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1 hour ago, Product Driven Legion said:

#technicallyAccelerationDefinitelyHighlyMeaningful

? what do you mean ? You were right by the way spideys current sales arent very bottomy, they are still pretty high though it must of course  accelerate again soon.

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22 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day Movie Area Theaters Shows Total Seats Total Sold New Sales % Sold
T-1 Hr Black Widow Jacksonville 6 76 12,095 2,333 555 19.29%
    Phoenix 7 77 10,692 1,881 270 17.59%
    Raleigh 8 74 8,303 3,148 746 37.91%
  Black Widow Total   21 227 31,090 7,362 1,571 23.68%
T-1 Hr Eternals Jacksonville 6 72 10,311 1,811 526 17.56%
    Phoenix 7 59 8,999 1,848 320 20.54%
    Raleigh 8 37 4,098 1,713 380 41.80%
  Eternals Total   21 168 23,408 5,372 1,226 22.95%
T-1 Hr Shang-Chi Jacksonville 6 60 8,619 1,423 493 16.51%
    Phoenix 7 51 7,193 1,349 262 18.75%
    Raleigh 8 40 4,505 1,327 332 29.46%
  Shang-Chi Total   21 151 20,317 4,099 1,087 20.18%
T-9 Spider-Man Jacksonville 7 154 22,299 5,959 160 26.72%
    Phoenix 6 129 18,854 8,080 199 42.86%
    Raleigh 8 76 8,925 5,387 117 60.36%
  Spider-Man Total   21 359 50,078 19,426 476 38.79%

 

Really leveled out - last three days have been 477, 480 and 476 in new sales.  

 

T-9 increase % comps

 

Spider - 2.51%

BW - 5.15%

SC - 13.62%

Eternals - 7.44%

Venom 2 - 6.98%

 

Total sales

 

Spider-Man - $259,782 (13.37 ATP)

 

Black Widow Final - $94,329 (12.81 ATP)

Eternals Final - $74,356 (13.84 ATP)

Shang-Chi Final - $54,954 (13.41 ATP)

 

ATP continues to decrease daily as standard and matinee sales outperform PLF

 

Splits

 

Movie Mat Sold % Sales ATP
Spider-Man N 16,956 87.29% $232,839.22 13.73
  Y 2,470 12.71% $26,943.62 10.91

 

 

Movie Format Sold % Sales ATP
Spider-Man PLF 7,235 37.24% $116,978.78 16.17
  Standard 12,191 62.76% $142,804.06 11.71

 

 

Movie Chain Sold % Sales ATP
Spider-Man AMC 11,738 60.42% $152,002.40 12.95
  Cinemark 5,077 26.14% $73,079.36 14.39
  CMX 24 0.12% $359.76 14.99
  Regal 2,416 12.44% $32,503.07 13.45
  Sun-Ray 171 0.88% $1,838.25 10.75

Day Movie Area Theaters Shows Total Seats Total Sold New Sales % Sold
T-1 Hr Black Widow Jacksonville 6 76 12,095 2,333 555 19.29%
    Phoenix 7 77 10,692 1,881 270 17.59%
    Raleigh 8 74 8,303 3,148 746 37.91%
  Black Widow Total   21 227 31,090 7,362 1,571 23.68%
T-1 Hr Eternals Jacksonville 6 72 10,311 1,811 526 17.56%
    Phoenix 7 59 8,999 1,848 320 20.54%
    Raleigh 8 37 4,098 1,713 380 41.80%
  Eternals Total   21 168 23,408 5,372 1,226 22.95%
T-1 Hr Shang-Chi Jacksonville 6 60 8,619 1,423 493 16.51%
    Phoenix 7 51 7,193 1,349 262 18.75%
    Raleigh 8 40 4,505 1,327 332 29.46%
  Shang-Chi Total   21 151 20,317 4,099 1,087 20.18%
T-8 Spider-Man Jacksonville 7 157 22,875 6,170 211 26.97%
    Phoenix 7 156 20,620 8,389 309 40.68%
    Raleigh 8 90 10,497 5,529 142 52.67%
  Spider-Man Total   22 403 53,992 20,088 662 37.21%

 

Added 41 shows and nearly 4k seats since yesterday, including the final theater in my sample at 12 shows.  Not too surprising then that sales had a pretty good bump as more shows became available.  There's still plenty of room in those shows so maybe the pace will hold a little higher for a couple of days.

 

T-8 increase % comps

 

Spider - 3.41%

BW - 6.77%

SC - 11.37%

Eternals - 7.54%

Venom 2 - 9.44%

 

Total sales

 

Spider-Man - $267,930 (13.34 ATP)

 

Black Widow Final - $94,329 (12.81 ATP)

Eternals Final - $74,356 (13.84 ATP)

Shang-Chi Final - $54,954 (13.41 ATP)

 

Splits

 

Movie Mat Sold % Sales ATP
Spider-Man N 17,512 87.18% $239,753.82 13.69
  Y 2,576 12.82% $28,176.57 10.94

 

Movie Format Sold % Sales ATP
Spider-Man PLF 7,328 36.48% $118,492.88 16.17
  Standard 12,760 63.52% $149,437.51 11.71

 

Movie Chain Sold % Sales ATP
Spider-Man AMC 12,041 59.94% $155,644.99 12.93
  Cinemark 5,208 25.93% $74,890.28 14.38
  CMX 24 0.12% $359.76 14.99
  Regal 2,528 12.58% $33,960.91 13.43
  RoadHouse 107 0.53% $1,139.45 10.65
  Sun-Ray 180 0.90% $1,935.00 10.75

 

Showtimes

 

Since last check on Monday morning, Spider-Man has added over 1100 preview shows and is now at 29,032 in 2,989 theaters in my sample.  That includes 1,037 IMAX shows and 2,471 3D shows; 5,372 total PLF shows. Breakdown by chain:

 

A - 8,039 (585 TC)

C - 5,654 (311 TC)

R - 4,593 (440 TC)

 

Time Shows %
3:00 2,291 7.89%
3:01-3:59 2,408 8.29%
4:00-4:59 3,641 12.54%
5:00-5:59 2,424 8.35%
6:00-6:59 3,714 12.79%
7:00-7:59 4,748 16.35%
8:00-8:59 2,993 10.31%
9:00-9:59 2,509 8.64%
10:00-10:59 2,794 9.62%
11:00+ 1,510 5.20%
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14 hours ago, Multiverse of XXR said:


I just checked and it’s at 53 shows for Thursday. I wonder if they added 11 more or your scraper is dropping 11 shows for some reason.

This morning

 

Empire - 5841/10685 118065.39 53 shows. 

 

New shows are all 2d shows mostly before 6PM or crazy late shows. Combined sales across 11 shows is 29 tickets. So that has not moved the needle that much for Empire. 

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6 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day Movie Area Theaters Shows Total Seats Total Sold New Sales % Sold
T-1 Hr Black Widow Jacksonville 6 76 12,095 2,333 555 19.29%
    Phoenix 7 77 10,692 1,881 270 17.59%
    Raleigh 8 74 8,303 3,148 746 37.91%
  Black Widow Total   21 227 31,090 7,362 1,571 23.68%
T-1 Hr Eternals Jacksonville 6 72 10,311 1,811 526 17.56%
    Phoenix 7 59 8,999 1,848 320 20.54%
    Raleigh 8 37 4,098 1,713 380 41.80%
  Eternals Total   21 168 23,408 5,372 1,226 22.95%
T-1 Hr Shang-Chi Jacksonville 6 60 8,619 1,423 493 16.51%
    Phoenix 7 51 7,193 1,349 262 18.75%
    Raleigh 8 40 4,505 1,327 332 29.46%
  Shang-Chi Total   21 151 20,317 4,099 1,087 20.18%
T-8 Spider-Man Jacksonville 7 157 22,875 6,170 211 26.97%
    Phoenix 7 156 20,620 8,389 309 40.68%
    Raleigh 8 90 10,497 5,529 142 52.67%
  Spider-Man Total   22 403 53,992 20,088 662 37.21%

 

Added 41 shows and nearly 4k seats since yesterday, including the final theater in my sample at 12 shows.  Not too surprising then that sales had a pretty good bump as more shows became available.  There's still plenty of room in those shows so maybe the pace will hold a little higher for a couple of days.

 

T-8 increase % comps

 

Spider - 3.41%

BW - 6.77%

SC - 11.37%

Eternals - 7.54%

Venom 2 - 9.44%

 

Total sales

 

Spider-Man - $267,930 (13.34 ATP)

 

Black Widow Final - $94,329 (12.81 ATP)

Eternals Final - $74,356 (13.84 ATP)

Shang-Chi Final - $54,954 (13.41 ATP)

 

Splits

 

 

Movie Mat Sold % Sales ATP
Spider-Man N 17,512 87.18% $239,753.82 13.69
  Y 2,576 12.82% $28,176.57 10.94

 

 

Movie Format Sold % Sales ATP
Spider-Man PLF 7,328 36.48% $118,492.88 16.17
  Standard 12,760 63.52% $149,437.51 11.71

 

 

Movie Chain Sold % Sales ATP
Spider-Man AMC 12,041 59.94% $155,644.99 12.93
  Cinemark 5,208 25.93% $74,890.28 14.38
  CMX 24 0.12% $359.76 14.99
  Regal 2,528 12.58% $33,960.91 13.43
  RoadHouse 107 0.53% $1,139.45 10.65
  Sun-Ray 180 0.90% $1,935.00 10.75

 

Showtimes

 

Since last check on Monday morning, Spider-Man has added over 1100 preview shows and is now at 29,032 in 2,989 theaters in my sample.  That includes 1,037 IMAX shows and 2,471 3D shows; 5,372 total PLF shows. Breakdown by chain:

 

A: 8,039 (585 TC)

😄 5,654 (311 TC)

R: 4,593 (440 TC)

 

Time Shows %
3:00 2,291 7.89%
3:01-3:59 2,408 8.29%
4:00-4:59 3,641 12.54%
5:00-5:59 2,424 8.35%
6:00-6:59 3,714 12.79%
7:00-7:59 4,748 16.35%
8:00-8:59 2,993 10.31%
9:00-9:59 2,509 8.64%
10:00-10:59 2,794 9.62%
11:00+ 1,510 5.20%

Can you check for Friday show count as well. 

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6 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

I'm seeing 583 already listed for Wednesday.  Trying to get a jump start on Spider-Man

They know it's going to get squeezed that Thursday due to Spidey demand taking over every theater cause it looks like it's not having Thursday previews. Ironic that The Matrix is the only movie opening within close proximity of the 800-pound gorilla that won't be doing early screenings to try and generate some buzz (in large part because it's going to be available to watch at home before the first shows even start in all likelihood).

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22 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day Movie Area Theaters Shows Total Seats Total Sold New Sales % Sold
T-16 Matrix 4 (Wed) Jacksonville 6 33 5,931 171 61 2.88%
    Phoenix 6 18 2,924 225 70 7.69%
    Raleigh 8 29 3,544 259 106 7.31%
  Matrix 4 Total   19 80 12,399 655 237 5.28%
T-2 West Side Story Jacksonville 6 16 2,396 36 5 1.50%
    Phoenix 7 15 2,420 67 18 2.77%
    Raleigh 7 15 1,851 42 13 2.27%
  West Side Story Total   20 46 6,667 145 36 2.17%

 

Combining these into one post.  Shows are still up on Fandango so I'll continue to check.  

 

WSS comps

Evan Hansen - 1.33x (1.06m)

Respect - 2.04x (1.33m)

Gucci - .47x (614k)

Heights - .46x (458k)

 

Matrix comps

 

TSS - 2.81x (11.5m)

NTTD - 2.01x (10.45m)

Day Movie Area Theaters Shows Total Seats Total Sold New Sales % Sold
T-1 West Side Story Jacksonville 6 20 3,028 52 16 1.72%
    Phoenix 7 17 3,112 69 2 2.22%
    Raleigh 7 15 1,851 64 22 3.46%
  West Side Story Total   20 52 7,991 185 40 2.32%
T-15 Matrix 4 (Wed) Jacksonville 6 33 5,931 231 60 3.89%
    Phoenix 6 18 2,924 271 46 9.27%
    Raleigh 8 28 3,453 331 72 9.59%
  Matrix 4 (Wed) Total   19 79 12,308 833 178 6.77%

 

WSS comps

Evan Hansen - 1.28x (1.02m)

Respect - 1.76x (1.145m)

Gucci - .51x (663k)

Heights - .43x (429k)

 

Matrix comps

 

TSS - 3.51x (14.4m)

NTTD - 2.35x (12.24m)

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22 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

The showcount seems low there. Gotta be more shows than this right?

This was what I was able to fetch yesterday morning. That is why I asked @katnisscinnaplex to confirm. This will go up as we go along. I look for shows with reserved seating at 595 theaters. Whatever comes up I pick it up. I did not get data for 32 shows but that is a noise compared to overall show count. 

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6 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

This was what I was able to fetch yesterday. That is why I asked @katnisscinnaplex to confirm. This will go up as we go along. I look for shows with reserved seating at 595 theaters. Whatever comes up I pick it up. I did not get data for 32 shows but that is a noise compared to overall show count. 

I read Katniss post, that said 8K shows in MTC 1 for previews, I forget we don't get all of them. That is why I thought FRI must be way more than THU. Our gross numbers though are almost overall since we are taking adult ticket rates, and I guess that's fine.

 

BTW I know you are looking for shows at whole chain but how many of them are actually sending data is what really I mean to ask when I ask about theater count.

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14 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

I read Katniss post, that said 8K shows in MTC 1 for previews, I forget we don't get all of them. That is why I thought FRI must be way more than THU. Our gross numbers though are almost overall since we are taking adult ticket rates, and I guess that's fine.

 

BTW I know you are looking for shows at whole chain but how many of them are actually sending data is what really I mean to ask when I ask about theater count.

I got shows for 426 theaters for OD. Previews are there for 432. I think there was another big shows added yesterday evening that I missed. For previews I can see 7264 shows(added more than 600 shows yesterday). Unfortunately with this process taking for ever I cannot do a quick check :-( MTC1 used to return data under half hour even for this many shows. 

 

I manually checked empire and previews have 53 shows while OD have 51 shows. Plexes will add more screens for previews but have fewer screens for OD. 

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43 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Showtimes

 

Since last check on Monday morning, Spider-Man has added over 1100 preview shows and is now at 29,032 in 2,989 theaters in my sample.  That includes 1,037 IMAX shows and 2,471 3D shows; 5,372 total PLF shows. Breakdown by chain:

 

A - 8,039 (585 TC)

C - 5,654 (311 TC)

R - 4,593 (440 TC)

 

27 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

33,945 total, 6,701 PLF

 

A - 7,430 (587)

C - 6,426 (311)

R - 6,078 (440)

 

So C and R have more shows while A have fewer shows for now. That could change early next week as they weed out older movies. 

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On 12/5/2021 at 12:20 PM, katnisscinnaplex said:

Santikos Theaters tracking

 

Had some issues with Fandango yesterday and wasn't able to pull numbers.  New sales below are two days of sales.  I may wait until I see new shows being added before my next update.

 

 

Day Movie Format Shows New Sales* Total Sold True Capacity % Sold ATP Gross
T-11 Spider-Man PLF 38 60 7,024 8,388 83.74% $14.43 $101,381.38
    Standard 78 206 7,437 10,917 68.12% $10.96 $81,521.77
  Spider-Man Total   116 266 14,461 19,305 74.91% $12.65 $182,903.15
T-12 Spidey (Fri) PLF 56 287 6,927 12,379 55.96% $14.29 $98,975.95
    Standard 84 296 4,907 13,046 37.61% $10.62 $52,119.56
  Spidey (Fri) Total   140 583 11,834 25,425 46.54% $12.77 $151,095.51

 

Matinee splits

 

 

Day Movie Mat Shows New Sales Total Sold True Capacity % Sold ATP Gross
T-11 Spider-Man N 85 137 11,040 14,045 78.60% $13.45 $148,495.01
    Y 31 129 3,421 5,260 65.04% $10.06 $34,408.14
  Spider-Man Total   116 266 14,461 19,305 74.91% $12.65 $182,903.15
T-12 Spidey (Fri) N 71 245 8,407 13,419 62.65% $13.66 $114,823.23
    Y 69 338 3,427 12,006 28.54% $10.58 $36,272.28
  Spidey (Fri) Total   140 583 11,834 25,425 46.54% $12.77 $151,095.51

Santikos Theaters tracking

 

First update since Sunday morning, so new sales are really three days of sales, although they mostly come from the shows that were added yesterday (26 shows).

 

Day Movie Format Shows New Sales Total Sold True Capacity % Sold ATP Gross
T-8 Spider-Man PLF 39 99 7,123 8,518 83.62% $14.42 $102,678.06
    Standard 103 822 8,259 13,683 60.36% $10.98 $90,706.17
  Spider-Man Total   142 921 15,382 22,201 69.29% $12.57 $193,384.23
T-9 Spidey (Fri) PLF 56 386 7,313 12,379 59.08% $14.23 $104,044.95
    Standard 84 407 5,314 13,046 40.73% $10.59 $56,300.37
  Spidey (Fri) Total   140 793 12,627 25,425 49.66% $12.70 $160,345.32

 

Day Movie Mat Shows New Sales Total Sold True Capacity % Sold ATP Gross
T-8 Spider-Man N 106 738 11,778 16,282 72.34% $13.35 $157,246.40
    Y 36 183 3,604 5,919 60.89% $10.03 $36,137.83
  Spider-Man Total   142 921 15,382 22,201 69.29% $12.57 $193,384.23
T-9 Spidey (Fri) N 71 346 8,753 13,419 65.23% $13.65 $119,435.09
    Y 69 447 3,874 12,006 32.27% $10.56 $40,910.23
  Spidey (Fri) Total   140 793 12,627 25,425 49.66% $12.70 $160,345.32
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NYC Regal (Local) Spider-Man: NWH

 

12/08 - Wed - Noon
(Total)   2206/5069 = 34.52%
(Non RPX)  1408/ 4109 = 34.26%
(RPX)  798/960 = 83.125%

 

COMPS

(count before first show on Thur Preview Night)

Black Widow:  $58m

Eternals:  $40m

Venom 2: $84m (:lol:)

Shang-Chi: 38m
Joker:  $38m

 

More relevant comps  (Wed last count 9pm)

Endgame:  $27.7m (4,853/5,493 = 88.35%)

SW: TROS: $37.85m  (2331/4547  = 51.26%)

 

Endgame - 9 days out -  $36.11m

(4.16.19)  3,665/4,736  = 77.38% 

 

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After a year’s delay due to the pandemic, Steven Spielberg’s remake of the Broadway classic and 10x Oscar-winning 1961 movie, West Side Story, finally tunes up this weekend as the sole wide major studio theatrical release in 2,800 U.S./Canada theaters and offshore debuts in France, Germany, Brazil, Mexico, Russia and UK. All in, the global outlook is $22M-$31M, with $12M-$17M coming from domestic and $10M-$14M from abroad. The 20th Century Studios-Amblin production is being released by Disney.

 

While MGM/UAR’s House of Gucci provided a ray of hope for older films, particularly long-running ones eyeing awards, during the pandemic with $14.4M over three days and $22M over five, that boost had plenty to do with the availability of moviegoers over the Thanksgiving stretch. Any movie, even in pre-pandemic, opening in this pre-Christmas corridor is typically looking at the long game through the holidays and MLK weekend. There’s typically too many distractions given the holidays, but one of West Side Story‘s hurdles, which hopefully it can overcome in the long run, is the cautious adult audience, especially at a time when the Omicron variant is making news. On the plus side, Dr. Anthony Fauci said yesterday that the new strain is less severe than Delta.

 

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WSS, counted today at 10am EST for Friday, December 10:
 

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): still no showtimes
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24):
44 (12 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18):
28 (6 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 9 (3 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 13 (6 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16):
185 (9 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 232 (10 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 6 theaters: 511.

Up 26% since yesterday.
Comps (all counted for Friday): Cats (6.6M OW) had on Wednesday of its release week 225 in the same 6 theaters,
Respect (8.8M OW) had on Wednesday of its release week 97 sold tickets in the same 6 theaters

and In the Heights (11.5M OW) had on Thursday of its release week 773 sold tickets in the same 6 theaters. So WSS would need a 50% jump till tomorrow to reach the presales of In the Heights.
This is the third day in a row that WSS improved in the comps. OTOH the very good reviews didn't have much impact as it seems, it had a pretty normal jump till today.
As I said I don't have much hope that this movie will have big walk-ups but the presales are still (very) ok.
PS: A lot of shows were added till today. Yesterday it had in sum 25 and now it has 46.


National Champions had today only 6 sold tickets in now 5 of my theaters. Maybe the walk-ups will be better but this is worse than the number of Belfast (26 sold tickets) also on a Wednesday and that in 2 theaters. And the French Dispatch had 12 sold tickets already on a Monday in only one AMC (that in LA).

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