The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Tinalera]

House of Gucci 

Toronto Ontario

Nov 24 (taken nov 15

10 theatres

43 shows

 

Total sold 363

total remaining 13570

total seats 13933

percentage 2.61

[el sid]

House of Gucci, counted yesterday at 11 am EST for Tuesday, November 23:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 16 (2 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): so far no showtimes
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 2 (1 showtime)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 0 (1 showtime)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 0 (1 showtime)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 64 (2 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 85 (4 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 6 theaters: 167.

Comps: Hustlers (33.2M OW) had 7 days before its previews 317 sold tickets in 7 theaters (= 2 days left for HoG to come closer).

House of Gucci, counted yesterday at 11 am EST for Wednesday, November 24:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 20 (4 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): so far no showtimes
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 2 (2 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 0 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 3 (2 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 44 (5 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 13 (10 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 6 theaters: 82.

 

Comps: Hustlers had 8 days before 385 sold tickets in 7 theaters for Friday (= also 2 days left for HoG to come closer),
Last Night in Soho (4.2M OW) had on Monday of its release week 126 sold tickets in 6 theaters for Friday (= 6 days left for HoG to overtake)

and Respect (8.8M OW) had on Wednesday of its release week (I have no earlier numbers) 129 sold tickets in 7 theaters for Friday (8 days left for HoG to overtake).
 

With that cast and not too few talking here in this forum I was surprised that the boxofficepro prediction isn't higher (at the moment 8-13M 3-day OW). I know it's another adult-driven drama but I would say its presales look quite good at the moment, especially for Tuesday.

G:A, counted today at 10am EST for Thursday, November 18:
 

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 167 (6 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 45 (2 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 73 (2 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 24 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 30 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 201 (7 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 396 (8 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 936.

Comps (both counted on Monday for Thursday and in 7 theaters): Terminator: Dark Fate (29.0M OW, 2.35M from previews) had 709 sold tickets = 3.1M

and TSS (4.1M) had 1.385 sold tickets = 2.8M.
I guess both comps make it look worse than it is because T6 had a R-Rating and TSS was on HBO Max. Would add at least 1M to the numbers above.
 

G:A, counted today at 10am EST for Friday, November 19:
 

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 166 (9 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 21 (3 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 58 (2 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 18 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 17 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 128 (8 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 106 (12 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 514.

Comps (all counted on Monday for Friday and in 7 theaters): T6 (8.25M true Friday) had 1.074 sold tickets = 4M,
TSS (8.0M) had 940 sold tickets = 4.4M. Both films didn't have big jumps in their last week and - as mentioned above - are probably too unfriendly as comps.
Jungle Cruise (10.8M) had 357 sold tickets = 15.55M. That film had good jumps.

It concerns me that the sales for Friday are still much lower than for Thursday but with good WOM that is maybe not too important.
And maybe it behaves more like JC, also jump-wise.

Edited November 15, 2021 by el sid

[Porthos]

5 hours ago, CenterMeOnSam said:

Can anyone explain to me these numbers and how I should be reading them? I feel like I need a PDF of instructions hahaha. 

 

Really depends on what you're looking for, but usually the most important takeaway for just a casual glance is the comp.  More on that in a bit.

 

But even that is highly dependent on a movie being either in a similar genre or having a similar pre-sale pattern as folks will buy tickets at different times during a pre-sale window thanks to a very long list of factors.

 

Add in that movies will have different promotional schedules during their pre-sales (review embargoes, TV campaigns, fan events, and so on) and even films in similar genres can be difficult to look at just the comp.

 

Anywho to give one of my recent ones as an example:

 

12 hours ago, Porthos said:

T-4 Unadjusted Comp

	%		Sold Day T-4	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
TSS	132.49		141	751		0/87	14373/15124	4.97%		5.43m
SC	41.35		261	2406		0/113	15205/17611	13.66%		3.64m
V2	40.43		453	2461		0/183	26301/28762	8.56%		4.69m
NTTD	58.43		157	1703		0/145	20757/22460	6.89%		3.62m

 

 

This is saying that Ghostbusters: Afterlife has sold 32% more tickets than The Suicide Squad  did at this point in its sales.  If it continued to sell 32% more tickets each and every day until the end, the preview number would be 5.43m.

 

On the other hand, it's also saying that G:A has sold 41% of the tickets that Shang-Chi had at this point, which if it repeated that would point to 3.64m in previews.

 

And so on and so on.

 

For a film like Ghostbusters: Afterlife where we probably don't have a great comp (comedies usually have folks buy their tickets close to release BUT this is a property that is heavily nostalgia based with a turbulent recent history), a lot of us are just using a bunch of different recent movies to try to nail down an upper and lower range.

 

As we get closer to release, that range will narrow and on the actual day of release we should have a pretty decent idea of where this will land.

 

Other folks format their reports differently but nearly all of us do some version of "Comped movie had sold X amount of tickets at that point in time which would mean Y amount of dollars for this film".  Everything else is just nerdy details for the more obsessive folks here who like the extra information.

 

Hope this helps explain some of the things.

Edited November 15, 2021 by Porthos

[Paul Verhoeven]

https://www.spetteguless.it/2021/11/15/house-of-gucci-biglietti-venduti-anteprime-italiane/

 

According to local media, Gucci presale in Italy are huge. Sold 4k tickets in 12 hours.

 

[Tinalera]

4 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

Really depends on what you're looking for, but usually the most important takeaway for just a casual glance is the comp.  More on that in a bit.

 

But even that is highly dependent on a movie being either in a similar genre or having a similar pre-sale pattern as folks will buy tickets at different times during a pre-sale window thanks to a very long list of factors.

 

Add in that movies will have different promotional schedules during their pre-sales (review embargoes, TV campaigns, fan events, and so on) and even films in similar genres can be difficult to look at just the comp.

 

Anywho to give one of my recent ones as an example:

 

 

This is saying that Ghostbusters: Afterlife has sold 32% more tickets than The Suicide Squad  did at this point in its sales.  If it continued to sell 32% more tickets each and every day until the end, the preview number would be 5.43m.

 

On the other hand, it's also saying that G:A has sold 41% of the tickets that Shang-Chi had at this point, which if it repeated that would point to 3.64m in previews.

 

And so on and so on.

 

For a film like Ghostbusters: Afterlife where we probably don't have a great comp (comedies usually have folks buy their tickets close to release BUT this is a property that is heavily nostalgia based with a turbulent recent history), a lot of us are just using a bunch of different recent movies to try to nail down an upper and lower range.

 

As we get closer to release, that range will narrow and on the actual day of release we should have a pretty decent idea of where this will land.

 

Other folks format their reports differently but nearly all of us do some version of "Comped movie had sold X amount of tickets at that point in time which would mean Y amount of dollars for this film".  Everything else is just nerdy details for the more obsessive folks here who like the extra information.

 

Hope this helps explain some of the things.

Ive wondered is there a database (other than this thread lol) where I can find quick comp numbers at a glance? I know some people just keep their own records of day by day of each film and just look back at it in their files. I don't do nearly that, and don't have numbers in my files. Just wondering any suggestion for quick references, or just "dig through the thread"?

[Porthos]

10 minutes ago, Tinalera said:

Ive wondered is there a database (other than this thread lol) where I can find quick comp numbers at a glance? I know some people just keep their own records of day by day of each film and just look back at it in their files. I don't do nearly that, and don't have numbers in my files. Just wondering any suggestion for quick references, or just "dig through the thread"?

 

No, there's no central database on this forum or elsewhere for that. 

 

I have a day-by-day masterlist of all the movies I've fully tracked that goes back years on my home computer, but that's about it.  I presume others are doing something similar, either on their own home computers/tablets or on various cloud services.

 

Probably too many of us who report things in different ways to really make a standardized central database for us to consult (not to mention tracking different movies, or not tracking it each and every day).

Edited November 15, 2021 by Porthos

[TwoMisfits]

VERY LAST MINUTE deal (not mentioned til today with this Atom tweet)...look for a big bump tomorrow on MTC 1/2...

 

 

 

Edited November 15, 2021 by TwoMisfits

[Blaze Heatnix]

 

[Inceptionzq]

On 11/14/2021 at 3:54 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Ghostbusters Afterlife Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

144

1660

8.67%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

136

1937

7.02%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST 4 DAYS	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
641	177	18081	3.55%	15	93

 

Wednesday:

Total

71

786

 

NTTD comp: 3.67M

F9 comp: 5.45M

 

Looks like it's in a decent spot right now, but let's see how much it ramps up this week. The F9 comp will probably drop quite a bit over the last few days

Ghostbusters Afterlife Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

162

1660

9.76%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

160

1937

8.26%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
738	97	18081	4.08%	15	93

 

AMCs sold	537
Cinemarks sold	104
Regals sold	68
Harkins sold	29

 

Wednesday:

Total

85

786

 

NTTD comp: 3.54M

F9 comp: 5.53M

[Inceptionzq]

On 11/14/2021 at 4:06 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Ghostbusters Afterlife Drafthouse

 

T-4 days Thursday(120 showings): 3129(+765)/18517(+102)

 

T-5 days Friday(116 showings): 2911(+794)/19152(+652)

 

T-6 days Saturday(136 showings): 3086(+970)/22652(+1369)

 

T-7 days Sunday(107 showings): 1527(+524)/17358(+808)

Ghostbusters Afterlife Drafthouse

 

T-3 days Thursday(138 showings): 3450(+321)/20413(+1896)

 

T-4 days Friday(116 showings): 3333(+422)/19152

 

T-5 days Saturday(137 showings): 3468(+382)/22778(+126)

 

T-6 days Sunday(105 showings): 1730(+203)/16981(-377)

[Inceptionzq]

Megaplex is having problems again, so I'll have to switch back to the first version of my scrapper. Requires a bit of setup, so I'll have the numbers tomorrow.

[Porthos]

13 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

Not yet, no.

 

Wouldn't be surprised to see them go on sale in a few hours tho.

 

32 minutes ago, Blaze Heatnix said:

 

 

 

(@Krissykins)

((wasn't a great feeat of soothsaying, mind, but I'll take it))

[Eric Duncan]

On 11/14/2021 at 11:25 PM, Eric the Big Red Dog said:

Ghostbusters: Afterlife Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-4 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	68	893	15113	5.91%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 91

 

Comp

0.637x of F9 T-4 (4.52M)

1.474x of The Suicide Squad T-4 (6.04M)

0.450x of Shang-Chi T-4 (3.96M)

0.626x of Venom 2 T-4 (7.26M)

0.676x of No Time to Die T-4 (4.26M)

Ghostbusters: Afterlife Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	69	1048	15204	6.89%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 1

Total Seats Added Today: 91

Total Seats Sold Today: 155

 

Comp

0.647x of F9 T-3 (4.6M)

1.414x of The Suicide Squad T-3 (5.8M)

0.455x of Shang-Chi T-3 (4.01M)

0.596x of Venom 2 T-3 (6.91M)

0.672x of No Time to Die T-3 (4.23M)

[Eric Duncan]

King Richard Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Monday Before Release

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	47	211	7989	2.64%

 

Comp

0.175x of Space Jam 2 Monday Before Release (2.29M)

7.276x of Respect Monday Before Release (4.73M)

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

Warner Bros really dropped the ball, man. We've repeated that all year but still... a crowdpleasing Will Smith movie about the Williams sisters is going to open to what, 5m? I know he lost his muster recently but that seemed like such an easy hit with his Oscar buzz

[Eric Duncan]

On 11/14/2021 at 11:28 PM, Eric the Big Red Dog said:

Sing 2 Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-38 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	49	232	9354	2.48%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 15

Sing 2 Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-37 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	49	253	9354	2.70%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 21

[filmlover]

3 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

Warner Bros really dropped the ball, man. We've repeated that all year but still... a crowdpleasing Will Smith movie about the Williams sisters is going to open to what, 5m? I know he lost his muster recently but that seemed like such an easy hit with his Oscar buzz

HBO Max and the woes of the adult drama in the COVID era at work. I feel like no one would be surprised if West Side Story makes less than $50M total at this point.

[Legion Again]

3 minutes ago, filmlover said:

HBO Max and the woes of the adult drama in the COVID era at work. I feel like no one would be surprised if West Side Story makes less than $50M total at this point.

It’s got a miserable release date, I won’t be shocked shocked shocked if it goes below ITH 

[Legion Again]

I was actually thinking Eric’s numbers looked pretty good, but odd choice of comps. Then I remembered it’s philly.

[filmlover]

10 minutes ago, Eternal Legion said:

It’s got a miserable release date, I won’t be shocked shocked shocked if it goes below ITH 

I don't think the release date is as much of an issue since the audience overlap with the big movies of Christmas isn't overly severe (an adaptation of an iconic musical doubling up as a remake to a 60 year old movie seems unlikely to draw many young crowds, especially with nonexistent starpower among the cast) and in normal times it would play throughout the holidays. The real hurdle it faces is the fact its target audience isn't coming back to theaters for anything for the most part.

Edited November 16, 2021 by filmlover