The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Legion Again]

9 minutes ago, Cap said:

(Deletes my fury of crumbling memes I had cued up)

[Porthos]

11 minutes ago, Cap said:

(Deletes my fury of crumbling memes I had cued up)

 

23 hours ago, Eric Madrigal said:

Spider-Man: No Way Home Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-14 and Counting

Total Seats Sold Today: 858

 

4 minutes ago, Eric Madrigal said:

Spider-Man: No Way Home Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-13 and Counting

Total Seats Sold Today: 583

 

 

[Cap]

7 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

 

 

 

oh no it’s only going to make 199M. What are we all going to do?! 
 

[Menor the Destroyer]

Spider-Man No Way Home MTC2

 

Thursday:

 

Showtimes: 5361

Seats Sold: 325502/731184

$ Sales: 4203073

 

Friday:

 

Showtimes: 6018

Seats Sold: 243375/900832

$ Sales: 2929001

 

Will edit post with Friday numbers later. I do feel like something is a little off with the numbers relative to earlier (just some strange patterns in the relative distribution of sales that shouldn't have changed much from my earlier runs) but who knows. I would go with the regional comps for now as they seem to be in good convergence. This is from all theaters btw. 

Edited December 4, 2021 by Menor

[XXR vs XXR]

On 12/1/2021 at 11:50 PM, keysersoze123 said:

Spider-man No Way Home MTC2

Previews(T-15) -  326221/786783 4220884.58 5418 shows +33081

Friday(T-16) -      245668/964001 2963908.30 6225 shows +33525

Saturday(T-17) - 166676/981947 1988769.52 6370 shows +28321

 

Another crazy strong day. No signs of slowing down so far. 

 

3 minutes ago, Menor said:

Spider-Man No Way Home MTC2

 

Thursday:

 

Showtimes: 5361

Seats Sold: 325502/731184

$ Sales: 4203073

 

Will edit post with Friday numbers later. I do feel like something is a little off with the numbers relative to earlier (just some strange patterns in the relative distribution of sales that shouldn't have changed much from my earlier runs) but who knows. I would go with the regional comps for now as they seem to be in good convergence. This is from all theaters btw. 

 

Yea definitely something up one way or the other, since tickets sold/sales/showtimes are lower on this run than Keyser's 2 days ago and seat count went down 50k. 

 

[Menor the Destroyer]

1 minute ago, VenomXXR said:

 

 

Yea definitely something up one way or the other, since tickets sold/sales/showtimes are lower on this run than Keyser's 2 days ago and seat count went down 50k. 

 

One thing is MTC2 may be removing sellouts from their site altogether. Two days ago I had 30+ sellouts counted, now only 8. So something is up there. 

[charlie Jatinder]

I actually think 325K now is the correct no. 3rd day felt very unlikely back then to me.

 

Trend of Sacramento and Harkins suggest 325K would be correct no.

 

Sacramento First 4 days
13,279
1,361
628
511

 

Harkins

29680
3066
1539
1318

 

It didn't made sense that day 3 in MTC 2 was par day 2. 50% drop was universal in our regionals, especially these two South West regional trackings, which is where MTC 2 has bulk of theaters.

Edited December 4, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[charlie Jatinder]

24 minutes ago, Menor said:

One thing is MTC2 may be removing sellouts from their site altogether. Two days ago I had 30+ sellouts counted, now only 8. So something is up there. 

People change seats from bottom row of sold out shows to newer shows. I am seeing this a lot in Harkins. Very filled shows gets seats reduced and newer show around it gain those.

[Flopped]

Ok but where are today's numbers

[Porthos]

 

23 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

 No Way Home Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-14 Days and Counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	2	0	298	20647	36426	15779	43.32%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

511

 

As of T-14, No Way Home has sold...

1.7159x as many tickets as Black Widow  did at stop of tracking.             [23.71m]*

2.6986x as many tickets as Shang-Chi did at stop of tracking.                 [23.74m]

2.0460x as many tickets as Let There Be Carnage did at stop of tracking. [23.73m]

2.4620x as many tickets as Eternals did at stop of tracking.                     [23.39m]

* [adj for Ontario]

 

Day 4 Adjusted Comp 

[Made under official protest]  [100% use at own risk — see cautionary note below]

	%		Sold Day 3	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
EG	83.32		350	16998		7/221	6026/23024	73.83%		49.99m
NWH (adj)	---		455	14162		0/298	17314/31476	44.99%		---

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: NWH (adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include DBOX tracking which started earlier this year, a theater which converted to reserved seating this year as well as making an on-the-fly adjustment for a theater which I had partial data for EG and has now shut down and been replaced by another theater a mile a way [for this I am doing only a PLF-PLF comparison for the theater in question]

CAUTIONARY 2021 COMPS NOTE:  ***ALL*** Sacramento 2021 comps when compared to similar pre-COVID movies have been running higher than what has actually been reported.  ABSOLUTELY KEEP THIS IN MIND THAT THIS COMP COULD VERY WELL BE OFF BY AS MUCH AS 10 to 15 PERCENT, or even more. 

 

Regal:       4177/12528 [33.34% sold] [+142 tickets]

Matinee:    1458/5023  [29.03% | 9.24% of all tickets sold]

 

EXTREME GRAIN OF SALT DUE TO MYRAID IRRITANTS COMPS: (behind spoiler cut for space)

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1.4308x TROS after approx 100 hours of TROS sales [57.23m]

1.0860x TROS at T-14                                              [43.44m]

0.7779x Endgame at T-14                                        [46.68m]

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Switching over to T-x comps starting tomorrow as, as I suspected it might this morning, the calendar compression is already starting to rear its head versus Endgame (well that and the sheer amount of available showtimes).

 

Also, as noted in my last post, accidentally put down the wrong number of sales for NWH yesterday.  Corrected the number in the quote and in the old post.

 

 No Way Home Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-13 Days and Counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	2	0	308	21367	37552	16185	43.10%

 

Total Showings Added Today	10
Total Seats Added Today	1126
Total Seats Sold Today	406

 

As of T-13, No Way Home has sold...

1.7600x as many tickets as Black Widow  did at stop of tracking.             [24.33m]*

2.7681x as many tickets as Shang-Chi did at stop of tracking.                 [24.36m]

2.0987x as many tickets as Let There Be Carnage did at stop of tracking. [24.34m]

2.5254x as many tickets as Eternals did at stop of tracking.                     [23.99m]

* [adj for Ontario]

 

Day 5 Adjusted Comp 

[Made under official protest]  [100% use at own risk — see cautionary note below]

	%		Sold Day 5	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
EG	84.10		247	17245		8/221	5779/23024	74.90%		50.46m
NWH (adj)	---		341	14503		0/308	18084/32587	44.51%		---

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: NWH (adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include DBOX tracking which started earlier this year, a theater which converted to reserved seating this year as well as making an on-the-fly adjustment for a theater which I had partial data for EG and has now shut down and been replaced by another theater a mile a way [for this I am doing only a PLF-PLF comparison for the theater in question]

CAUTIONARY 2021 COMPS NOTE:  ***ALL*** Sacramento 2021 comps when compared to similar pre-COVID movies have been running higher than what has actually been reported.  ABSOLUTELY KEEP THIS IN MIND THAT THIS COMP COULD VERY WELL BE OFF BY AS MUCH AS 10 to 15 PERCENT, or even more. 

 

Regal:       4284/12528 [34.20% sold] [+107 tickets]

Matinee:    1504/5023  [29.94% | 9.29% of all tickets sold]

 

EXTREME GRAIN OF SALT DUE TO MYRAID IRRITANTS COMPS:

1.0885x TROS at T-13                                              [43.54m]

0.7898x Endgame at T-13                                        [47.39m]

 

Edited December 4, 2021 by Porthos

[XXR vs XXR]

@Porthos Question, what do you think is a safe estimate at this point that Sacto NWH sales should be able to do? T-13 V2 was at 970 tickets vs final V2 at 7842, a 6872 ticket difference. 

Obviously I'm trying not to comp outside of the last few months and V2 seems like that best option to me, but in the same time period EG did +5797  and TROS did +5388.

 

Personally I'm thinking +10,000-12,000 from now until your final report. 

 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2021 by VenomXXR

[filmlover]

Don't know when this was announced but A Journal for Jordan is having early showings at a lot of theaters at 7 tonight.

[katnisscinnaplex]

On 12/3/2021 at 9:02 AM, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-1 Hr	Black Widow	Jacksonville	6	76	12,095	2,333	555	19.29%
		Phoenix	7	77	10,692	1,881	270	17.59%
		Raleigh	8	74	8,303	3,148	746	37.91%
	Black Widow Total		21	227	31,090	7,362	1,571	23.68%
T-1 Hr	Eternals	Jacksonville	6	72	10,311	1,811	526	17.56%
		Phoenix	7	59	8,999	1,848	320	20.54%
		Raleigh	8	37	4,098	1,713	380	41.80%
	Eternals Total		21	168	23,408	5,372	1,226	22.95%
T-1 Hr	Shang-Chi	Jacksonville	6	60	8,619	1,423	493	16.51%
		Phoenix	7	51	7,193	1,349	262	18.75%
		Raleigh	8	40	4,505	1,327	332	29.46%
	Shang-Chi Total		21	151	20,317	4,099	1,087	20.18%
T-13	Spider-Man	Jacksonville	7	154	22,299	5,228	246	23.44%
		Phoenix	6	121	18,441	7,267	401	39.41%
		Raleigh	8	75	8,780	4,862	242	55.38%
	Spider-Man Total		21	350	49,520	17,357	889	35.05%

 

Well this looks almost identical to yesterday's report.  Four new shows were added and it beat yesterday's sales by two.  While that's a lower % increase, it's still impressive that sales haven't slowed too much yet.  I did get to thinking today that the newest Cinemark in Jacksonville wasn't opened until after Shang-Chi.  Here are the comparisons with the same theater list (though one would have to assume Eternals and Spider-Man would be doing better in the other Jacksonville theaters if there wasn't a brand new Cinemark there.)

 

 

 

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-1 Hr	Black Widow	Jacksonville	6	76	12,095	2,333	555	19.29%
T-1 Hr	Eternals	Jacksonville	5	57	8,821	1,417	408	16.06%
T-1 Hr	Shang-Chi	Jacksonville	6	60	8,619	1,423	493	16.51%
T-13	Spider-Man	Jacksonville	6	125	19,555	4,478	199	22.90%

 

Crazy how those six theaters have already given Spider-Man 49 more shows that BW ended with and are still at a higher % sold.  

 

T-13 increase % comps

 

Spider - 5.4%

BW - 7.55%

SC - 11.79%

Venom 2 - 15.37%

 

Total sales

 

Spider-Man - $233,246 (13.44 ATP)

 

Black Widow Final - $94,329 (12.81 ATP)

Eternals Final - $74,356 (13.84 ATP)

Shang-Chi Final - $54,954 (13.41 ATP)

 

Splits

 

 

Movie	Mat	Sold	%	Sales	ATP
Spider-Man	N	15,164	87.37%	$209,175.35	13.79
	Y	2,193	12.63%	$24,071.17	10.98
Grand Total		17,357	100.00%	$233,246.52	13.44

 

 

Movie	Format	Sold	%	Sales	ATP
Spider-Man	PLF	6,702	38.61%	$108,348.72	16.17
	Standard	10,655	61.39%	$124,897.80	11.72
Grand Total		17,357	100.00%	$233,246.52	13.44

 

Full showtime report coming a little later, so I'll leave that off for now.  

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-1 Hr	Black Widow	Jacksonville	6	76	12,095	2,333	555	19.29%
		Phoenix	7	77	10,692	1,881	270	17.59%
		Raleigh	8	74	8,303	3,148	746	37.91%
	Black Widow Total		21	227	31,090	7,362	1,571	23.68%
T-1 Hr	Eternals	Jacksonville	6	72	10,311	1,811	526	17.56%
		Phoenix	7	59	8,999	1,848	320	20.54%
		Raleigh	8	37	4,098	1,713	380	41.80%
	Eternals Total		21	168	23,408	5,372	1,226	22.95%
T-1 Hr	Shang-Chi	Jacksonville	6	60	8,619	1,423	493	16.51%
		Phoenix	7	51	7,193	1,349	262	18.75%
		Raleigh	8	40	4,505	1,327	332	29.46%
	Shang-Chi Total		21	151	20,317	4,099	1,087	20.18%
T-12	Spider-Man	Jacksonville	7	154	22,299	5,449	221	24.44%
		Phoenix	6	127	18,687	7,504	237	40.16%
		Raleigh	8	76	8,925	5,031	169	56.37%
	Spider-Man Total		21	357	49,911	17,984	627	36.03%

 

Seven new shows added but sales are slowing down.  There were seven or eight shows that went down 5-10 in sales; not sure if those people were moving to other shows, a different day, or cancelling altogether but new sales looked better without those.  The good news is that all of the comps had a similar slow down on this day.  

 

T-12 increase % comps

 

Spider - 3.61%

BW - 4.51%

SC - 6.75%

Venom 2 - 10.88%

 

Total sales

 

Spider-Man - $241,526 (13.43 ATP)

 

Black Widow Final - $94,329 (12.81 ATP)

Eternals Final - $74,356 (13.84 ATP)

Shang-Chi Final - $54,954 (13.41 ATP)

 

Splits

 

Movie	Mat	Sold	%	Sales	ATP
Spider-Man	N	15,739	87.52%	$216,917.82	13.78
	Y	2,245	12.48%	$24,608.48	10.96
Grand Total		17,984	100.00%	$241,526.30	13.43

 

Movie	Format	Sold	%	Sales	ATP
Spider-Man	PLF	6,869	38.20%	$111,154.46	16.18
	Standard	11,115	61.80%	$130,371.84	11.73
Grand Total		17,984	100.00%	$241,526.30	13.43

 

US showtimes sample is up to 26,730 in 2,849 theaters with 4,821 PLF shows.

 

Show time splits

 

Time	Shows	%
3:00	2,192	8.20%
3:01-3:59	2,201	8.23%
4:00-4:59	3,397	12.71%
5:00-5:59	2,232	8.35%
6:00-6:59	3,433	12.84%
7:00-7:59	4,373	16.36%
8:00-8:59	2,749	10.28%
9:00-9:59	2,263	8.47%
10:00-10:59	2,554	9.56%
11:00+	1,335	4.99%

 

[katnisscinnaplex]

35 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Don't know when this was announced but A Journal for Jordan is having early showings at a lot of theaters at 7 tonight.

 

Just took a look - I'm seeing 222 theaters with a show tonight

[XXR vs XXR]

7 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Total sales

 

Spider-Man - $241,526 (13.43 ATP)

 

Black Widow Final - $94,329 (12.81 ATP)

Eternals Final - $74,356 (13.84 ATP)

Shang-Chi Final - $54,954 (13.41 ATP)

 

Would you happen to know previews ATP for TROS or Endgame? 

[katnisscinnaplex]

2 minutes ago, VenomXXR said:

 

Would you happen to know previews ATP for TROS or Endgame? 

 

Unfortunately I didn't start tracking until this year so this is the best I've got

[keysersoze123]

I think based on shows removed and errors seen at MTC2 its close to 350K.

 

Unfortunately usual way of scrapping MTC1 is done. But it's possible to use Selenium though it will take like 12 hours and system becomes unusable with popping windows. But MTC1 will not disappoint. It's looking YUGE.

 

Edit: Never mind. its failing now. They are blocking all my calls. So no data for today. 

Edited December 4, 2021 by keysersoze123

[XXR vs XXR]

1 minute ago, keysersoze123 said:

But MTC1 will not disappoint. It's looking YUGE.

Good to know! Makes sense given they (MTC1) said 1st day sales where within 1.5% of EG. Wonder if it could be bigger than EG at this point given the closer-to-release window for NWH? 

 

[charlie Jatinder]

30 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

The good news is that all of the comps had a similar slow down on this day.

Weekend usually see pre-sales drop for future films.

[Ronin46]

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