Wonder Woman 1984 | Dec 16 2020 OS | Dec 25 2020 US and on HBO MAX

[Alli]

7 minutes ago, captainwondyful said:

I loved the first 2/3s of the the Wonder Woman movie, but Patty is waaaay too much a Straight Woman Feminist to handle Carol. She’s probably do something silly like give her a boyfriend. Her Steve Trevor love is so 😒🙄🔪

you got a problem with steve? their love story is the heart of the movie

[LouisianaArkansasGeorgia]

1 hour ago, captainwondyful said:

I loved the first 2/3s of the the Wonder Woman movie, but Patty is waaaay too much a Straight Woman Feminist to handle Carol. She’s probably do something silly like give her a boyfriend. Her Steve Trevor love is so 😒🙄🔪

Good thing that Patty also gave Wonder Woman something that a billion dollars could not give Captain Marvel: a good film (93 % RT versus 78 % RT)....

 

 

 

 

Edited April 15, 2019 by LouisianaArkansasGeorgia

[BadAtGender]

42 minutes ago, captainwondyful said:

I loved the first 2/3s of the the Wonder Woman movie, but Patty is waaaay too much a Straight Woman Feminist to handle Carol. She’s probably do something silly like give her a boyfriend. Her Steve Trevor love is so 😒🙄🔪

 

Um, you do know she's done a movie about a queer woman, right? 

[AndyK]

1 hour ago, captainwondyful said:

I loved the first 2/3s of the the Wonder Woman movie, but Patty is waaaay too much a Straight Woman Feminist to handle Carol. She’s probably do something silly like give her a boyfriend. Her Steve Trevor love is so 😒🙄🔪

Yeah, women having boyfriends would never happen in real life.

[Cap]

1 hour ago, Alli said:

you got a problem with steve? their love story is the heart of the movie

Yes. That is the problem with Steve. Diana is canon queer and Steve should be nothing more than a pretty face to look at. If that. The fact he is coming back is so 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄. The only time he actually worked was in the Perez run. 

 

1 hour ago, ElsaRoc said:

 

Um, you do know she's done a movie about a queer woman, right? 

That isn’t exactly the first thing you think when you think about for that movie, but sure. 

[Dbui8743]

Diana is canon queer, since when?

 

I guess the worst crime Patty did was to give Diana too much heart, as opposed to simply looking bewildered most of the time, and giving smirk when she can.

Edited April 15, 2019 by Dbui8743

[WittyUsername]

2 hours ago, captainwondyful said:

Yes. That is the problem with Steve. Diana is canon queer and Steve should be nothing more than a pretty face to look at. If that. The fact he is coming back is so 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄. The only time he actually worked was in the Perez run. 

 

That isn’t exactly the first thing you think when you think about for that movie, but sure. 

If you’re referring to Greg Rucka’s comments, the movie had already finished filming by that point. 

[BadAtGender]

3 hours ago, Dbui8743 said:

Diana is canon queer, since when?

 

I'm not sure if it's been canonically stated, but I don't think it has for the mainline DCU. Voice of God confirmation from Gail Simone (and others) that they see her as queer, but I'd have to check Greg Rucka's run again to see if there's anything that states it outright. 

 

Some elseworlds or other media might have it exist outright, but on the whole, the big two tend to avoid anything slightly controversial like that with their main characters. Probably mostly because doing so could affect the potential to release movies in some countries. So you'll often get supporting characters and even more minor heroes who are queer, but not the major players, except in subtext. And that subtext will usually be sanded down in major media releases.

[Dbui8743]

Yeah, she may have been subtly portrayed as such, or not against the idea but her main love interests have been guys, steve is one of them. Even flashpoint has put her together with Aquaman.

 

So to say she is more queer than straight is just not true.

[cdsacken]

11 hours ago, LouisianaArkansasGeorgia said:

Good thing that Patty also gave Wonder Woman something that a billion dollars could not give Captain Marvel: a good film (93 % RT versus 78 % RT)....

 

 

 

 

This is a ridiculous comment. Both are good if not great entirely different films. WW is deeper and more refined but sad and depressing. CM is raw and needs more depth but is light-hearted and uplifting.

 

Patty Jenkins would have never been able to do WW if she stuck with Thor 2. Her heart was set on a Romeo and Juliet plot (Steve's character makes so much sense now) that would have ruined the next film and several tied into the universe itself. Thankfully she left and took WW to a level probably no one else could have. She will continue to develop WW in the next film reaching new heights for the franchise.

 

That said I understand why you said it. As for the idea that Wonder Woman is somehow ruined because she's not a lesbian, that is most ridiculous comment in this entire thread. Outrageous and just crazy, things do not need to follow the comics directly. Come on now.

Edited April 16, 2019 by cdsacken

[Claire of Themyscira]

Queer? If you're using it as a blanket term, sure, but Diana's really likely bi, and Gal has touched on that. She's wanted a girlfriend for her.

[JGAR4LIFE]

Leave Diana alone. If you want a queer superhero, go make one.

[TheDarkKnightOfSteel]

Diana’s greatest love has always been a man.She is not queer.More like bi because some writers have implied it but never had the balls to depict it on paper.So as it stands right now don’t put labels...

[MrGlass2]

“When it comes to procreation, men are essential, but for pleasure, not necessary.”

 

- Diana, Wonder Woman movie

[ChipDerby]

Holy hell. Y'all know Diana grew up on an island of only women, right? What do you think they do in their downtime?

 

Also, having a male love interest doesn't negate that, and doesn't make the movie "anti-feminist".

[HouseOfTheSun]

Can’t even wait until Captain Marvel is out of theaters to target Wonder Woman next...yeesh give it a fucking break. Female superheroes are here to stay...wherever they land on the sexuality spectrum 

[HouseOfTheSun]

On 4/15/2019 at 3:36 PM, LouisianaArkansasGeorgia said:

Good thing that Patty also gave Wonder Woman something that a billion dollars could not give Captain Marvel: a good film (93 % RT versus 78 % RT)....

 

 

 

 

So it’s settled then? Black panther is better than the dark knight??

[robertman2]

7 minutes ago, HouseOfTheSun said:

So it’s settled then? Black panther is better than the dark knight??

Absolutely 

[Ms Lady Hawk]

Diana is every woman. You can see in her what you want. I have a feeling that WW84 is going to be massive. People fell in love with Diana and Steve’s story. The WW television series also showed Steve as her love interest. Moreover, Diana was the youngest Amazon on the island. She could have presumably been involved with a much older Amazon or maybe she wasn’t. Even if she were, women would have been all she was exposed to. Once she arrived in the “world of men”, she apparently was attracted to a man, who became the love of her life.. There were no relationships with women, even as shown in JL. Therefore, maybe she discovered her sexuality and prefers being a straight woman.

[cdsacken]

3 hours ago, MrGlass2 said:

“When it comes to procreation, men are essential, but for pleasure, not necessary.”

 

- Diana, Wonder Woman movie

Based on academic reading with zero interactions with men. Don't be silly.

 

If she's Bisexual based on her life experiences it would make sense. If she's not because of Steve that should get fine too.

Edited April 19, 2019 by cdsacken