The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[john2000]

1 hour ago, Product Driven Legion said:

#technicallyAccelerationDefinitelyHighlyMeaningful

? what do you mean ? You were right by the way spideys current sales arent very bottomy, they are still pretty high though it must of course  accelerate again soon.

[filmlover]

Nightmare Alley is having early screenings at a handful of theaters next Wednesday.

[katnisscinnaplex]

22 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-1 Hr	Black Widow	Jacksonville	6	76	12,095	2,333	555	19.29%
		Phoenix	7	77	10,692	1,881	270	17.59%
		Raleigh	8	74	8,303	3,148	746	37.91%
	Black Widow Total		21	227	31,090	7,362	1,571	23.68%
T-1 Hr	Eternals	Jacksonville	6	72	10,311	1,811	526	17.56%
		Phoenix	7	59	8,999	1,848	320	20.54%
		Raleigh	8	37	4,098	1,713	380	41.80%
	Eternals Total		21	168	23,408	5,372	1,226	22.95%
T-1 Hr	Shang-Chi	Jacksonville	6	60	8,619	1,423	493	16.51%
		Phoenix	7	51	7,193	1,349	262	18.75%
		Raleigh	8	40	4,505	1,327	332	29.46%
	Shang-Chi Total		21	151	20,317	4,099	1,087	20.18%
T-9	Spider-Man	Jacksonville	7	154	22,299	5,959	160	26.72%
		Phoenix	6	129	18,854	8,080	199	42.86%
		Raleigh	8	76	8,925	5,387	117	60.36%
	Spider-Man Total		21	359	50,078	19,426	476	38.79%

 

Really leveled out - last three days have been 477, 480 and 476 in new sales.  

 

T-9 increase % comps

 

Spider - 2.51%

BW - 5.15%

SC - 13.62%

Eternals - 7.44%

Venom 2 - 6.98%

 

Total sales

 

Spider-Man - $259,782 (13.37 ATP)

 

Black Widow Final - $94,329 (12.81 ATP)

Eternals Final - $74,356 (13.84 ATP)

Shang-Chi Final - $54,954 (13.41 ATP)

 

ATP continues to decrease daily as standard and matinee sales outperform PLF

 

Splits

 

Movie	Mat	Sold	%	Sales	ATP
Spider-Man	N	16,956	87.29%	$232,839.22	13.73
	Y	2,470	12.71%	$26,943.62	10.91

 

 

Movie	Format	Sold	%	Sales	ATP
Spider-Man	PLF	7,235	37.24%	$116,978.78	16.17
	Standard	12,191	62.76%	$142,804.06	11.71

 

 

Movie	Chain	Sold	%	Sales	ATP
Spider-Man	AMC	11,738	60.42%	$152,002.40	12.95
	Cinemark	5,077	26.14%	$73,079.36	14.39
	CMX	24	0.12%	$359.76	14.99
	Regal	2,416	12.44%	$32,503.07	13.45
	Sun-Ray	171	0.88%	$1,838.25	10.75

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-1 Hr	Black Widow	Jacksonville	6	76	12,095	2,333	555	19.29%
		Phoenix	7	77	10,692	1,881	270	17.59%
		Raleigh	8	74	8,303	3,148	746	37.91%
	Black Widow Total		21	227	31,090	7,362	1,571	23.68%
T-1 Hr	Eternals	Jacksonville	6	72	10,311	1,811	526	17.56%
		Phoenix	7	59	8,999	1,848	320	20.54%
		Raleigh	8	37	4,098	1,713	380	41.80%
	Eternals Total		21	168	23,408	5,372	1,226	22.95%
T-1 Hr	Shang-Chi	Jacksonville	6	60	8,619	1,423	493	16.51%
		Phoenix	7	51	7,193	1,349	262	18.75%
		Raleigh	8	40	4,505	1,327	332	29.46%
	Shang-Chi Total		21	151	20,317	4,099	1,087	20.18%
T-8	Spider-Man	Jacksonville	7	157	22,875	6,170	211	26.97%
		Phoenix	7	156	20,620	8,389	309	40.68%
		Raleigh	8	90	10,497	5,529	142	52.67%
	Spider-Man Total		22	403	53,992	20,088	662	37.21%

 

Added 41 shows and nearly 4k seats since yesterday, including the final theater in my sample at 12 shows.  Not too surprising then that sales had a pretty good bump as more shows became available.  There's still plenty of room in those shows so maybe the pace will hold a little higher for a couple of days.

 

T-8 increase % comps

 

Spider - 3.41%

BW - 6.77%

SC - 11.37%

Eternals - 7.54%

Venom 2 - 9.44%

 

Total sales

 

Spider-Man - $267,930 (13.34 ATP)

 

Black Widow Final - $94,329 (12.81 ATP)

Eternals Final - $74,356 (13.84 ATP)

Shang-Chi Final - $54,954 (13.41 ATP)

 

Splits

 

Movie	Mat	Sold	%	Sales	ATP
Spider-Man	N	17,512	87.18%	$239,753.82	13.69
	Y	2,576	12.82%	$28,176.57	10.94

 

Movie	Format	Sold	%	Sales	ATP
Spider-Man	PLF	7,328	36.48%	$118,492.88	16.17
	Standard	12,760	63.52%	$149,437.51	11.71

 

Movie	Chain	Sold	%	Sales	ATP
Spider-Man	AMC	12,041	59.94%	$155,644.99	12.93
	Cinemark	5,208	25.93%	$74,890.28	14.38
	CMX	24	0.12%	$359.76	14.99
	Regal	2,528	12.58%	$33,960.91	13.43
	RoadHouse	107	0.53%	$1,139.45	10.65
	Sun-Ray	180	0.90%	$1,935.00	10.75

 

Showtimes

 

Since last check on Monday morning, Spider-Man has added over 1100 preview shows and is now at 29,032 in 2,989 theaters in my sample.  That includes 1,037 IMAX shows and 2,471 3D shows; 5,372 total PLF shows. Breakdown by chain:

 

A - 8,039 (585 TC)

C - 5,654 (311 TC)

R - 4,593 (440 TC)

 

Time	Shows	%
3:00	2,291	7.89%
3:01-3:59	2,408	8.29%
4:00-4:59	3,641	12.54%
5:00-5:59	2,424	8.35%
6:00-6:59	3,714	12.79%
7:00-7:59	4,748	16.35%
8:00-8:59	2,993	10.31%
9:00-9:59	2,509	8.64%
10:00-10:59	2,794	9.62%
11:00+	1,510	5.20%

Edited December 8, 2021 by katnisscinnaplex

[katnisscinnaplex]

16 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Nightmare Alley is having early screenings at a handful of theaters next Wednesday.

 

I'm seeing 583 already listed for Wednesday.  Trying to get a jump start on Spider-Man

[keysersoze123]

14 hours ago, Multiverse of XXR said:

I just checked and it’s at 53 shows for Thursday. I wonder if they added 11 more or your scraper is dropping 11 shows for some reason.

This morning

 

Empire - 5841/10685 118065.39 53 shows. 

 

New shows are all 2d shows mostly before 6PM or crazy late shows. Combined sales across 11 shows is 29 tickets. So that has not moved the needle that much for Empire. 

[keysersoze123]

NWH OD MTC1 - 413039/1143020 6318067.17 6167 shows. 

 

Friday to OD PS is at normal levels but this will be frontloaded wrt its previews for sure.

 

 

[charlie Jatinder]

One of the K gotta change the DP  

[charlie Jatinder]

1 minute ago, keysersoze123 said:

NWH OD MTC1 - 413039/1143020 6318067.17 6167 shows. 

 

Friday to OD PS is at normal levels but this will be frontloaded wrt its previews for sure.

 

 

The showcount seems low there. Gotta be more shows than this right?

[keysersoze123]

6 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-1 Hr	Black Widow	Jacksonville	6	76	12,095	2,333	555	19.29%
		Phoenix	7	77	10,692	1,881	270	17.59%
		Raleigh	8	74	8,303	3,148	746	37.91%
	Black Widow Total		21	227	31,090	7,362	1,571	23.68%
T-1 Hr	Eternals	Jacksonville	6	72	10,311	1,811	526	17.56%
		Phoenix	7	59	8,999	1,848	320	20.54%
		Raleigh	8	37	4,098	1,713	380	41.80%
	Eternals Total		21	168	23,408	5,372	1,226	22.95%
T-1 Hr	Shang-Chi	Jacksonville	6	60	8,619	1,423	493	16.51%
		Phoenix	7	51	7,193	1,349	262	18.75%
		Raleigh	8	40	4,505	1,327	332	29.46%
	Shang-Chi Total		21	151	20,317	4,099	1,087	20.18%
T-8	Spider-Man	Jacksonville	7	157	22,875	6,170	211	26.97%
		Phoenix	7	156	20,620	8,389	309	40.68%
		Raleigh	8	90	10,497	5,529	142	52.67%
	Spider-Man Total		22	403	53,992	20,088	662	37.21%

 

Added 41 shows and nearly 4k seats since yesterday, including the final theater in my sample at 12 shows.  Not too surprising then that sales had a pretty good bump as more shows became available.  There's still plenty of room in those shows so maybe the pace will hold a little higher for a couple of days.

 

T-8 increase % comps

 

Spider - 3.41%

BW - 6.77%

SC - 11.37%

Eternals - 7.54%

Venom 2 - 9.44%

 

Total sales

 

Spider-Man - $267,930 (13.34 ATP)

 

Black Widow Final - $94,329 (12.81 ATP)

Eternals Final - $74,356 (13.84 ATP)

Shang-Chi Final - $54,954 (13.41 ATP)

 

Splits

 

 

Movie	Mat	Sold	%	Sales	ATP
Spider-Man	N	17,512	87.18%	$239,753.82	13.69
	Y	2,576	12.82%	$28,176.57	10.94

 

 

Movie	Format	Sold	%	Sales	ATP
Spider-Man	PLF	7,328	36.48%	$118,492.88	16.17
	Standard	12,760	63.52%	$149,437.51	11.71

 

 

Movie	Chain	Sold	%	Sales	ATP
Spider-Man	AMC	12,041	59.94%	$155,644.99	12.93
	Cinemark	5,208	25.93%	$74,890.28	14.38
	CMX	24	0.12%	$359.76	14.99
	Regal	2,528	12.58%	$33,960.91	13.43
	RoadHouse	107	0.53%	$1,139.45	10.65
	Sun-Ray	180	0.90%	$1,935.00	10.75

 

Showtimes

 

Since last check on Monday morning, Spider-Man has added over 1100 preview shows and is now at 29,032 in 2,989 theaters in my sample.  That includes 1,037 IMAX shows and 2,471 3D shows; 5,372 total PLF shows. Breakdown by chain:

 

A: 8,039 (585 TC)

😄 5,654 (311 TC)

R: 4,593 (440 TC)

 

Time	Shows	%
3:00	2,291	7.89%
3:01-3:59	2,408	8.29%
4:00-4:59	3,641	12.54%
5:00-5:59	2,424	8.35%
6:00-6:59	3,714	12.79%
7:00-7:59	4,748	16.35%
8:00-8:59	2,993	10.31%
9:00-9:59	2,509	8.64%
10:00-10:59	2,794	9.62%
11:00+	1,510	5.20%

Can you check for Friday show count as well. 

[filmlover]

6 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

I'm seeing 583 already listed for Wednesday.  Trying to get a jump start on Spider-Man

They know it's going to get squeezed that Thursday due to Spidey demand taking over every theater cause it looks like it's not having Thursday previews. Ironic that The Matrix is the only movie opening within close proximity of the 800-pound gorilla that won't be doing early screenings to try and generate some buzz (in large part because it's going to be available to watch at home before the first shows even start in all likelihood).

Edited December 8, 2021 by filmlover

[katnisscinnaplex]

22 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-16	Matrix 4 (Wed)	Jacksonville	6	33	5,931	171	61	2.88%
		Phoenix	6	18	2,924	225	70	7.69%
		Raleigh	8	29	3,544	259	106	7.31%
	Matrix 4 Total		19	80	12,399	655	237	5.28%
T-2	West Side Story	Jacksonville	6	16	2,396	36	5	1.50%
		Phoenix	7	15	2,420	67	18	2.77%
		Raleigh	7	15	1,851	42	13	2.27%
	West Side Story Total		20	46	6,667	145	36	2.17%

 

Combining these into one post.  Shows are still up on Fandango so I'll continue to check.  

 

WSS comps

Evan Hansen - 1.33x (1.06m)

Respect - 2.04x (1.33m)

Gucci - .47x (614k)

Heights - .46x (458k)

 

Matrix comps

 

TSS - 2.81x (11.5m)

NTTD - 2.01x (10.45m)

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-1	West Side Story	Jacksonville	6	20	3,028	52	16	1.72%
		Phoenix	7	17	3,112	69	2	2.22%
		Raleigh	7	15	1,851	64	22	3.46%
	West Side Story Total		20	52	7,991	185	40	2.32%
T-15	Matrix 4 (Wed)	Jacksonville	6	33	5,931	231	60	3.89%
		Phoenix	6	18	2,924	271	46	9.27%
		Raleigh	8	28	3,453	331	72	9.59%
	Matrix 4 (Wed) Total		19	79	12,308	833	178	6.77%

 

WSS comps

Evan Hansen - 1.28x (1.02m)

Respect - 1.76x (1.145m)

Gucci - .51x (663k)

Heights - .43x (429k)

 

Matrix comps

 

TSS - 3.51x (14.4m)

NTTD - 2.35x (12.24m)

[keysersoze123]

22 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

The showcount seems low there. Gotta be more shows than this right?

This was what I was able to fetch yesterday morning. That is why I asked @katnisscinnaplex to confirm. This will go up as we go along. I look for shows with reserved seating at 595 theaters. Whatever comes up I pick it up. I did not get data for 32 shows but that is a noise compared to overall show count. 

Edited December 8, 2021 by keysersoze123

[katnisscinnaplex]

4 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Can you check for Friday show count as well. 

 

33,945 total, 6,701 PLF

 

A - 7,430 (587)

C - 6,426 (311)

R - 6,078 (440)

[charlie Jatinder]

6 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

This was what I was able to fetch yesterday. That is why I asked @katnisscinnaplex to confirm. This will go up as we go along. I look for shows with reserved seating at 595 theaters. Whatever comes up I pick it up. I did not get data for 32 shows but that is a noise compared to overall show count. 

I read Katniss post, that said 8K shows in MTC 1 for previews, I forget we don't get all of them. That is why I thought FRI must be way more than THU. Our gross numbers though are almost overall since we are taking adult ticket rates, and I guess that's fine.

 

BTW I know you are looking for shows at whole chain but how many of them are actually sending data is what really I mean to ask when I ask about theater count.

[keysersoze123]

14 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

I read Katniss post, that said 8K shows in MTC 1 for previews, I forget we don't get all of them. That is why I thought FRI must be way more than THU. Our gross numbers though are almost overall since we are taking adult ticket rates, and I guess that's fine.

 

BTW I know you are looking for shows at whole chain but how many of them are actually sending data is what really I mean to ask when I ask about theater count.

I got shows for 426 theaters for OD. Previews are there for 432. I think there was another big shows added yesterday evening that I missed. For previews I can see 7264 shows(added more than 600 shows yesterday). Unfortunately with this process taking for ever I cannot do a quick check :-( MTC1 used to return data under half hour even for this many shows. 

 

I manually checked empire and previews have 53 shows while OD have 51 shows. Plexes will add more screens for previews but have fewer screens for OD. 

Edited December 8, 2021 by keysersoze123

[keysersoze123]

43 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Showtimes

 

Since last check on Monday morning, Spider-Man has added over 1100 preview shows and is now at 29,032 in 2,989 theaters in my sample.  That includes 1,037 IMAX shows and 2,471 3D shows; 5,372 total PLF shows. Breakdown by chain:

 

A - 8,039 (585 TC)

C - 5,654 (311 TC)

R - 4,593 (440 TC)

 

27 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

33,945 total, 6,701 PLF

 

A - 7,430 (587)

C - 6,426 (311)

R - 6,078 (440)

 

So C and R have more shows while A have fewer shows for now. That could change early next week as they weed out older movies. 

[katnisscinnaplex]

On 12/5/2021 at 12:20 PM, katnisscinnaplex said:

Santikos Theaters tracking

 

Had some issues with Fandango yesterday and wasn't able to pull numbers.  New sales below are two days of sales.  I may wait until I see new shows being added before my next update.

 

 

Day	Movie	Format	Shows	New Sales*	Total Sold	True Capacity	% Sold	ATP	Gross
T-11	Spider-Man	PLF	38	60	7,024	8,388	83.74%	$14.43	$101,381.38
		Standard	78	206	7,437	10,917	68.12%	$10.96	$81,521.77
	Spider-Man Total		116	266	14,461	19,305	74.91%	$12.65	$182,903.15
T-12	Spidey (Fri)	PLF	56	287	6,927	12,379	55.96%	$14.29	$98,975.95
		Standard	84	296	4,907	13,046	37.61%	$10.62	$52,119.56
	Spidey (Fri) Total		140	583	11,834	25,425	46.54%	$12.77	$151,095.51

 

Matinee splits

 

 

Day	Movie	Mat	Shows	New Sales	Total Sold	True Capacity	% Sold	ATP	Gross
T-11	Spider-Man	N	85	137	11,040	14,045	78.60%	$13.45	$148,495.01
		Y	31	129	3,421	5,260	65.04%	$10.06	$34,408.14
	Spider-Man Total		116	266	14,461	19,305	74.91%	$12.65	$182,903.15
T-12	Spidey (Fri)	N	71	245	8,407	13,419	62.65%	$13.66	$114,823.23
		Y	69	338	3,427	12,006	28.54%	$10.58	$36,272.28
	Spidey (Fri) Total		140	583	11,834	25,425	46.54%	$12.77	$151,095.51

Santikos Theaters tracking

 

First update since Sunday morning, so new sales are really three days of sales, although they mostly come from the shows that were added yesterday (26 shows).

 

Day	Movie	Format	Shows	New Sales	Total Sold	True Capacity	% Sold	ATP	Gross
T-8	Spider-Man	PLF	39	99	7,123	8,518	83.62%	$14.42	$102,678.06
		Standard	103	822	8,259	13,683	60.36%	$10.98	$90,706.17
	Spider-Man Total		142	921	15,382	22,201	69.29%	$12.57	$193,384.23
T-9	Spidey (Fri)	PLF	56	386	7,313	12,379	59.08%	$14.23	$104,044.95
		Standard	84	407	5,314	13,046	40.73%	$10.59	$56,300.37
	Spidey (Fri) Total		140	793	12,627	25,425	49.66%	$12.70	$160,345.32

 

Day	Movie	Mat	Shows	New Sales	Total Sold	True Capacity	% Sold	ATP	Gross
T-8	Spider-Man	N	106	738	11,778	16,282	72.34%	$13.35	$157,246.40
		Y	36	183	3,604	5,919	60.89%	$10.03	$36,137.83
	Spider-Man Total		142	921	15,382	22,201	69.29%	$12.57	$193,384.23
T-9	Spidey (Fri)	N	71	346	8,753	13,419	65.23%	$13.65	$119,435.09
		Y	69	447	3,874	12,006	32.27%	$10.56	$40,910.23
	Spidey (Fri) Total		140	793	12,627	25,425	49.66%	$12.70	$160,345.32

[TalismanRing]

NYC Regal (Local) Spider-Man: NWH

 

12/08 - Wed - Noon
(Total)   2206/5069 = 34.52%
(Non RPX)  1408/ 4109 = 34.26%
(RPX)  798/960 = 83.125%

 

COMPS

(count before first show on Thur Preview Night)

Black Widow:  $58m

Eternals:  $40m

Venom 2: $84m ()

Shang-Chi: 38m
Joker:  $38m

 

More relevant comps  (Wed last count 9pm)

Endgame:  $27.7m (4,853/5,493 = 88.35%)

SW: TROS: $37.85m  (2331/4547  = 51.26%)

 

Endgame - 9 days out -  $36.11m

(4.16.19)  3,665/4,736  = 77.38% 

 

Edited December 8, 2021 by TalismanRing

[Eric Atreides]

https://deadline.com/2021/12/disney-hopes-for-long-holiday-dance-with-steven-spielbergs-west-side-story-global-start-could-reach-31m-box-office-preview-1234887032/

 

Quote

After a year’s delay due to the pandemic, Steven Spielberg’s remake of the Broadway classic and 10x Oscar-winning 1961 movie, West Side Story, finally tunes up this weekend as the sole wide major studio theatrical release in 2,800 U.S./Canada theaters and offshore debuts in France, Germany, Brazil, Mexico, Russia and UK. All in, the global outlook is $22M-$31M, with $12M-$17M coming from domestic and $10M-$14M from abroad. The 20th Century Studios-Amblin production is being released by Disney.

 

While MGM/UAR’s House of Gucci provided a ray of hope for older films, particularly long-running ones eyeing awards, during the pandemic with $14.4M over three days and $22M over five, that boost had plenty to do with the availability of moviegoers over the Thanksgiving stretch. Any movie, even in pre-pandemic, opening in this pre-Christmas corridor is typically looking at the long game through the holidays and MLK weekend. There’s typically too many distractions given the holidays, but one of West Side Story‘s hurdles, which hopefully it can overcome in the long run, is the cautious adult audience, especially at a time when the Omicron variant is making news. On the plus side, Dr. Anthony Fauci said yesterday that the new strain is less severe than Delta.

 

[el sid]

WSS, counted today at 10am EST for Friday, December 10:
 

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): still no showtimes
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 44 (12 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 28 (6 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 9 (3 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 13 (6 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 185 (9 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 232 (10 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 6 theaters: 511.

Up 26% since yesterday.
Comps (all counted for Friday): Cats (6.6M OW) had on Wednesday of its release week 225 in the same 6 theaters,
Respect (8.8M OW) had on Wednesday of its release week 97 sold tickets in the same 6 theaters

and In the Heights (11.5M OW) had on Thursday of its release week 773 sold tickets in the same 6 theaters. So WSS would need a 50% jump till tomorrow to reach the presales of In the Heights.
This is the third day in a row that WSS improved in the comps. OTOH the very good reviews didn't have much impact as it seems, it had a pretty normal jump till today.
As I said I don't have much hope that this movie will have big walk-ups but the presales are still (very) ok.
PS: A lot of shows were added till today. Yesterday it had in sum 25 and now it has 46.

National Champions had today only 6 sold tickets in now 5 of my theaters. Maybe the walk-ups will be better but this is worse than the number of Belfast (26 sold tickets) also on a Wednesday and that in 2 theaters. And the French Dispatch had 12 sold tickets already on a Monday in only one AMC (that in LA).

Edited December 8, 2021 by el sid