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House of Gucci, counted yesterday at 11 am EST for Tuesday, November 23:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 16 (2 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24):
so far no showtimes
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18):
2 (1 showtime)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 0 (1 showtime)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 0 (1 showtime)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16):
64 (2 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 85 (4 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 6 theaters: 167.

Comps: Hustlers (33.2M OW) had 7 days before its previews 317 sold tickets in 7 theaters (= 2 days left for HoG to come closer).


House of Gucci, counted yesterday at 11 am EST for Wednesday, November 24:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 20 (4 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24):
so far no showtimes
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18):
2 (2 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 0 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 3 (2 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16):
44 (5 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 13 (10 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 6 theaters: 82.

 

Comps: Hustlers had 8 days before 385 sold tickets in 7 theaters for Friday (= also 2 days left for HoG to come closer),
Last Night in Soho (4.2M OW) had on Monday of its release week 126 sold tickets in 6 theaters for Friday (= 6 days left for HoG to overtake)

and Respect (8.8M OW) had on Wednesday of its release week (I have no earlier numbers) 129 sold tickets in 7 theaters for Friday (8 days left for HoG to overtake).
 

With that cast and not too few talking here in this forum I was surprised that the boxofficepro prediction isn't higher (at the moment 8-13M 3-day OW). I know it's another adult-driven drama but I would say its presales look quite good at the moment, especially for Tuesday.

G:A, counted today at 10am EST for Thursday, November 18:

 

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 167 (6 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24):
45 (2 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18):
73 (2 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 24 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 30 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16):
201 (7 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 396 (8 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 936.

Comps (both counted on Monday for Thursday and in 7 theaters): Terminator: Dark Fate (29.0M OW, 2.35M from previews) had 709 sold tickets = 3.1M

and TSS (4.1M) had 1.385 sold tickets = 2.8M.
I guess both comps make it look worse than it is because T6 had a R-Rating and TSS was on HBO Max. Would add at least 1M to the numbers above.

 

G:A, counted today at 10am EST for Friday, November 19:
 

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 166 (9 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24):
21 (3 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18):
58 (2 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 18 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 17 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16):
128 (8 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 106 (12 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 514.

Comps (all counted on Monday for Friday and in 7 theaters): T6 (8.25M true Friday) had 1.074 sold tickets = 4M,
TSS
(8.0M) had 940 sold tickets = 4.4M. Both films didn't have big jumps in their last week and - as mentioned above - are probably too unfriendly as comps.
Jungle Cruise (10.8M) had 357 sold tickets =
15.55M. That film had good jumps.

It concerns me that the sales for Friday are still much lower than for Thursday but with good WOM that is maybe not too important.
And
maybe it behaves more like JC, also jump-wise.

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4 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

Really depends on what you're looking for, but usually the most important takeaway for just a casual glance is the comp.  More on that in a bit.

 

But even that is highly dependent on a movie being either in a similar genre or having a similar pre-sale pattern as folks will buy tickets at different times during a pre-sale window thanks to a very long list of factors.

 

Add in that movies will have different promotional schedules during their pre-sales (review embargoes, TV campaigns, fan events, and so on) and even films in similar genres can be difficult to look at just the comp.

 

Anywho to give one of my recent ones as an example:

 

 

This is saying that Ghostbusters: Afterlife has sold 32% more tickets than The Suicide Squad  did at this point in its sales.  If it continued to sell 32% more tickets each and every day until the end, the preview number would be 5.43m.

 

On the other hand, it's also saying that G:A has sold 41% of the tickets that Shang-Chi had at this point, which if it repeated that would point to 3.64m in previews.

 

And so on and so on.

 

For a film like Ghostbusters: Afterlife where we probably don't have a great comp (comedies usually have folks buy their tickets close to release BUT this is a property that is heavily nostalgia based with a turbulent recent history), a lot of us are just using a bunch of different recent movies to try to nail down an upper and lower range.

 

As we get closer to release, that range will narrow and on the actual day of release we should have a pretty decent idea of where this will land.

 

Other folks format their reports differently but nearly all of us do some version of "Comped movie had sold X amount of tickets at that point in time which would mean Y amount of dollars for this film".  Everything else is just nerdy details for the more obsessive folks here who like the extra information. :)

 

Hope this helps explain some of the things.

Ive wondered is there a database (other than this thread lol) where I can find quick comp numbers at a glance? I know some people just keep their own records of day by day of each film and just look back at it in their files. I don't do nearly that, and don't have numbers in my files. Just wondering any suggestion for quick references, or just "dig through the thread"?

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10 minutes ago, Tinalera said:

Ive wondered is there a database (other than this thread lol) where I can find quick comp numbers at a glance? I know some people just keep their own records of day by day of each film and just look back at it in their files. I don't do nearly that, and don't have numbers in my files. Just wondering any suggestion for quick references, or just "dig through the thread"?

 

No, there's no central database on this forum or elsewhere for that. 

 

I have a day-by-day masterlist of all the movies I've fully tracked that goes back years on my home computer, but that's about it.  I presume others are doing something similar, either on their own home computers/tablets or on various cloud services.

 

Probably too many of us who report things in different ways to really make a standardized central database for us to consult (not to mention tracking different movies, or not tracking it each and every day).

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On 11/14/2021 at 3:54 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Ghostbusters Afterlife Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total 144 1660 8.67%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 136 1937 7.02%

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST 4 DAYS TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
641 177 18081 3.55% 15 93

 

Wednesday:

Total 71 786

 

NTTD comp: 3.67M

F9 comp: 5.45M

 

Looks like it's in a decent spot right now, but let's see how much it ramps up this week. The F9 comp will probably drop quite a bit over the last few days

Ghostbusters Afterlife Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total 162 1660 9.76%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 160 1937 8.26%

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
738 97 18081 4.08% 15 93

 

AMCs sold 537
Cinemarks sold 104
Regals sold 68
Harkins sold 29

 

Wednesday:

Total 85 786

 

NTTD comp: 3.54M

F9 comp: 5.53M

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On 11/14/2021 at 4:06 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Ghostbusters Afterlife Drafthouse

 

T-4 days Thursday(120 showings): 3129(+765)/18517(+102)

 

T-5 days Friday(116 showings): 2911(+794)/19152(+652)

 

T-6 days Saturday(136 showings): 3086(+970)/22652(+1369)

 

T-7 days Sunday(107 showings): 1527(+524)/17358(+808)

Ghostbusters Afterlife Drafthouse

 

T-3 days Thursday(138 showings): 3450(+321)/20413(+1896)

 

T-4 days Friday(116 showings): 3333(+422)/19152

 

T-5 days Saturday(137 showings): 3468(+382)/22778(+126)

 

T-6 days Sunday(105 showings): 1730(+203)/16981(-377)

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On 11/14/2021 at 11:25 PM, Eric the Big Red Dog said:

Ghostbusters: Afterlife Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-4 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 68 893 15113 5.91%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 91

 

Comp

0.637x of F9 T-4 (4.52M)

1.474x of The Suicide Squad T-4 (6.04M)

0.450x of Shang-Chi T-4 (3.96M)

0.626x of Venom 2 T-4 (7.26M)

0.676x of No Time to Die T-4 (4.26M)

Ghostbusters: Afterlife Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 69 1048 15204 6.89%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 1

Total Seats Added Today: 91

Total Seats Sold Today: 155

 

Comp

0.647x of F9 T-3 (4.6M)

1.414x of The Suicide Squad T-3 (5.8M)

0.455x of Shang-Chi T-3 (4.01M)

0.596x of Venom 2 T-3 (6.91M)

0.672x of No Time to Die T-3 (4.23M)

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King Richard Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Monday Before Release

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 47 211 7989 2.64%

 

Comp

0.175x of Space Jam 2 Monday Before Release (2.29M)

7.276x of Respect Monday Before Release (4.73M)

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On 11/14/2021 at 11:28 PM, Eric the Big Red Dog said:

Sing 2 Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-38 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 49 232 9354 2.48%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 15

Sing 2 Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-37 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 49 253 9354 2.70%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 21

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3 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

Warner Bros really dropped the ball, man. We've repeated that all year but still... a crowdpleasing Will Smith movie about the Williams sisters is going to open to what, 5m? I know he lost his muster recently but that seemed like such an easy hit with his Oscar buzz

HBO Max and the woes of the adult drama in the COVID era at work. I feel like no one would be surprised if West Side Story makes less than $50M total at this point.

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3 minutes ago, filmlover said:

HBO Max and the woes of the adult drama in the COVID era at work. I feel like no one would be surprised if West Side Story makes less than $50M total at this point.

It’s got a miserable release date, I won’t be shocked shocked shocked if it goes below ITH 

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10 minutes ago, Eternal Legion said:

It’s got a miserable release date, I won’t be shocked shocked shocked if it goes below ITH 

I don't think the release date is as much of an issue since the audience overlap with the big movies of Christmas isn't overly severe (an adaptation of an iconic musical doubling up as a remake to a 60 year old movie seems unlikely to draw many young crowds, especially with nonexistent starpower among the cast) and in normal times it would play throughout the holidays. The real hurdle it faces is the fact its target audience isn't coming back to theaters for anything for the most part.

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