Normal	189	48,883	335	0.69%	$3,860	$11.52
Cine 1	16	4,818	659	13.68%	$10,217	$15.50
Cine Capri	4	1,782	54	3.03%	$768	$14.22
IMAX	2	890	128	14.38%	$1,920	$15.00
3D	10	1,623	5	0.31%	$73	$14.60
Total	221	57,996	1,181	2.04%	$16,838	$14.26

 

Comps

1.75x Shang Chi two days of sales - $15.4M

 

I don't remember if SC day two was boosted by something, hopefully this stick around this ratio.

SC had social media reactions on the night of its day 1, hence it held well for the first 4-5 days before dropping off. Then it had another review bump the next Monday too. I think BW will be a better comp until the final week since they were closer in PS length. 

[filmlover]

One thing to keep in mind about Halloween Kills is that night shows will definitely sell much better than day ones.

[katnisscinnaplex]

20 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-2	Halloween Kills	Jacksonville	6	21	3,097	367	110	11.85%
		Phoenix	7	19	3,016	436	97	14.46%
		Raleigh	7	17	2,028	310	47	15.29%
	Halloween Kills Total		20	57	8,141	1,113	254	13.67%
	The Last Duel	Jacksonville	5	9	863	18	7	2.09%
		Phoenix	7	12	1,400	37	11	2.64%
		Raleigh	7	8	600	28	4	4.67%
	The Last Duel Total		19	29	2,863	83	22	2.90%
T-23	Eternals	Jacksonville	6	47	7,996	296	296	3.70%
		Phoenix	6	35	5,949	230	230	3.87%
		Raleigh	7	26	3,078	237	237	7.70%
	Eternals Total		19	108	17,023	763	763	4.48%
T-9	Dune	Jacksonville	7	39	6,545	275	9	4.20%
		Phoenix	6	17	2,529	237	10	9.37%
		Raleigh	8	21	2,915	173	20	5.93%
	Dune Total		21	77	11,989	685	39	5.71%

 

Halloween comps

TSS - 1.52x (6.25m)

Venom 2 - .549x (6.37m)

Candyman - 5.456x (16.4m)

 

The Last Duel comps

Green Knight - .51x (384k)

Old - .63x (943k)

 

Dune comps

Venom 2 - .95x (11m)

F9 - .8x (5.63m)

No Time to Die - 1.3x (6.76m)

 

Average - 7.81m

 

Eternals comps

Black Widow (day 1) - 1.42x (18.76m)

Shang Chi (day 2) - 1.32x (11.58m)

 

Excellent start for Eternals!  Didn't get a chance to pull ticket prices but it sounds like they've increased in a lot of places.  

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-1	Halloween Kills	Jacksonville	6	35	4,409	454	87	10.30%
		Phoenix	7	31	4,294	582	146	13.55%
		Raleigh	7	17	2,028	377	67	18.59%
	Halloween Kills Total		20	83	10,731	1,413	300	13.17%
	The Last Duel	Jacksonville	5	12	1,147	19	1	1.66%
		Phoenix	7	11	1,208	37	2	3.06%
		Raleigh	7	8	600	29	1	4.83%
	The Last Duel Total		19	31	2,955	85	4	2.88%
T-22	Eternals	Jacksonville	6	47	7,996	338	42	4.23%
		Phoenix	6	35	5,949	264	34	4.44%
		Raleigh	7	26	3,078	284	47	9.23%
	Eternals Total		19	108	17,023	886	123	5.20%
T-8	Dune	Jacksonville	7	39	6,545	288	13	4.40%
		Phoenix	6	20	3,168	264	27	8.33%
		Raleigh	8	21	2,915	191	18	6.55%
	Dune Total		21	80	12,628	743	58	5.88%

 

After seeing some of the other Candyman comps for Halloween I started to question what I was getting; sure enough, I hadn't updated the preview number when I updated from Venom comps.  While it lowers the comp to a much more realistic number, it's still higher than the other comps.  For showtimes, The Last Duel only added two while Halloween Kills added 26 (though none in Raleigh yet for some reason).  Hoping we get a few more today - that 13.17% sold really stands out with still two days left.

 

Halloween Kills

TSS - 1.475x (6.05m)

Venom 2 - .534x (6.2m)

Candyman - 4.806x (9.13m)

 

Average - 7.13m

 

Last Duel

Green Knight - .366x (275k)

Old - .42x (631k)

 

Dune

Venom 2 - .94x (10.94m)

F9 - .825x (5.86m)

No Time to Die - 1.26x (6.56m)

 

Eternals (day 2 comps)

BW - 1.164x (15.37m)

SC - 1.528x (13.44m)

[Tinalera]

Halloween Kills

Toronto Ontario

Taken Oct 13 for Thurs Oct 14

8 Theatres, 21 showings

 

Total Sold 489

Total Available 5007

 

Percentage sold 8.9

 

 

Good news (possibly). It sounds like starting Friday theatres will be allowed full capacity here in Ontario, meaning no more "Seat Counts by percentage" It will be nice not only for posting, but I can have a definitive number now of what theatres have what seat counts when doing future numbers. Yay I guess?